(15 May 2016, 10:30 am)Tom wrote I think you could be right Michael because if 4974 isn't being repainted there wouldn't be enough for the 17 anyway as I'm pretty sure the PVR is 7 for the 17.
Though the lighter red ones could be for the 17.
A return of the Doxford Clipper brand
I'm not sure on the PVR of the 17, however nothing is confirmed yet of where they will go... i do think some will end up Percy Main to replace the Duel Door versions, same as Riverside.