(27 Nov 2016, 8:54 am)Andreos1 wrote Without the radio, it wont be out. I am dying to know how drivers/control communicate with each other adequately, to pull it out of service on a daily basis. I would have thought whatever method used then (whether its smoke signals, morse code or mobile phone) would be suitable on a night too.

Maybe the radio is linked somehow to the panic alarm?

(28 Nov 2016, 1:49 pm)Chris wrote Didn't some Scanias on the Green Arrow receive upgrades to make them Euro 5 equivalent?  Government funding which came via Gateshead Council IIRC.  Maybe this will have some bearing on where they end up?

I believe they did, but it still means that there are 15 yr old buses on front line services.

(28 Nov 2016, 1:58 pm)a718abb wrote I believe they did, but it still means that there are 15 yr old buses on front lone services.

True.  

I was thinking more along the lines of payback time vs the investment (and I can't remember who much the funding was); and if Gateshead Council bid for the funding to reduce air pollution, maybe there is some condition to the funding that the vehicles in question have to stay operating within Gateshead.

I suppose Citaros are Euro 5 if they were to become available.

(28 Nov 2016, 1:49 pm)Chris wrote Didn't some Scanias on the Green Arrow receive upgrades to make them Euro 5 equivalent?  Government funding which came via Gateshead Council IIRC.  Maybe this will have some bearing on where they end up?

Deptford had similar, funded by DCC for the 20 and X35. It was before their PVR's were increased, so I can't remember which were given the treatment. I am sure some digging would give the result and following subsequent cascades, give an idea if there were any T&C's which applied in that case.

http://northeastbuses.co.uk/search.php?q=eminox&submit.x=10&submit.y=8

Just did a quick search for 'Eminox' and found this if anyone wants to do any digging.

(28 Nov 2016, 2:19 pm)Andreos1 wrote http://northeastbuses.co.uk/search.php?q=eminox&submit.x=10&submit.y=8

Just did a quick search for 'Eminox' and found this if anyone wants to do any digging.

It'll be all the Scanias that are listed as Euro 5 on the fleet list which will have had that particular Eminox work done. Physically, it's anything that has the small extra grill next to the engine/radiator grill on the N/S. Think 4949 is the exception to this as it received a brand new Euro 5 engine after its fire.

Some of the other more elderly ones have been up'd to just to Euro 4 in the past, but that will just be the simpler mod/traps GNE have done on their terms without funding.

is there any cascades coming to Percy main depot replace the remaining renowns

(28 Nov 2016, 2:53 pm)Buses98 wrote is there any cascades coming to Percy main depot replace the remaining renowns

Think it's 4961-4 to Percy Main once the Mercs come off the Wear Tees.

(28 Nov 2016, 3:09 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Think it's 4961-4 to Percy Main once the Mercs come off the Wear Tees.

thanks I was wondering

i heard half the mercs would go on the the 12s and the rest go to chest le street on the 28

(28 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm)jack wrote i heard half the mercs would go on the the 12s and the rest go to chest le street on the 28

There's only 4 Wear tee Xprees Citaro's.

(28 Nov 2016, 6:11 pm)Michael wrote There's only 4 Wear tee Xprees Citaro's.

He's on about blaydon racers

(28 Nov 2016, 6:19 pm)Ryan99 wrote He's on about blaydon racers

Ah he didn't say.

Which depot operates the 11 service on an Evening and Sundays between Metro Centre and Lobley Hill - Is this Riverside?

During these times the route looks split to only run Metro Centre to Lobley Hill and also Whitley Bay to Wallsend Metro, leaving the middle section between Wallsend and Lobley Hill without service.

If Riverside do operate this part of the route at an evening or on a Sunday, do they have a branded vehicle or is it allocated a corporate livery vehicle?

(28 Nov 2016, 6:48 pm)thetravelman wrote Which depot operates the 11 service on an Evening and Sundays between Metro Centre and Lobley Hill - Is this Riverside?

During these times the route looks split to only run Metro Centre to Lobley Hill and also Whitley Bay to Wallsend Metro, leaving the middle section between Wallsend and Lobley Hill without service.

If Riverside do operate this part of the route at an evening or on a Sunday, do they have a branded vehicle or is it allocated a corporate livery vehicle?

Usually a Green Arrow on a Sunday but not sure about evenings.

(28 Nov 2016, 6:48 pm)thetravelman wrote Which depot operates the 11 service on an Evening and Sundays between Metro Centre and Lobley Hill - Is this Riverside?

During these times the route looks split to only run Metro Centre to Lobley Hill and also Whitley Bay to Wallsend Metro, leaving the middle section between Wallsend and Lobley Hill without service.

If Riverside do operate this part of the route at an evening or on a Sunday, do they have a branded vehicle or is it allocated a corporate livery vehicle?

(28 Nov 2016, 6:49 pm)Tom wrote Usually a Green Arrow on a Sunday but not sure about evenings.

Thanks!

(28 Nov 2016, 2:35 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote It'll be all the Scanias that are listed as Euro 5 on the fleet list which will have had that particular Eminox work done. Physically, it's anything that has the small extra grill next to the engine/radiator grill on the N/S. Think 4949 is the exception to this as it received a brand new Euro 5 engine after its fire.

Some of the other more elderly ones have been up'd to just to Euro 4 in the past, but that will just be the simpler mod/traps GNE have done on their terms without funding.

The DC9 Engine fitted to the L94UBs isn't available in Euro 5 format, So the new engine will have arrived in its standard Euro 2/3 Configuration ( Euro 3 on these models ) before receiving the Eminox Mods once inside the Engine bay.

It did receive the extra grill as found on the others, Aswell as a additional small grill underneath the main grill, Which extends all the way down to the bottom of the body.

(28 Nov 2016, 1:52 pm)Chris wrote Maybe the radio is linked somehow to the panic alarm?

Sorry, missed this earlier. 
It may do. I have no idea if it is.

Would it work in areas where reception/signal is poor? Just as an example, the dip at Leazes Bowl has a terrible effect on the radios and that isn't too far from control. It isn't too exposed fortunately, unlike some of the far flung reaches of the A19.

5334 is now in the new GNE livery.

(28 Nov 2016, 7:56 pm)Andreos1 wrote Sorry, missed this earlier. 
It may do. I have no idea if it is.

Would it work in areas where reception/signal is poor? Just as an example, the dip at Leazes Bowl has a terrible effect on the radios and that isn't too far from control. It isn't too exposed fortunately, unlike some of the far flung reaches of the A19.

IME, it's the Gilesgate roundabout that loses signal, particularly anticlockwise from Claypath, while the Leazes bowl is pretty consistent. Might be different for radio than phone, mind.

And yes, the mercs would suit the waggonway - similar demands to the diamonds.

Dunno if said but 5333-6 will be all repainted into new livery and remain at deptford to release 4961-4 to Percy paint to get the last few b10s gone.

(28 Nov 2016, 7:04 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote The DC9 Engine fitted to the L94UBs isn't available in Euro 5 format, So the new engine will have arrived in its standard Euro 2/3 Configuration ( Euro 3 on these models ) before receiving the Eminox Mods once inside the Engine bay.

It did receive the extra grill as found on the others, Aswell as a additional small grill underneath the main grill, Which extends all the way down to the bottom of the body.

Was contemplating if there was an actual E5 option or it was slightly different Scania lump in it as I made my post, so thanks for that!

(28 Nov 2016, 10:53 pm)BusLoverMum wrote And yes, the mercs would suit the waggonway - similar demands to the diamonds.

Citaros must be one of the few single deck buses from the GNE fleet not to be on the 28s/728/709/733. At least I can't remember even a rare odd working!

(28 Nov 2016, 11:06 pm)Ryan99 wrote Dunno if said but 5333-6 will be all repainted into new livery and remain at deptford to release 4961-4 to Percy paint to get the last few b10s gone.

It has.

(28 Nov 2016, 11:37 pm)Ambassador wrote Citaros must be one of the few single deck buses from the GNE fleet not to be on the 28s/728/709/733. At least I can't remember even a rare odd working!

Ye, don't think it'll happen anytime soon too, Chester have no Citaro's so i don't think they'll get any because of Depot standisation.

(28 Nov 2016, 11:49 pm)Michael wrote Ye, don't think it'll happen anytime soon too, Chester have no Citaro's so i don't think they'll get any because of Depot standisation.

As much as I dislike them, the red Streetlite spares do a fine job on the 28s. I doubt it's profitable enough for any upgrade. 

I'd probably radically rework the route anyway , but that's another thread!

Can anybody download the X7 timetable on the GNE app, can't even click on live departures of service X7 anywhere in peterlee


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I take it someone isn't happy with the X7 changes...


RE X7 NOW NOT SERVING WINGATE AREAS, WHY NOT REROUTE X9 TO COVER THIS AS YOU HAVE TWO SERVICES JUST GOING STRAIGHT DOWN A19. KEEP X10 AS FAST EXPRESS TO BORO, AND X9 AS THE SLOWER STAND ALONE EXPRESS. ANYONE GOING END TO END WILL KNOW THE X10 WILL BE QUICKEST,AND ALL THOSE PASENGERS THAT ARE BEING DISGARDED NOW x7 IS WITHDRAWING FROM WINGATE, WILL HAVE GOOD REASON TO CONTINUE USING GNE CONNECTION TO BOROUGH.

(29 Nov 2016, 8:41 am)Michael wrote I take it someone isn't happy with the X7 changes...


RE X7 NOW NOT SERVING WINGATE AREAS, WHY NOT REROUTE X9 TO COVER THIS AS YOU HAVE TWO SERVICES JUST GOING STRAIGHT DOWN A19. KEEP X10 AS FAST EXPRESS TO BORO, AND X9 AS THE SLOWER STAND ALONE EXPRESS. ANYONE GOING END TO END WILL KNOW THE X10 WILL BE QUICKEST,AND ALL THOSE PASENGERS THAT ARE BEING DISGARDED NOW x7 IS WITHDRAWING FROM WINGATE, WILL HAVE GOOD REASON TO CONTINUE USING GNE CONNECTION TO BOROUGH.

Nothing wrong with passengers boarding service 202 and get the X9 or X10 from peterlee.


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