(03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am)Unber43 wrote Dalton Park cancellations shows the failure of what GNE has become.Or is it not partly because due to the amount of journey cancellations there has been, people's confidence in the service was so low that they didn't even bother trying to use it?
"low passenger number" thats because no one knows IT EXISTED.
(03 Aug 2022, 4:57 pm)big mac wrote Or is it not partly because due to the amount of journey cancellations there has been, people's confidence in the service was so low that they didn't even bother trying to use it?And the times for it was awful, 10 mins before the X10, it should have been 20-30 mins after, the last one from Newcastle was 16:34.
(03 Aug 2022, 5:14 pm)DeltaMan wrote I'm amazed if the traffic commissioner gave the nod to the X11 being cancelled
(03 Aug 2022, 4:38 pm)Malarkey wrote I fully understand why they've done it in order to free up 1 driver throughout the week but I can't help think that they will take quite a hit on potential revenue through not operating the service as advertised throughout the summer.
(03 Aug 2022, 5:19 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I don't really see why they would have an issue tbh (other than the very short notice), there isn't really any loss of service with the withdrawal of that route given that it's just duplicating the X10 then the X93/4
(03 Aug 2022, 5:20 pm)Dan wrote It saves two drivers given the length of the shift and the fact it’s on EU.Deptford definitely needs it! However I doubt they'll make a massive difference
That’s ten extra local bus shifts covered in Sunderland, every week, without overtime, to cover high sickness rates and backdated holidays.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who declared the X11 as a waste of resource and a luxury are the same people who are complaining about its withdrawal.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who called for reductions to be made (like Arriva and Stagecoach) are the same people who are complaining about reductions being made.
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(03 Aug 2022, 5:21 pm)Rob44 wrote its not even a proper rout is it? You cant use your concessions bus pass on there, which i noticed on facebook was one of the first questions asked re the x10 and the arriva service. so now concessionary pass holders can get to the sea side for free, but just have to change at the boro!
(03 Aug 2022, 5:19 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I don't really see why they would have an issue tbh (other than the very short notice), there isn't really any loss of service with the withdrawal of that route given that it's just duplicating the X10 then the X93/4
(03 Aug 2022, 5:24 pm)Dan wrote I’d be very surprised if local authorities did not provide their support for the withdrawal of a seasonal service to allow the saved driver resources to cover journeys on local bus services which would otherwise not run.
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(03 Aug 2022, 2:52 pm)BusLoverMum wrote Well there were plenty of comment here suggesting that the x11 was the wrong service to prioritise with current staffing issues.
There are other seasides that are easier to get to.
(03 Aug 2022, 4:15 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote It does seem a daft time to do it in what would presumably be the peak demand however to be fair to GNE, how many people are realistically going to be "relying" on it as compared to those relying on X10 etc for day to day commuting. Obviously if there was unlimited resource this would be a differnt issue but it looks like prioritisation on a 'least bad option' basis to me. There were plenty on here commenting that the X11 shouldn't be running and focus on running core network so does seem a bit like whatever they do, they can't get a break. Also, it's not like there is no alternative and GNE have flagged this, despite it being a local competitor's route, and provided the link to further details. While I doubt the marginal driver resource released with make a notable difference to the current situation, this is a rare occasion where I feel the criticism of GNE is somewhat unfair.
(03 Aug 2022, 11:13 am)Ambassador wrote Why on earth would they retroactively update a press release dated 3 months ago with the new date?Because if you Google this service, you may land on what you are calling a press release.
The marketing and comms team are just bizarre
(03 Aug 2022, 5:20 pm)Dan wrote It saves two drivers given the length of the shift and the fact it’s on EU.I think what people have issue with is the timing, because they're at such short notice (4 days for the X1, 5 for the X11).
That’s ten extra local bus shifts covered in Sunderland, every week, without overtime, to cover high sickness rates and backdated holidays.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who declared the X11 as a waste of resource and a luxury are the same people who are complaining about its withdrawal.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who called for reductions to be made (like Arriva and Stagecoach) are the same people who are complaining about reductions being made.
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(03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am)Drifter60 wrote Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation.
https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11
A good move in my opinion, operating special seaside trips when normal services are cancelled left, right and centre isn’t great for those who rely on buses just to get home at night. And the X1 every 15 minutes makes sense as at least it’s now exactly every 30 minutes to Peterlee.
(03 Aug 2022, 5:20 pm)Dan wrote It saves two drivers given the length of the shift and the fact it’s on EU.
That’s ten extra local bus shifts covered in Sunderland, every week, without overtime, to cover high sickness rates and backdated holidays.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who declared the X11 as a waste of resource and a luxury are the same people who are complaining about its withdrawal.
It’s hilarious that the people on this forum who called for reductions to be made (like Arriva and Stagecoach) are the same people who are complaining about reductions being made.
(04 Aug 2022, 5:33 am)HarryCowans4041 wrote I cannot believe that someone in a senior commercial position at GNE feels comfortable defending these changes.
Yes the industry is facing unprecedented challenges, but the way GNE are going about their business, making snap and unpredictable decisions seemingly on the hoof, is no way to run a bus company.
We are seeing several of the soon-to-be-former MD’s vanity projects collapsing like a pack of cards, and it’s the company’s poor customers who have to pick up the pieces.
(04 Aug 2022, 5:33 am)HarryCowans4041 wrote I cannot believe that someone in a senior commercial position at GNE feels comfortable defending these changes.We'll soon discover if the MD is the main problem (and no doubt he's a part of it) or the existing Team in place who just don't seem to have the skills to innovate and adapt to change aside panicked cuts and stubborness over adapting to timetables.
Yes the industry is facing unprecedented challenges, but the way GNE are going about their business, making snap and unpredictable decisions seemingly on the hoof, is no way to run a bus company.
We are seeing several of the soon-to-be-former MD’s vanity projects collapsing like a pack of cards, and it’s the company’s poor customers who have to pick up the pieces.
(04 Aug 2022, 8:02 am)Ambassador wrote We'll soon discover if the MD is the main problem (and no doubt he's a part of it) or the existing Team in place who just don't seem to have the skills to innovate and adapt to change aside panicked cuts and stubborness over adapting to timetables.I've said it before and will say it again.
Drivers and Engineering aside, I don't have confidence there's the talent there (or at least talent that is being allowed to have an input)
(04 Aug 2022, 11:24 am)col87 wrote There’s one clear fact which no one seems to have picked up on. Going off this forum Go North East struggling in the spring with driver shortages so why even waste a driver doing the X11 in the first place if they were having issues.
This is just typical of Go North East though start a service don’t promote properly then either cut it back or get rid completely. Over the last 5-6 years.
X5 / X6 within a year X6 axed from Hartlepool. X5 renumbered 55 messed with quite a bit then axed from Hartlepool after 2 years completely giving up despite go north east serving the town in some way going back to the 1930s.
Then constant changing of brands and buses and moved about meaning constant repaints. There is no stability at go north east starting using and getting used to one service within a few weeks it’s either going to be axed or messed about with.