(23 Jul 2016, 4:28 pm)NK53 TKT wrote Thanks

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I think it would make more sense provided the 687 ran throughout the day

That was (and is) the problem.

The 687 was hourly, which was fine for the Hexham part of the route, but the Corbridge section wouldn't support the frequency.
Of course, by reducing the frequency also reduced the ridership as it wasn't 'every hour on the hour'.

I understand why the 687 was reorganised to run off the 686, but it has further reduced the regular users.

I don't know how popular the Acomb section of the 682 is, but I saw that it was reduced in frequency during the recent closure of Hexham railway bridge which meant extended journey times due to the diversion via Two Mile Cottages.

(23 Jul 2016, 6:24 pm)G-CPTN wrote That was (and is) the problem.

The 687 was hourly, which was fine for the Hexham part of the route, but the Corbridge section wouldn't support the frequency.
Of course, by reducing the frequency also reduced the ridership as it wasn't 'every hour on the hour'.

I understand why the 687 was reorganised to run off the 686, but it has further reduced the regular users.

I don't know how popular the Acomb section of the 682 is, but I saw that it was reduced in frequency during the recent closure of Hexham railway bridge which meant extended journey times due to the diversion via Two Mile Cottages.

The last time I had the 682 from Acomb (just before it was reduced from being hourly) it was packed

Can you try avoiding quoting a large post im full?! It makes browsing harder!

My suggestion.
X21. Bishop Auckland - Spennymoor - durham - chester le street - metrocentre.
This service will be revised to operate every hour and replace service x22.
Sunday journeys will operate from Chester-le-Street depot using angel vehicles.
X22.Darlington - Great burroden - stockton high street - norton - non stop to Peterlee slip road - A19 - A184 - heworth - Gateshead - newcastle.
This service will allow for cuts or revisions to service x7,x9.
The service will operate the exact same way as route as service x10 stockton to newcastle.
This service will operate every hour during monday to Saturday daytimes.
Service x22 will be ran by Riverside.
Vehicles.
X21. 6301-03+6084spare
X22. 6304-07.
With revisions to service x10 6084 will move to crook allowing for the spare president to move to Chester-le-Street and displacing 3983 to riverside for a b10 to be withdrawn.
X7. seaham - dawdon - peterlee - wingate - norton - stockton - preston park - yarm.
This service will operate hourly still but will now use corporate buses interworking of the 265 which will be no longer indigo.
This service will no longer operate to sunderland and will brief a new extension to yarm.
This service will also serve dawdon.
X10. Alike sundays this service will operate every hour and serve peterlee bus station.
To avoid hourly breaks the service will stop at all stops between Gateshead and Heworth.
This service will also call into doxford international at peak times.
6043-44 will be allocated.
X9 6045-48.
5248,49 transfer to Deptford for service x36 releasing 4936,37 to Chester-le-Street seeing older y reg solars move to Riverside to replace the b10s

Suggestions for Chester Le St Area:

21 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St
21A/B Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Waldridge Park
22 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Durham

21A/B replaces current 34/A Chester Le St - Waldridge Pk,With 21A replacing 34 & 21B replacing 34A,Durham journeys are now numbered 22.
21A/B Run Hourly Each,22 Running every 12 Mins & 21 Running Every 12/24 Mins (Gaps were 21A/B Run) to give an improved 6 Minute frequency Chester Le St - Newcastle & 12 Minute Frequency Durham - Newcastle

X21 Bishop Auckland - Durham - Chester Le St - Metrocentre - Newcastle
Runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,before joining A1 To Metrocentre,then Into Newcastle,replaces X22,remaining Every Half Hour

X50 Durham - Chester Le St - Washington - Concord - South Shields
Now runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,alongside X21 Making a 15 Min frequency of "Fast Buses" Between Durham & Chester Le St,Replaces service 50

34 Ouston - Pelton - Chester Le St - Arniston Cnt - Framwellgate Moor - Durham
Now Runs Every 20 Mins,from Chester Le St runs Via current 50 route to Durham

the PVRs would be:

21/A/B - 11
22 - 14
X21 - Should remain as Current
X50 - 6
34 - 6

(24 Jul 2016, 7:52 pm)callum2015 wrote Suggestions for Chester Le St Area:

21 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St
21A/B Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Waldridge Park
22 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Durham

21A/B replaces current 34/A Chester Le St - Waldridge Pk,With 21A replacing 34 & 21B replacing 34A,Durham journeys are now numbered 22.
21A/B Run Hourly Each,22 Running every 12 Mins & 21 Running Every 12/24 Mins (Gaps were 21A/B Run) to give an improved 6 Minute frequency Chester Le St - Newcastle & 12 Minute Frequency Durham - Newcastle

X21 Bishop Auckland - Durham - Chester Le St - Metrocentre - Newcastle
Runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,before joining A1 To Metrocentre,then Into Newcastle,replaces X22,remaining Every Half Hour

X50 Durham - Chester Le St - Washington - Concord - South Shields
Now runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,alongside X21 Making a 15 Min frequency of "Fast Buses" Between Durham & Chester Le St,Replaces service 50

34 Ouston - Pelton - Chester Le St - Arniston Cnt - Framwellgate Moor - Durham
Now Runs Every 20 Mins,from Chester Le St runs Via current 50 route to Durham

the PVRs would be:

21/A/B - 11
22 - 14
X21 - Should remain as Current
X50 - 6
34 - 6

You will have to re-number the X50 as there is already an X50(soccer bus),could have it the 50X

(24 Jul 2016, 7:52 pm)callum2015 wrote Suggestions for Chester Le St Area:

21 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St
21A/B Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Waldridge Park
22 Newcastle - Gateshead - Low Fell - Chester Le St - Durham

21A/B replaces current 34/A Chester Le St - Waldridge Pk,With 21A replacing 34 & 21B replacing 34A,Durham journeys are now numbered 22.
21A/B Run Hourly Each,22 Running every 12 Mins & 21 Running Every 12/24 Mins (Gaps were 21A/B Run) to give an improved 6 Minute frequency Chester Le St - Newcastle & 12 Minute Frequency Durham - Newcastle

X21 Bishop Auckland - Durham - Chester Le St - Metrocentre - Newcastle
Runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,before joining A1 To Metrocentre,then Into Newcastle,replaces X22,remaining Every Half Hour

X50 Durham - Chester Le St - Washington - Concord - South Shields
Now runs Non-Stop between Durham & Chester Le St,alongside X21 Making a 15 Min frequency of "Fast Buses" Between Durham & Chester Le St,Replaces service 50

34 Ouston - Pelton - Chester Le St - Arniston Cnt - Framwellgate Moor - Durham
Now Runs Every 20 Mins,from Chester Le St runs Via current 50 route to Durham

the PVRs would be:

21/A/B - 11
22 - 14
X21 - Should remain as Current
X50 - 6
34 - 6

I think tampering with the 21s would be best avoided. We've had a system of 21/21A/21B/22 and so on in years gone by. The 21 did Newcastle-Chester-le-Street, 21A to Houghton-le-Spring and 21B to Witton Gilbert, 15 minute frequency I believe, with two terminating at Chester every hour and one 21A/21B hourly. Combing the 21 and 34s may seem cost effective, but I think it's easier to have them separate. 21 is regarded as the flagship route at Go North East, while the 34/34A are just a local service with a significantly lower PVR. 

Your suggestion for the X21 would defeat the point of it being an express to Newcastle from Chester-le-Street. Including the Metrocentre would probably increase the journey time from 30 minutes to about 45 at the least I'd expect. Both the X21 and X22 can receive heavy loadings on their own on Saturdays, especially mornings and evenings, and combining the two would either push people onto the X24 for the Metrocentre (inconvenient to the majority, as a lot of school students use the X22 and use solely Go North East, with the appropriate bus passes, but both the X22 and X24 get a similar number of OAPs) or result in people being left behind. 

As for the X50 idea, I don't think there is as much demand for a 15-minute ''fast'' frequency between Durham and Chester, but mainly the latter and Newcastle. The 21s to Durham used to operate every 10 minutes until late 2012 when service revisions coincided with the arrival of the Hybrids, and I can vaguely remember the X21 being increased to every 30 minutes while the 21 went to a lower frequency of every 15 minutes. Might be wrong, but that's my recollection of things. 

I can understand your logic with wanting to combine the likes of the 34 and 50, which in itself I think is a good idea and might be more plausible than combining the 21 and 34s, but in terms of fast services, I think Newcastle needs to be focused on more than Durham.

(24 Jul 2016, 8:34 pm)R852 PRG wrote I can vaguely remember the X21 being increased to every 30 minutes while the 21 went to a lower frequency of every 15 minutes. Might be wrong, but that's my recollection of things. 

I can remember a frequency increase on the X21 too. I think it was the time when the X20 was withdrawn so the X21 was increased to every 30 minutes as opposed to being hourly.

(24 Jul 2016, 8:34 pm)R852 PRG wrote I think tampering with the 21s would be best avoided. We've had a system of 21/21A/21B/22 and so on in years gone by. The 21 did Newcastle-Chester-le-Street, 21A to Houghton-le-Spring and 21B to Witton Gilbert, 15 minute frequency I believe, with two terminating at Chester every hour and one 21A/21B hourly. Combing the 21 and 34s may seem cost effective, but I think it's easier to have them separate. 21 is regarded as the flagship route at Go North East, while the 34/34A are just a local service with a significantly lower PVR. 

Your suggestion for the X21 would defeat the point of it being an express to Newcastle from Chester-le-Street. Including the Metrocentre would probably increase the journey time from 30 minutes to about 45 at the least I'd expect. Both the X21 and X22 can receive heavy loadings on their own on Saturdays, especially mornings and evenings, and combining the two would either push people onto the X24 for the Metrocentre (inconvenient to the majority, as a lot of school students use the X22 and use solely Go North East, with the appropriate bus passes, but both the X22 and X24 get a similar number of OAPs) or result in people being left behind. 

As for the X50 idea, I don't think there is as much demand for a 15-minute ''fast'' frequency between Durham and Chester, but mainly the latter and Newcastle. The 21s to Durham used to operate every 10 minutes until late 2012 when service revisions coincided with the arrival of the Hybrids, and I can vaguely remember the X21 being increased to every 30 minutes while the 21 went to a lower frequency of every 15 minutes. Might be wrong, but that's my recollection of things. 

I can understand your logic with wanting to combine the likes of the 34 and 50, which in itself I think is a good idea and might be more plausible than combining the 21 and 34s, but in terms of fast services, I think Newcastle needs to be focused on more than Durham.

Each operated on a 30 min frequency for the majority of their existence, with the likes of the 724 supplementing the service along Durham Road and extending to Bishop.

(24 Jul 2016, 8:51 pm)Andreos1 wrote Each operated on a 30 min frequency for the majority of their existence, with the likes of the 724 supplementing the service along Durham Road and extending to Bishop.

Didn't GNE claim that 21A and 22 etc were too confusing for customers, hence the standard 21 number. I still think there's room to improve the 21, it still suffers from bad delays and bunching up. Short runs from Newcstle to Low Fell/Allerdene would help

One from me, speaking of old Durham Rd days (a quicker bus to Beamish!)

Hourly and School holidays/Summer only.

X28

Eldon Sq - Gateshead - Low Fell - Birtley - Ouston then direct to Beamish. (Basically a twist on the old 728 and 709 routes cut off at Beamish)

(24 Jul 2016, 9:20 pm)Ambassador wrote Didn't GNE claim that 21A and 22 etc were too confusing for customers, hence the standard 21 number. I still think there's room to improve the 21, it still suffers from bad delays and bunching up. Short runs from Newcstle to Low Fell/Allerdene would help

One from me, speaking of old Durham Rd days (a quicker bus to Beamish!)

Hourly and School holidays/Summer only.

X28

Eldon Sq - Gateshead - Low Fell - Birtley - Ouston then direct to Beamish. (Basically a twist on the old 728 and 709 routes cut off at Beamish)

Yeah, then renumbered everything as the 21 and caused all sorts of confusion - with punters using the number and not ultimate destination.
So they split them as the 21 and 22 and then got rid of the 22 - going back to the one number system again.

Since talking to my fellow neighbours they all told me what theyd like or suggest as a bus service.
Route 8.
This service will operate via the casletown estate the same way as route 73 serving the hall area.
The service will allow service 36 to no longer serve casletown and buses for wheatsheaf can be made on service 35.
9. Deptford runs withdrawn.
New 38.
Tunstall bank - esdale estate - ryhope village - hollycarside - leechmere asda - ashbrooke - sunderland city centre - wheatsheaf - southwick - witherwack - red house - downhill - boldon - fellgate - jarrow.
This service will replace service x36 and will continue to operate hourly.
The service will operate the same way as service 38c to sunderland.
This service will serve witherwack estate.
New links to jarrow.
New x60
Seaham - mill inn - ryhope village - Grangetown - sunderland interchange - fullwell - east boldon - boldon Asda - heworth - Gateshead - newcastle.
This service will operate hourly and replace the old deptford runs.
The x60 will omit westlea and instead follow service 265 to mill inn.
Journeys will be alike the old x3.
This service will operate as a limited stop between ryhope village and sunderland interchange only stopping at Grangtown post office.
All stops to boldon cinema from sunderland.
36. This service will from Sunderland operate to royal hospital then to palion across Queen alexander bridge then through southwick to thompson road to seaburn.
The service will give residents a new service to access other destinations.
The service will operate as the 36A as it will operate hourly.
Route 9 from percy main will continue to be every 30 minutes .

To bring brand names there way a suggestion.
8. Stanley - beamish museum - pelton - chester le street - washington art centre - washington - waterview park - Enterprise park - north hylton road sainsburys - southwick - witherwack - red house - downhill - boldon Asda - whitleas - chichester - south shields.
This service will extend to south shields from casletown it will involve changing routes 5,35,50,x36.
The service will replace service 35 casletown to southwick.
This service will then replace service x36 to boldon.
Passengers for boldon Asda can get service 8.
Service 35 will be revised to operate hourly.
The route will operate a every 30 minute frequency.
Pvr.6 (5395-5401) 5401 will go red service 78 will get a new brand and no longer interwork with the 8.
New 35.
Sunderland - royal hospital - barnes - prospect - broadway - ford estate - pennywell quarry - palion - casletown - hylton castle - town end farm - boldon - boldon cinema - heworth.
This service will operate as a kind of local service the route will be hourly and serve new areas.
This service will allow nexus to withdraw the funding of route 99.
The service will be hourly on a trial basis.
Pvr.3 5325-27.
36. Town end farm - ferryboat lane - casletown broadway - casletown - southwick road - wheatsheaf - sunderland - barnes - silksworth - east herrington - herrington burn - hougton le spring - fence houses - Great lumley - chester le street.
This service will extend back to town and farm and also continue to omit southwick green
The service will join before the bank drop on keir harde way
The service will operate every 30 minutes with a pvr of
8.(5298-5306.
New x37. Sunderland - barnes - east herrington - herrington burn - hougton le spring - hetton downs - hetton le hole - low moorsley.
This service will replace service 35 on a every 30 minute frequency interworking with Deptford 9s.
This service will use 5307-09 in corporate livery but solars will also form the pvr with vykings only at school times.
From this 3978 transfers to riverside enabling 4935 to transfer to Deptford.
5. This service will be standalone but still be with washington.
50 This service will finnish at boldon cinema.
2x omnicitys will be released and these will move to percy main allowing 4912,17 to be withdrawn and the 9 to unfortunately be Omnicity allocated

Service Suggestions Why-Aye-Five 0 serives
Still have the 5/50 interworking just with different numbers
Current 5 renumber to 50
Current 50 renumber to 51
Have the 50A run during the day times but have renumbered 52 and this would interwork with what is currently the 50 at Durham

Now the routes and frequency
New 50 South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - West Harton - Whiteleas - Boldon - Fellgate - Hedworth - York Avenue - Jarrow and will run every 15 minutes because of interwoking with 51/52

51 South Shields-Chichester-West Harton-Bolden-Nissan-Concord-Washington Galleries-Ayton-Chester-le-street-Waldridge Park-Plawsworth-Arnison Centre-Framwellgate Moor-Durham this service will run every 30 minutes

52 South Shields-Chichester-West Harton-Bolden-Waterview Park-Concord-Washington Galleries-Ayton-Harraton-Chester-le-street-Waldridge Park-Plawsworth-Arnison Centre-Framwellgate Moor-Durham this service will run every 30 minutes

10. Allenheads - Allendale - hexham - Corbridge - Riding mill - Stocksfield - prudhoe - crawcrook - Ryton - blaydon - newcastle buisness park - newcastle - coast road - battle hill - hadrain park.
This service will see some extensions the service will extend to allenheads every hour with the service every 30 minutes to hexham.
This service will operate every 30 minutes and will replace services 57 and 688
This service will also serve newcastle buisness park allowing service 12A to serve metrocentre.
A new fleet will also be introduced.
Pvr 13. 5x wright streetlite 8x volvo b9tl
The Streetlites will mainly be used on the allenheads extension.
6071-79 will remain on the 10A,10B.
6080-82 will replace 5328-30 on the Crusader.
6083 will be transferred to crook as a spare bus for the x21
The 57 will revert back to its old route.
5320-24,28,29,30 will be freed up.
5320-23 replace 4989-92 on the 39.
5324 replaces 5212
5328-30 replaces 4969,76,5213.
The solars will replace the b10s at Riverside

42 to additionally serve Hadrian Park,and the 42 bound from Cramlington to extend to Whitley Bay via the old 85/86 route from North Shields,so it would be hourly to Whitley Bay

(29 Jul 2016, 8:42 am)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote 10. Allenheads - Allendale - hexham - Corbridge - Riding mill - Stocksfield - prudhoe - crawcrook - Ryton - blaydon - newcastle buisness park - newcastle - coast road - battle hill - hadrain park.
This service will see some extensions the service will extend to allenheads every hour with the service every 30 minutes to hexham.
This service will operate every 30 minutes and will replace services 57 and 688
This service will also serve newcastle buisness park allowing service 12A to serve metrocentre.
A new fleet will also be introduced.
Pvr 13. 5x wright streetlite 8x volvo b9tl
The Streetlites will mainly be used on the allenheads extension.
6071-79 will remain on the 10A,10B.
6080-82 will replace 5328-30 on the Crusader.
6083 will be transferred to crook as a spare bus for the x21
The 57 will revert back to its old route.
5320-24,28,29,30 will be freed up.
5320-23 replace 4989-92 on the 39.
5324 replaces 5212
5328-30 replaces 4969,76,5213.
The solars will replace the b10s at Riverside

All this suggestion is a recipe for disaster, Most journeys at Peak Times on a B9 are full on both decks. Sticking Streelite's on there is just diabolical.
And who wants a bus from Hadrian Park to Allenheads anyway?

The suggestion that a TEN should run up to Allendale and Allenheads (not to mention Battle Hill and Hadrian Park) is a recipe for disaster IMO.

By all means schedule connecting buses, but what happens when there are delays somewhere along the route?

As it is, Hexham usually keeps a spare to slot into the TEN route when the incoming bus is delayed.

Adding the section up to Allendale and Allenheads would inevitably add more delays (I'm not talking about extended running times but those unpredictable delays).

South Tyneside and Gateshead Service Revisions

New Citylink Service 58 - Newcastle Market Street , Gateshead Interchange , Deckham , Wardley , A184 , Southern Side of Fellgate Estate , Hedworth , South Leam , Tyne Dock , Chichester , South Shields

A mostly new routing to the current 58, Replacing the Q1/Q2 section between Gateshead Interchange and Heworth, And the routing of the Original Fab Fifty Seven years ago to Shields.

This will be a faster, More direct service compared to the 27 but will still serve heavily populated Residential Estates along the way, Aswell as competing with the unreliable Green and Yellow Line Metro Services.
Fares will compete with Metro between South Shields and Fellgate, With a direct service in under 35 Mins from Fellgate and 50 Mins from Tyne Dock.
The current Versa's will be displaced to another Service mentioned below, A batch of 15 Optare Metrocity's will come to replace the displaced Citylink Versa's to South Tyne Service 88.

Frequency :

4-6AM First journey from South Shields at 4:40AM , Arriving at Market around a hour later. Half Hourly with all services going to South Shields
6-9AM Frequency ups to every 10 Mins, With 4 Buses an hour finishing short at Heworth, 2 Buses a Hour extend the full route to South Shields.
9AM-6PM Every 10 Mins with 4 Buses an hour finishing at Heworth, 2 Continue to South Shields. Diagrams will finish with a Short to Heworth after Peak Time, Before running light to Riverside, 1 Diagram finishes at Gateshead, Running from South Shields.
6-End of Service : Half Hourly, Running full route to South Shields, Late night departure at 23:45 from Market Street on Fridays and Saturdays, Finishing at Tyne Dock.

Quaylink Service Q1/Q2 - Newcastle Central Station - Quayside - Gateshead Interchange - Low Fell - Wrekenton - Heworth - Current 58 route to Gateshead .

Service will remain unchanged but will be rerouted on the current 58 route to Gateshead to replace the 58, A extra 1 Versa will be added into the PVR coming from the Citylink batch.


South Tyne Service 88/88A South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - Simonside - South Leam - Jarrow - Jarrow Estates - Hebburn - Monkton Lane - Lukes Lane

Current Versa + 1 Solar allocation is replaced with a 11x Optare Versa Allocation off the Citylink 58, A extra Versa is allocated to allow more running time.
Next Stop Announcements will also be provided to make use of the NSA's inside these Versa's, Free Wifi is also provided, Upgrading the spec on this route.

Section between Jarrow and Lukes Lane is downgraded to every 30 Mins, Due to the less passengers using this section. A quicker and already present alternative is via the 27, Which serves Hebburn and Monkton Lane estates.
The Section between Jarrow and South Shields is upgraded to every 10 mins ( 88 Every 20 Mins and 88A the Same ) Competing with Stagecoach's Service 18 between Brockely Whins and South Shields and erasing capacity issues at Peak Times.

New Purple Arrow Service 15 South Shields - Westoe - Harton Nook - Whiteleas - Bolden Colliery - Wardley - Then current 67 route Winlaton via the Metrocentre, Also will serve Gateshead Interchange

A new service similar to the recent Blue Arrow Concept, This time connecting South Tyneside to the Metrocentre.

This service serves area not served by the Metro-X66 Connection, Getting more passengers onto the former Service 67aswell as offering a Semi-Fast service to the Metrocentre from South Tyneside.

PVR would be in the region of 7 or 8, With Half-Hourly frequencys during the day, And Hourly frequency's in Early Mornings and Late Evenings running Wardley - Metrocentre only.
Sundays will be Hourly on the Full route to South Shields, Reverting to only Wardley - Metrocentre in the evening

The last departure from the Metrocentre to South Shields will be 9:40 PM on Weekdays and Saturdays and 5:40 PM on Sundays.

A ( Hopefully ) Short Term allocation of 4932-35, 4942-43 and 4966 would be in place, 4926-4931 will remain as Red Spares.


Hope you have enjoyed reading
South Tyne Lad

(07 Aug 2016, 8:23 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote South Tyneside and Gateshead Service Revisions

New Citylink Service 58 - Newcastle Market Street , Gateshead Interchange , Deckham , Wardley , A184 , Southern Side of Fellgate Estate , Hedworth , South Leam , Tyne Dock , Chichester , South Shields

A mostly new routing to the current 58, Replacing the Q1/Q2 section between Gateshead Interchange and Heworth, And the routing of the Original Fab Fifty Seven years ago to Shields.

This will be a faster, More direct service compared to the 27 but will still serve heavily populated Residential Estates along the way, Aswell as competing with the unreliable Green and Yellow Line Metro Services.
Fares will compete with Metro between South Shields and Fellgate, With a direct service in under 35 Mins from Fellgate and 50 Mins from Tyne Dock.
The current Versa's will be displaced to another Service mentioned below, A batch of 15 Optare Metrocity's will come to replace the displaced Citylink Versa's to South Tyne Service 88.

Frequency :

4-6AM First journey from South Shields at 4:40AM , Arriving at Market around a hour later. Half Hourly with all services going to South Shields
6-9AM Frequency ups to every 10 Mins, With 4 Buses an hour finishing short at Heworth, 2 Buses a Hour extend the full route to South Shields.
9AM-6PM Every 10 Mins with 4 Buses an hour finishing at Heworth, 2 Continue to South Shields. Diagrams will finish with a Short to Heworth after Peak Time, Before running light to Riverside, 1 Diagram finishes at Gateshead, Running from South Shields.
6-End of Service : Half Hourly, Running full route to South Shields, Late night departure at 23:45 from Market Street on Fridays and Saturdays, Finishing at Tyne Dock.

Quaylink Service Q1/Q2 - Newcastle Central Station - Quayside - Gateshead Interchange - Low Fell - Wrekenton - Heworth - Current 58 route to Gateshead .

Service will remain unchanged but will be rerouted on the current 58 route to Gateshead to replace the 58, A extra 1 Versa will be added into the PVR coming from the Citylink batch.


South Tyne Service 88/88A South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - Simonside - South Leam - Jarrow - Jarrow Estates - Hebburn - Monkton Lane - Lukes Lane

Current Versa + 1 Solar allocation is replaced with a 11x Optare Versa Allocation off the Citylink 58, A extra Versa is allocated to allow more running time.
Next Stop Announcements will also be provided to make use of the NSA's inside these Versa's, Free Wifi is also provided, Upgrading the spec on this route.

Section between Jarrow and Lukes Lane is downgraded to every 30 Mins, Due to the less passengers using this section. A quicker and already present alternative is via the 27, Which serves Hebburn and Monkton Lane estates.
The Section between Jarrow and South Shields is upgraded to every 10 mins ( 88 Every 20 Mins and 88A the Same ) Competing with Stagecoach's Service 18 between Brockely Whins and South Shields and erasing capacity issues at Peak Times.

New Purple Arrow Service 15 South Shields - Westoe - Harton Nook - Whiteleas - Bolden Colliery - Wardley - Then current 67 route Winlaton via the Metrocentre, Also will serve Gateshead Interchange

A new service similar to the recent Blue Arrow Concept, This time connecting South Tyneside to the Metrocentre.

This service serves area not served by the Metro-X66 Connection, Getting more passengers onto the former Service 67aswell as offering a Semi-Fast service to the Metrocentre from South Tyneside.

PVR would be in the region of 7 or 8, With Half-Hourly frequencys during the day, And Hourly frequency's in Early Mornings and Late Evenings running Wardley - Metrocentre only.
Sundays will be Hourly on the Full route to South Shields, Reverting to only Wardley - Metrocentre in the evening

The last departure from the Metrocentre to South Shields will be 9:40 PM on Weekdays and Saturdays and 5:40 PM on Sundays.

A ( Hopefully ) Short Term allocation of 4932-35, 4942-43 and 4966 would be in place, 4926-4931 will remain as Red Spares.


Hope you have enjoyed reading
South Tyne Lad

The 88/88A idea is great as is the 15, not sure about the 58 though

(07 Aug 2016, 8:23 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote South Tyneside and Gateshead Service Revisions

New Citylink Service 58 - Newcastle Market Street , Gateshead Interchange , Deckham , Wardley , A184 , Southern Side of Fellgate Estate , Hedworth , South Leam , Tyne Dock , Chichester , South Shields

A mostly new routing to the current 58, Replacing the Q1/Q2 section between Gateshead Interchange and Heworth, And the routing of the Original Fab Fifty Seven years ago to Shields.

This will be a faster, More direct service compared to the 27 but will still serve heavily populated Residential Estates along the way, Aswell as competing with the unreliable Green and Yellow Line Metro Services.
Fares will compete with Metro between South Shields and Fellgate, With a direct service in under 35 Mins from Fellgate and 50 Mins from Tyne Dock.
The current Versa's will be displaced to another Service mentioned below, A batch of 15 Optare Metrocity's will come to replace the displaced Citylink Versa's to South Tyne Service 88.

Frequency :

4-6AM First journey from South Shields at 4:40AM , Arriving at Market around a hour later. Half Hourly with all services going to South Shields
6-9AM Frequency ups to every 10 Mins, With 4 Buses an hour finishing short at Heworth, 2 Buses a Hour extend the full route to South Shields.
9AM-6PM Every 10 Mins with 4 Buses an hour finishing at Heworth, 2 Continue to South Shields. Diagrams will finish with a Short to Heworth after Peak Time, Before running light to Riverside, 1 Diagram finishes at Gateshead, Running from South Shields.
6-End of Service : Half Hourly, Running full route to South Shields, Late night departure at 23:45 from Market Street on Fridays and Saturdays, Finishing at Tyne Dock.

Quaylink Service Q1/Q2 - Newcastle Central Station - Quayside - Gateshead Interchange - Low Fell - Wrekenton - Heworth - Current 58 route to Gateshead .

Service will remain unchanged but will be rerouted on the current 58 route to Gateshead to replace the 58, A extra 1 Versa will be added into the PVR coming from the Citylink batch.


South Tyne Service 88/88A South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - Simonside - South Leam - Jarrow - Jarrow Estates - Hebburn - Monkton Lane - Lukes Lane

Current Versa + 1 Solar allocation is replaced with a 11x Optare Versa Allocation off the Citylink 58, A extra Versa is allocated to allow more running time.
Next Stop Announcements will also be provided to make use of the NSA's inside these Versa's, Free Wifi is also provided, Upgrading the spec on this route.

Section between Jarrow and Lukes Lane is downgraded to every 30 Mins, Due to the less passengers using this section. A quicker and already present alternative is via the 27, Which serves Hebburn and Monkton Lane estates.
The Section between Jarrow and South Shields is upgraded to every 10 mins ( 88 Every 20 Mins and 88A the Same ) Competing with Stagecoach's Service 18 between Brockely Whins and South Shields and erasing capacity issues at Peak Times.

New Purple Arrow Service 15 South Shields - Westoe - Harton Nook - Whiteleas - Bolden Colliery - Wardley - Then current 67 route Winlaton via the Metrocentre, Also will serve Gateshead Interchange

A new service similar to the recent Blue Arrow Concept, This time connecting South Tyneside to the Metrocentre.

This service serves area not served by the Metro-X66 Connection, Getting more passengers onto the former Service 67aswell as offering a Semi-Fast service to the Metrocentre from South Tyneside.

PVR would be in the region of 7 or 8, With Half-Hourly frequencys during the day, And Hourly frequency's in Early Mornings and Late Evenings running Wardley - Metrocentre only.
Sundays will be Hourly on the Full route to South Shields, Reverting to only Wardley - Metrocentre in the evening

The last departure from the Metrocentre to South Shields will be 9:40 PM on Weekdays and Saturdays and 5:40 PM on Sundays.

A ( Hopefully ) Short Term allocation of 4932-35, 4942-43 and 4966 would be in place, 4926-4931 will remain as Red Spares.


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South Tyne Lad

I saw this come up somewhere on Facebook and I wonder if you could do something like this to improve the services - http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local...-1-8054724. Seems people aren't happy with the links to the hospital so maybe you could have:


14 - South Shields-Ocean Road-South Tyneside Hospital then fast to Jarrow and Hebburn then goes to Wardley/Ellen Wilkinson Estate then it goes onto Newcastle direct via Heworth and Gateshead to provide a faster link from Wardley than the 57 and also from areas in South Tyneside. Or it could even replace the 69 which would make sense.
15 - As you said

They mention in there about the reliability of the 88/88A too so that needs to be sorted out.

Only thing is even though the metro is crap I'm not sure how many people would choose the bus over it to be fair.

(07 Aug 2016, 8:35 pm)Tom wrote I saw this come up somewhere on Facebook and I wonder if you could do something like this to improve the services - http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/local...-1-8054724. Seems people aren't happy with the links to the hospital so maybe you could have:


14 - South Shields-Ocean Road-South Tyneside Hospital then fast to Jarrow and Hebburn then goes to Wardley/Ellen Wilkinson Estate then it goes onto Newcastle direct via Heworth and Gateshead to provide a faster link from Wardley than the 57 and also from areas in South Tyneside. Or it could even replace the 69 which would make sense.
15 - As you said

They mention in there about the reliability of the 88/88A too so that needs to be sorted out.

Only thing is even though the metro is crap I'm not sure how many people would choose the bus over it to be fair.

I think these are actually sensible suggestions,but just one small problem,what would you re number the current 14 and 15/15A

(07 Aug 2016, 8:23 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote

South Tyne Service 88/88A South Shields - Chichester - South Tyneside Hospital - Simonside - South Leam - Jarrow - Jarrow Estates - Hebburn - Monkton Lane - Lukes Lane

Current Versa + 1 Solar allocation is replaced with a 11x Optare Versa Allocation off the Citylink 58, A extra Versa is allocated to allow more running time.
Next Stop Announcements will also be provided to make use of the NSA's inside these Versa's, Free Wifi is also provided, Upgrading the spec on this route.

Section between Jarrow and Lukes Lane is downgraded to every 30 Mins, Due to the less passengers using this section. A quicker and already present alternative is via the 27, Which serves Hebburn and Monkton Lane estates.
The Section between Jarrow and South Shields is upgraded to every 10 mins ( 88 Every 20 Mins and 88A the Same ) Competing with Stagecoach's Service 18 between Brockely Whins and South Shields and erasing capacity issues at Peak Times.


I can’t see the point in reducing the frequency of the 88/88A to every 30mins between Jarrow and Lukes Lane Estate. That proposal will leave massive sections of Hebburn with buses running to a reduced one per hour frequency in each direction. The same reduced service would affect areas of employment in Jarrow.

 Contrary to your view that the 27 will provide an alternative this is clearly not the case as the Crusader goes nowhere near vast sections of Hebburn. Here are my concerns:

One of South Tyneside’s employment hotspots is served by the 88A at locations on both sides of Blackett Street consisting of Jarrow Business Centre and Viking Business Park. People employed at those locations would see a significant reduction in travel opportunities with the current two buses per hour service reduced to one per hour frequency in each direction. Wagonway Road Industrial Estate in Hebburn is another area of employment served by the 88A although I accept that customers could walk from the 88 route to get there. Indeed the post code NE31 1SP on the 88A route has a very high density of employment mainly around the A&P Docks area.

New social housing has recently been built at School Street with more development due on Argyle Street hopefully increasing demand for bus use on the 88. Lyon Street, Ellison Street and the surrounding area all with a low car ownership ratio will suffer a significant service frequency reduction as will the remainder of the Hebburn Quay Village. Victoria Road West, Crawley Avenue, Toner Avenue, Hartleburn Avenue and part of the Lakes Estates will have their connections to the remainder of South Tyneside reduced in frequency.

The current 88 serves the Hebburn Cemetery and Reyrolle Sports Ground on a half hour each direction service. With your proposal this would be reduced to once an hour each way and when you see elderly people (as I have)  that have had to wait up to half an hour after attending a funeral getting on the bus I would not want to be the person proposing a once per hour service on the 88 (supplement by the 515).

The unique selling point of the South Tyne 88/88A is that it offers a through service at Lukes Lane. The through service provides a clock and anti-clock circle around the southern part of Hebburn on a half hour each way frequency. This circle around Hebburn is an essential service used by people to get to the shops, doctors surgeries and the medical centre. The circle route currently also allows students from the town’s main Comprehensive School on Campbell Park Road to travel in both directions on a half hour frequency. The Lakes School is served in a similar way. This through service has been developed and improved over the years by Go North East with the input of other stakeholders and to cut such a service would undermine all of that hard work.

Lukes Lane would still have two buses per hour with your proposal and it could probably survive with that service. However being an area of low car ownership Lukes Lane is likely to generate enough revenue to justify the current service.
You say that passenger numbers on the Jarrow to Lukes Lane section is lower than the section from Jarrow to South Shields. It is not just numbers of passengers that needs to be taken into account it is revenue that matters and in my experience the 88/88A benefits from a lot of short hop customers in Hebburn such as Crawley Avenue or Marine Drive to the local ASDA. Short hop fares are a good revenue stream.  I have seen many photos from a local bus enthusiast showing good loadings at Hebburn ASDA on the 88/88A.

I will never object to the frequency reduction of a service when it fails to meet revenue targets. The bus operators Commercial Team should be left to make such decisions on service reductions with the enthusiast community constructively suggesting new and enhanced services. If a reasonable profit can be achieved with 4 buses per hour and if the frequency is then reduced to 2 per hour there is a risk that a competitor could see an opportunity to step in. Alternatively Nexus could tender out some of your proposed withdrawn runs which might benefit a competitor. In any event I believe that some journeys on the 88/88A are supported by Nexus so proposing service reductions might not be as simple as your suggestion.

I do like your idea on having a standard type of vehicle on the 88/88A route. Any proposal to go all Versa working would require an alternative utilisation for the Solar that runs the morning 92 & 856 if it is no longer going to deployed on the ( 88) 88A. Perhaps suggesting a new route for the Solar or finding an existing route where it can earn its keep during the day would help.
 

Service suggestion.
4. Hougton le spring - fence houses - shiney androw - Glebe - washington - concord - heworth - Saltmeadows - Gateshead stadium - Gateshead.
This service will replace the 93,94 between heworth and Gateshead.
With this service 4 will be decreased to operate every 15 minutes with peak extra journeys scheduled.
2x buses will join the brand
5337,38 from stanley will join with 2x solars to stanley.
Riverside will operate 2 buses on the 4 these being 5337,38.
20. South shields - harton nook - cleadon - fullwell Grange - Wheatsheaf - Sunderland - Barnes - Silksworth - Doxford international - Hougton le spring - hall lane - east rainton - Belmont - Durham
This service will be revised slightly and will continue to operate every 20 minutes.
This service will replace service 35A,36 in silksworth as the service will run evenings and sundays aswell.
This service will follow the old 33 route to doxford international.
The service will allow service x35 to no longer serve doxford international.
Services 35A,36 will replace service 20 between the barnes and East herrington section.
20A. South shields - harton nook - cleadon - East Boldon metro - Boldon bank top - Downhill - ferryboat lane - Enterprise park - Queen Alex bridge - palion - royal hospital - Barnes - East herrington board inn - Hougton le spring - Rainton bridge - East Rainton - Belmont - Durham - Arnison centre.
This service will omit sunderland and will service east Boldon metro and ferryboat lane.
This service will operate every 30 minutes.
With this service 36 will be allowed to ternamate at sunderland allowing the extension to the docks possible without confusion.
The service will provide additional transport to Arnison centre as well
X20. South shields - harton nook - cleadon - fullwell Grange - Wheatsheaf - Sunderland - Barnes - East herrington - A690- Belmont - Durham.
This service will operate at peak times and will omit hougton le spring, east rainton to provide a fast service

New serives South Tyne Loop
South Shields-Ocean Road-The Sundeil-Horsly Hill-Marsden-Harton Nook-South Tyneside Hospital-Whitleas-Biddick Hall-Boldon Asda-Fellgate-Monkton Business Park-Monkton Lane Estate-Luke's Lane Estate-Hebburn-Jarrow-York Avenue-Primroe-Simonside-Tyne Dock-Stanhope Road-Chichester-South Shields.

This service would run round in both directions.

(17 Aug 2016, 5:29 pm)Ds1197 wrote New serives South Tyne Loop
South Shields-Ocean Road-The Sundeil-Horsly Hill-Marsden-Harton Nook-South Tyneside Hospital-Whitleas-Biddick Hall-Boldon Asda-Fellgate-Monkton Business Park-Monkton Lane Estate-Luke's Lane Estate-Hebburn-Jarrow-York Avenue-Primroe-Simonside-Tyne Dock-Stanhope Road-Chichester-South Shields.

This service would run round in both directions.

Reliability would be catastrophic on this, The current 88 ( Which covers half of the places shown ) suffers from Major Delays pretty much every Evening Peak ( Also includes School finishing time )

Shields to the Hospital, Whitleas , Biddick Hall , Bolden Asda and Fellgate is covered by the 5 every half a hour and everything else bar the Hospital is also served by the 50 every half and hour.

Stagecoach have a big presence in Most of the inner Shields areas, Enough to make a competitors route unviable.

(17 Aug 2016, 11:08 pm)South Tyne Lad wrote Reliability would be catastrophic on this, The current 88 ( Which covers half of the places shown ) suffers from Major Delays pretty much every Evening Peak ( Also includes School finishing time )

Shields to the Hospital, Whitleas , Biddick Hall , Bolden Asda and Fellgate is covered by the 5 every half a hour and everything else bar the Hospital is also served by the 50 every half and hour.

Stagecoach have a big presence in Most of the inner Shields areas, Enough to make a competitors route unviable.

Would be pointless as stagecoach are pretty reliable and the gne 88 are terrible

Improved links to Washington Network.


Red Arrows
X1 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Queen Elizabeth Hospital – Wrekenton – Springwell – Washington Galleries – Shiney Row – Houghton-le-Spring – Hetton-le-Hole – Easington Lane
X2 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Queen Elizabeth Hospital – Wrekenton – Springwell – Washington Galleries – Shiney Row – Hastings Hill – Sunderland Royal Hospital – Sunderland University – Sunderland Interchange

• With introduction of the New Service (4A), The X1 will reduce in Frequency to Every 15 Minutes between Newcastle and Easington Lane (Monday to Saturday), and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday.
  
• Service X2 will be reintroduced to provide an “Express Service” between Sunderland, Washington Galleries and Newcastle, and will operate Every 30 Minutes (Monday to Saturday), and Hourly on a Sunday.
  

X3 – Sunderland Interchange - Doxford International – A19 Direct to Waterview Park – Teal Farm – Biddick – Washington Galleries – Direct to Heworth Metro – Gateshead – Newcastle Eldon Square

• Service X3 is a peak time express service which will interwork with the “Red Arrows” X1 & X2 Services, and will provide links from Newcastle to Doxford International via Gateshead & Washington, this service will operate Every 30 Minutes at peak times, with late journey’s also operating hourly between 7:15pm and 10:15pm, ensuring those who work late can get home.
  

Connections 4
4 – Heworth – Usworth – Concord – Albany - Washington Galleries – Glebe – Fatfield – Shiney Row – Bournmoor – Houghton-le-Spring
4A – Heworth – Donwell - Usworth – Concord – Albany – Washington Galleries – Glebe – Fatfield – Shiney Row – Philadelphia – Graswell – Houghton-le-Spring

• Services 4/4A will continue to provide a Service up to Every 10 Minutes (Monday to Saturday), and Every 15 Minutes on a Sunday. Furthermore, they will interwork at Houghton-le-Spring to provide a Clockwise/Anti Clockwise loop to provide improved local links to the area.
  
• The introduction of the 4A will bring back old links provided by Service 294 in years gone by, this will reinstate links to Heworth & Washington Galleries from Philadelphia & Graswell, as well reinstating a more direct link between Washington Galleries and Donwell replacing the current 82 Service.
  

Simplicity
2 – Washington Galleries – Lambton – Harraton – Fatfield – Barnwell – Penshaw – Hastings Hill – Grindon Mill – Sunderland Royal Hospital – Sunderland University – Sunderland City Centre – Grangetown – Hollycarrside – Ryhope – Silksworth

• Revised Service 2 will merge with Service (2A) to provide a Service up to Every 15 Minutes (Monday to Saturday), and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday between Washington Galleries and Silksworth.
  
• With the reintroduction of the X2 this will provide a Bus “Every 10 Minutes” between Washington Galleries and Sunderland City Centre, and faster express links direct to Newcastle from Sunderland.
  

Coast & Country

• Service 8 (Sunderland to Stanley via Washington Galleries & Chester-le-Street) will remain unchanged, providing a bus Every 30 Minutes.
  

Whey-Aye-50

• Service 50 (Durham to South Shields via Chester-le-Street & Washington Galleries will remain unchanged, providing a bus Every 30 Minutes.
  

Washington Locals
82 – Birtley – Portmeads – Portobello – Ayton – Lambton – Washington Galleries – Glebe – Washington Village – Barmston Court – Barmston – Sulgrave – Concord – B&Q – Blackfell – Oxclose – Washington Galleries
83 – Birtley – Portmeads – Portobello – Rickleton – Harraton - Ayton – Lambton – Washington Galleries – Biddick – Brady Square – Barmston – Peel Retail Park – Washington Comprehensive School – Concord – Blackfell – Oxclose – Washington Galleries

• Services 82/82A/83/85 & 86 will be merged together into two services (82 & 83), providing a bus Every 15 Minutes between Birtley, Washington Galleries and Concord via local Villages in the Washington Area.
  
• Previous links to from Concord to Heworth via Donwell will be operated by the 4A.
  

22 – Sunderland Interchange – Sunderland Royal Hospital – Hastings Hill – Penshaw – Shiney Row – Washington Galleries – Birtley - Angel of the North – Low Fell – Gateshead – Newcastle

• Service 22 will provide cross-city-links between Sunderland and Newcastle via Washington Galleries, Birtley, Low Fell & Gateshead.
  

4/4A – Houghton-le-Spring – Bournmoor – Shiney Row – Fatfield – Washington Galleries – Albany – Concord – Donwell – Usworth – Heworth – Leam Lane Estate – Felling Square – Deckham – Gateshead – Newcastle

• Merging of Services 4 and 58 operating up to Every 10 Minutes between Houghton-le-Spring, Washington, Heworth, Gateshead and Newcastle.
  
• Provides a number of new links from the Gateshead Estates to Washington without the hassle of changing buses.
  

38 - Rainton Bridge Npower - Houghton-le-Spring – Newbottle – East Herrington – Doxford International – Moorside – Doxford Park Shops – Tunstall Bank – Hollycarrside – Leechmere - Ashbrook – Sunderland City Centre – Southwick – Castletown

•  New Service 38 offers local links around the Sunderland Estates to Doxford Park and Rainton Bridge Npower, with the service operating up Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturdays, and Hourly on Sundays, also provides a service Every 15 Minutes between Doxford International and Houghton-le-Spring alongside the X35.
  

X3 – Sunderland Interchange - Doxford International – A19 Direct to Waterview Park – Teal Farm – Biddick – Washington Galleries – Direct to Heworth Metro – Gateshead – Newcastle Eldon Square

• Service X3 is a peak time express service which will interwork with the “Red Arrows” X1 & X2 Services, and will provide links from Newcastle to Doxford International via Gateshead & Washington, this service will operate Every 30 Minutes at peak times, with late journey’s also operating hourly between 7:15pm and 10:15pm, ensuring those who work late can get home.
  

X35 - Sunderland - Barnes Park - East Herrington - Doxford International - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton-le-Hole - Easington Lane - South Hetton - Easington Village - Peterlee - Horden - Blackhall – Hartlepool

• Evening Journey’s which currently terminate at South Hetton will extend as far as Peterlee, to providing those working Doxford International, an improved evening service after 6pm.
  
• No changes to Daytime Timetable.
  

Some suggestions(some will dislike so be warned)
Service 9 withdrawn
Service 42 withdrawn through benton and forest hall,revised to operate via great lime road,palmersville metro then resume its current route to North Shields from benton Asda this service will still operate every 30 mins to benton asda and hourly to cramlington
new service 42A will operate from cramlington to north shields via the same route as service 42 to benton asda,from benton asda it will operate via Holystone,west allotment,northumberland park,shiremoor,new york,rake lane,monkseaton,whitley bay,cullercoats,marden estate,Tynemouth,North shields,services 42 and 42A will interwork in North Shields
New crosstyne service 43 will operate the old 319 route this service will operate every 30 mins to Wallsend and hourly to cramlington
new crosstyne service 44 will operate the old 310 service to blyth and will operate every 30 mins to North Shields and hourly to blyth these services will be stand alone and will not interwork in sunderland
Citylink 57 one bus an hour will extend the cobalt from 6am to 6pm all buses after 6pm will terminate at hadrian park like now
Cobalt Clipper 310 will additionally omit Hadrian Park offering a new connection to North Shields

Some ideas for the East Durham area linking it with Tyneside and Teesside

New X61
Sunderland-Grangetown-Seaham-Dalton Park-Woods Terrace then same as current 61 to Station Estate

Modified 61
Same as now but from Woods Terrace it would go round Cornwall Estate the opposite way to it's current route to Station Estate

The combined frequency would keep to the current 15 minutes and they would interwork from Station Estate...On a Sunday somehow interwork X61 with the 60 to give Murton a service to Seaham on a Sunday

Modified 265
Only change being would be to modify the route to go back round Cornwall Estate

Modify the timings of the 202 and 265 to give a roughly 20 minute combined w/X61 service between Seaham and Murton

New X8
Sunderland-Grangetown-Ryhope-New Seaham-Dalton Park-Peterlee-Billingham-Middlesbrough

Modified X10
Only change being, it goes to Dalton Park

X8 and X10 would be half hourly at Dalton Park giving Tyneside and Teesside a direct link to said retail park

Modified X36
Sunderland-Grangetown-Ryhope-A19-Dalton-Park-Peterlee-Horden-Blackhall-Hartlepool

X36 would be hourly initially to guage if it would be a success

[b]Modified X1[b]
As it is to Hetton, then split it, send 2 to Dalton Park via the 265 route(excl. East Moor Est.)



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