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idiot



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03 Aug 2022, 9:10 am #1
Moderators Merged thread for Go North East: Minor Service Changes August 2022
Source: https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11


X1 down to 15 mins and X11 cancelled from Sunday.
idiot
03 Aug 2022, 9:10 am #1

Moderators Merged thread for Go North East: Minor Service Changes August 2022
Source: https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11


X1 down to 15 mins and X11 cancelled from Sunday.

Unber43



3,556
03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am #2
X-lines X1 from Saturday 6 August

The service will be revised to run up to every 15 minutes.
All four buses per hour will serve Easington Lane, with two per hour extending to Peterlee.
Due to low demand, no journeys will serve Dalton Park.

Seasider X11
Sunday 7 August will be the last day our service to Whitby and Scarborough runs.
Those wanting a day out at the North Yorkshire coast after 7 August can do so by catching our X10 service to Middlesbrough and then the Arriva X93/X94 to Whitby or Scarborough.

- This is whats wrong with this company, they extend the X1 to Dalton Park which the only advertisement was on the buses, they don't advertise whenever I've visited Dalton Park there is always loads of people saying "whats the X1" and it shows how much this company cares, it doesn't help the timing comes 15 mins before X10 which is just great business, what a disgrace. Low Passenger Numbers, thats because no one knows it runs!!. It doesn't help the last service to serve Dalton Park leaves at 16:32, who wants to leave Newcastle at that time, it was destined to failure, due to the failure at the top.

But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.
Unber43
03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am #2

X-lines X1 from Saturday 6 August

The service will be revised to run up to every 15 minutes.
All four buses per hour will serve Easington Lane, with two per hour extending to Peterlee.
Due to low demand, no journeys will serve Dalton Park.

Seasider X11
Sunday 7 August will be the last day our service to Whitby and Scarborough runs.
Those wanting a day out at the North Yorkshire coast after 7 August can do so by catching our X10 service to Middlesbrough and then the Arriva X93/X94 to Whitby or Scarborough.

- This is whats wrong with this company, they extend the X1 to Dalton Park which the only advertisement was on the buses, they don't advertise whenever I've visited Dalton Park there is always loads of people saying "whats the X1" and it shows how much this company cares, it doesn't help the timing comes 15 mins before X10 which is just great business, what a disgrace. Low Passenger Numbers, thats because no one knows it runs!!. It doesn't help the last service to serve Dalton Park leaves at 16:32, who wants to leave Newcastle at that time, it was destined to failure, due to the failure at the top.

But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.

Dan

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18,120
03 Aug 2022, 9:19 am #3
(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.

Only if the drivers volunteer to go to another depot.


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Dan
03 Aug 2022, 9:19 am #3

(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.

Only if the drivers volunteer to go to another depot.


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03 Aug 2022, 9:21 am #4
(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 Seasider X11
Sunday 7 August will be the last day our service to Whitby and Scarborough runs.
Those wanting a day out at the North Yorkshire coast after 7 August can do so by catching our X10 service to Middlesbrough and then the Arriva X93/X94 to Whitby or Scarborough.

Ah yes, cancelling a seasonal service in the height of the summer holidays, such a great business idea!

Unless people didn't bother going because they realised the seaside is the same down there as it is up here so it's not worth paying extra!
streetdeckfan
03 Aug 2022, 9:21 am #4

(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 Seasider X11
Sunday 7 August will be the last day our service to Whitby and Scarborough runs.
Those wanting a day out at the North Yorkshire coast after 7 August can do so by catching our X10 service to Middlesbrough and then the Arriva X93/X94 to Whitby or Scarborough.

Ah yes, cancelling a seasonal service in the height of the summer holidays, such a great business idea!

Unless people didn't bother going because they realised the seaside is the same down there as it is up here so it's not worth paying extra!

Drifter60



551
03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am #5
Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11

A good move in my opinion, operating special seaside trips when normal services are cancelled left, right and centre isn’t great for those who rely on buses just to get home at night. And the X1 every 15 minutes makes sense as at least it’s now exactly every 30 minutes to Peterlee.
Drifter60
03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am #5

Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11

A good move in my opinion, operating special seaside trips when normal services are cancelled left, right and centre isn’t great for those who rely on buses just to get home at night. And the X1 every 15 minutes makes sense as at least it’s now exactly every 30 minutes to Peterlee.

Unber43



3,556
03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am #6
(03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am)Drifter60 Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11
Dalton Park cancellations shows the failure of what GNE has become. 

"low passenger number" thats because no one knows IT EXISTED.
Unber43
03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am #6

(03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am)Drifter60 Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11
Dalton Park cancellations shows the failure of what GNE has become. 

"low passenger number" thats because no one knows IT EXISTED.

03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am #7
(03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am)Drifter60 Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11

A good move in my opinion, operating special seaside trips when normal services are cancelled left, right and centre isn’t great for those who rely on buses just to get home at night. And the X1 every 15 minutes makes sense as at least it’s now exactly every 30 minutes to Peterlee.

To be fair, the X11 was due to end on Sunday anyway, but it just seems stupid to me that they wouldn't have it running through the holidays!

(03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am)Unber43 Dalton Park cancellations shows the failure of what GNE has become. 

"low passenger number" thats because no one knows IT EXISTED.

Or, more realistically, nobody wants to go to Dalton Park because it's overrated with very few shops, and overpriced ones at that.
Edited 03 Aug 2022, 9:32 am by streetdeckfan.
streetdeckfan
03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am #7

(03 Aug 2022, 9:22 am)Drifter60 Changes to the X1 and X11 from Saturday/Monday. X1 revised to every 15 minutes, Dalton Park link binned - Peterlee every 30 mins. X11 withdrawn after Sunday’s operation. 

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/changes-x-...asider-x11

A good move in my opinion, operating special seaside trips when normal services are cancelled left, right and centre isn’t great for those who rely on buses just to get home at night. And the X1 every 15 minutes makes sense as at least it’s now exactly every 30 minutes to Peterlee.

To be fair, the X11 was due to end on Sunday anyway, but it just seems stupid to me that they wouldn't have it running through the holidays!

(03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am)Unber43 Dalton Park cancellations shows the failure of what GNE has become. 

"low passenger number" thats because no one knows IT EXISTED.

Or, more realistically, nobody wants to go to Dalton Park because it's overrated with very few shops, and overpriced ones at that.

cbma06



2,669
03 Aug 2022, 9:32 am #8
Should of cancelled the x1 to Dalton park ages ago due to short staffed and advertise the 65 for connections between Hetton interchange and Dalton Park on daytime freq of every 30 minutes.

With the x11 withdrawn will free up at least 1 driver who can do multiple trips on a service bus.


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cbma06
03 Aug 2022, 9:32 am #8

Should of cancelled the x1 to Dalton park ages ago due to short staffed and advertise the 65 for connections between Hetton interchange and Dalton Park on daytime freq of every 30 minutes.

With the x11 withdrawn will free up at least 1 driver who can do multiple trips on a service bus.


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Jack Gill



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03 Aug 2022, 9:34 am #9
Are the X1 changes temporary again, as from what I saw last time it was every 15 minutes buses were full a lot of the time. just my experience though.
Jack Gill
03 Aug 2022, 9:34 am #9

Are the X1 changes temporary again, as from what I saw last time it was every 15 minutes buses were full a lot of the time. just my experience though.

03 Aug 2022, 9:39 am #10
(03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am)streetdeckfan To be fair, the X11 was due to end on Sunday anyway, but it just seems stupid to me that they wouldn't have it running through the holidays!

That isn't what their press release said - https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...rns-448254

(03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am)Go North East It will run on weekends, bank holidays and school holidays between 28 May and 4 September.
omnicity4659
03 Aug 2022, 9:39 am #10

(03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am)streetdeckfan To be fair, the X11 was due to end on Sunday anyway, but it just seems stupid to me that they wouldn't have it running through the holidays!

That isn't what their press release said - https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...rns-448254

(03 Aug 2022, 9:30 am)Go North East It will run on weekends, bank holidays and school holidays between 28 May and 4 September.

03 Aug 2022, 9:41 am #11
(03 Aug 2022, 9:39 am)omnicity4659 That isn't what their press release said - https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...rns-448254

Ah, so they've updated the website news page, but not the newsroom page


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...gh-returns
streetdeckfan
03 Aug 2022, 9:41 am #11

(03 Aug 2022, 9:39 am)omnicity4659 That isn't what their press release said - https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...rns-448254

Ah, so they've updated the website news page, but not the newsroom page


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...gh-returns

03 Aug 2022, 9:43 am #12
(03 Aug 2022, 9:35 am)omnicity4659 If they're doing it to redeploy the driver to local routes it won't make the slightest difference with staff still leaving en masse because they're being treated like dogshit.

I'm probably leaning more towards lower than expected passenger numbers since I'd imagine they'd make considerably more money with that driver on the X11 than they would having them drive a normal service.

Has anyone been on the X11 recently, or seen the number of passengers?
streetdeckfan
03 Aug 2022, 9:43 am #12

(03 Aug 2022, 9:35 am)omnicity4659 If they're doing it to redeploy the driver to local routes it won't make the slightest difference with staff still leaving en masse because they're being treated like dogshit.

I'm probably leaning more towards lower than expected passenger numbers since I'd imagine they'd make considerably more money with that driver on the X11 than they would having them drive a normal service.

Has anyone been on the X11 recently, or seen the number of passengers?

Adrian



9,584
03 Aug 2022, 9:52 am #13
Cancelling a service with a couple days notice is disgraceful. There may be low demand, but there'll still be some people relying on it, who barely have time to blink to find an alternative.

Of course, the comms could have helped out here, and advised people they can change at Hetton for the 65...

With the X1 timetable change overall, again its leisure customers that are being punished; the ones supposedly the target of modal switch to the bus, instead of taking their car into town and adding to congestion. That's before you add Saturday events and football to the chaos.

More firefighting.

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Adrian
03 Aug 2022, 9:52 am #13

Cancelling a service with a couple days notice is disgraceful. There may be low demand, but there'll still be some people relying on it, who barely have time to blink to find an alternative.

Of course, the comms could have helped out here, and advised people they can change at Hetton for the 65...

With the X1 timetable change overall, again its leisure customers that are being punished; the ones supposedly the target of modal switch to the bus, instead of taking their car into town and adding to congestion. That's before you add Saturday events and football to the chaos.

More firefighting.

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Storx



4,598
03 Aug 2022, 10:24 am #14
(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.

Can't see any driver in the Unite union going anywhere near Washington because of the Chester Le Street depot strike since the 25, 28 and 71 moved there so your enabling the depot closure.

It's why both of these have been done imo, X11 driver's bailing out the mess at CLS and Washington being seriously short of drivers due to lack of interest in helping out.
Storx
03 Aug 2022, 10:24 am #14

(03 Aug 2022, 9:16 am)Unber43 But GNE would be overstaffed so there would be plenty of staff moved to be able to cover washington service.

Can't see any driver in the Unite union going anywhere near Washington because of the Chester Le Street depot strike since the 25, 28 and 71 moved there so your enabling the depot closure.

It's why both of these have been done imo, X11 driver's bailing out the mess at CLS and Washington being seriously short of drivers due to lack of interest in helping out.

Unber43



3,556
03 Aug 2022, 10:36 am #15
(03 Aug 2022, 10:24 am)Storx Can't see any driver in the Unite union going anywhere near Washington because of the Chester Le Street depot strike since the 25, 28 and 71 moved there so your enabling the depot closure.

It's why both of these have been done imo, X11 driver's bailing out the mess at CLS and Washington being seriously short of drivers due to lack of interest in helping out.
X11 runs from Deptford
Unber43
03 Aug 2022, 10:36 am #15

(03 Aug 2022, 10:24 am)Storx Can't see any driver in the Unite union going anywhere near Washington because of the Chester Le Street depot strike since the 25, 28 and 71 moved there so your enabling the depot closure.

It's why both of these have been done imo, X11 driver's bailing out the mess at CLS and Washington being seriously short of drivers due to lack of interest in helping out.
X11 runs from Deptford

Storx



4,598
03 Aug 2022, 10:39 am #16
(03 Aug 2022, 10:36 am)Unber43 X11 runs from Deptford

I know but those drivers (depending on their union status) could go bail out CLS. 1 driver could potentially be 5% of the drivers there if it ends up going pear shaped.
Storx
03 Aug 2022, 10:39 am #16

(03 Aug 2022, 10:36 am)Unber43 X11 runs from Deptford

I know but those drivers (depending on their union status) could go bail out CLS. 1 driver could potentially be 5% of the drivers there if it ends up going pear shaped.

Ambassador



1,859
03 Aug 2022, 11:05 am #17
Things most be utterly desperate if they are axing a leisure service for the resource of 1 driver.

At what point does the Commercial Team head come out the sand and deploy emergency timetables?

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
03 Aug 2022, 11:05 am #17

Things most be utterly desperate if they are axing a leisure service for the resource of 1 driver.

At what point does the Commercial Team head come out the sand and deploy emergency timetables?


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Andreos1



14,228
03 Aug 2022, 11:09 am #18
(03 Aug 2022, 11:05 am)Ambassador Things most be utterly desperate if they are axing a leisure service for the resource of 1 driver.
Was thinking the same to be honest.
And the runs to Whitby being apparently popular and I assume money making. 

How many runs per day, will it save by having that 1 driver resource shifted?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
03 Aug 2022, 11:09 am #18

(03 Aug 2022, 11:05 am)Ambassador Things most be utterly desperate if they are axing a leisure service for the resource of 1 driver.
Was thinking the same to be honest.
And the runs to Whitby being apparently popular and I assume money making. 

How many runs per day, will it save by having that 1 driver resource shifted?


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Ambassador



1,859
03 Aug 2022, 11:13 am #19
(03 Aug 2022, 9:41 am)streetdeckfan Ah, so they've updated the website news page, but not the newsroom page


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...gh-returns
Why on earth would they retroactively update a press release dated 3 months ago with the new date?

The marketing and comms team are just bizarre

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
03 Aug 2022, 11:13 am #19

(03 Aug 2022, 9:41 am)streetdeckfan Ah, so they've updated the website news page, but not the newsroom page


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/go-north-e...gh-returns
Why on earth would they retroactively update a press release dated 3 months ago with the new date?

The marketing and comms team are just bizarre


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

03 Aug 2022, 11:21 am #20
(03 Aug 2022, 11:13 am)Ambassador Why on earth would they retroactively update a press release dated 3 months ago with the new date?

The marketing and comms team are just bizarre

So gullible people like me will think that was always the plan and they haven't just changed it!
streetdeckfan
03 Aug 2022, 11:21 am #20

(03 Aug 2022, 11:13 am)Ambassador Why on earth would they retroactively update a press release dated 3 months ago with the new date?

The marketing and comms team are just bizarre

So gullible people like me will think that was always the plan and they haven't just changed it!

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