Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - September 2015

[Jimmi]

The match would have resulted in delays today - always seems to affect services which don't go anywhere near the Stadium, and I can only put it down to higher-than-usual loadings.

Obviously doesn't account for buses going missing completely!

Think you can often get traffic around where buses enter Park Lane, although it's many moons since I was last in Sunderland on a match day, although I have been to gigs at the Stadium of Light.

[Andreos1]

Canny few posts on Facebook about the 78/78A going AWOL today. Any idea what was affecting it, as you wouldn't have thought it was in a GNR hot spot?

Saw/heard a handful between 1400 and 1500 - definitely not operating at their scheduled intervals.

[NK53 TKT]

I hate the Q3...

[omnicity4659]

I hate the Q3...

Seriously..? 

It's a bus route. Hardly your ex.

[LeeCalder]

PB0002400/576 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Heworth Interchange
Finish Point: Brockley Whins Metro
Via:
Service Number: 901
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 20-SEP-2015
Other Details: To run on 20 September 2015 only

PB0002400/577 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Heworth Interchange
Finish Point: South Shields, Keppel Street
Via:
Service Number: 900
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 20-SEP-2015
Other Details: To run on September 20 September 2015

[omnicity4659]

PB0002400/576 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Heworth Interchange
Finish Point: Brockley Whins Metro
Via:
Service Number: 901
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 20-SEP-2015
Other Details: To run on 20 September 2015 only

PB0002400/577 - GO NORTHERN LTD T/A GO NORTH EAST, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Heworth Interchange
Finish Point: South Shields, Keppel Street
Via:
Service Number: 900
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 20-SEP-2015
Other Details: To run on September 20 September 2015

See 'Upcoming Service Changes' thread...  

[Dan]

Volvo B10BLE 4843 has been withdrawn from service at Riverside.

Volvo B7TL 3967 and Volvo B10BLE 4916 at Riverside have gained front LED destinations (thus meaning that the former has a complete set of LEDs - the latter still retains flipdot side/rear).

[Michael]

Volvo B10BLE 4843 has been withdrawn from service at Riverside.

Volvo B7TL 3967 and Volvo B10BLE 4916 at Riverside have gained front LED destinations (thus meaning that the former has a complete set of LEDs - the latter still retains flipdot side/rear).

Are we sure?, its not going to pop up in service this week is it???, we know what this B10 can be like, its being getting withdrawn for the last 2 or so weeks  

[Dan]

Are we sure?, its not going to pop up in service this week is it???, we know what this B10 can be like, its being getting withdrawn for the last 2 or so weeks [emoji14] 

Well it's definitely parked up with the rest of the withdrawn B10s at Riverside..! Until they remove parts from it, I suppose it can remain as a last resort reserve.

[Michael]

Well it's definitely parked up with the rest of the withdrawn B10s at Riverside..! Until they remove parts from it, I suppose it can remain as a last resort reserve.

Oh well, its finally got withdrawn in a way. 

All the 1998 B10's withdrawn now... =(

[park5354]

Volvo B10BLE 4843 has been withdrawn from service at Riverside.

Volvo B7TL 3967 and Volvo B10BLE 4916 at Riverside have gained front LED destinations (thus meaning that the former has a complete set of LEDs - the latter still retains flipdot side/rear).

4940 would've been a better recipient of an LED front blind, instead of 4916.

Wonder if the Highwayman scanias have had the Destination displays sorted ?
Most now have non working side and rear displays, with some front/rear displays constantly flashing (4938, 4967 and 5218 spring to mind).

Many Riverside displays now also revert to idle when engine is switched off, meaning blank displays until the service is inputted again.

[NK53 TKT]

Well it's definitely parked up with the rest of the withdrawn B10s at Riverside..! Until they remove parts from it, I suppose it can remain as a last resort reserve.

How sad

[Dan]

4940 would've been a better recipient of an LED front blind, instead of 4916.

Wonder if the Highwayman scanias have had the Destination displays sorted ?
Most now have non working side and rear displays, with some front/rear displays constantly flashing (4938, 4967 and 5218 spring to mind).

Many Riverside displays now also revert to idle when engine is switched off, meaning blank displays until the service is inputted again.

No it wouldn't, as 4940 is gaining the full set of LED displays from 4841 (meaning that it'll have a colour front display). We have enough LED front destinations in withdrawn vehicles to allow all vehicles (excluding Tridents and Olympians) to be fitted with LED destinations, and you'll see the front flipdot destination displays being replaced over the next few weeks.

A temporary fix to get the front LED displays working (at the expense of flipdot side/rear not working) was created two weeks ago when we encountered some difficulties with the destination update. As we're proactive at Go North East (  ), the issues were fixed at the earliest opportunity: Saturday night. As for the displays constantly flashing - this relates to wrong switch settings being used on the rear displays previously, which again, was corrected at the weekend. If you spot any further issues, please do drop me a Private Message. Mind, Arriva has yet to fix their "Sapphire" 57-reg ADL Enviro400s which have the same issue - how long ago were services X21/X22 converted to Sapphire..?

As for 'idle' - this is required to allow destinations to change automatically on the Quaylink routes. Now we've brought in profiling, the next destination update (at the end of October for Riverside, at the end of this month for Hexham) will see the removal of 'idle' from all vehicles besides those vehicles with 144x19RN, 96x8 and 32x17 (primarily Quaylink, but also TEN and Tyne Tees Xpress) or 144x19, 96x18, 160x24 displays (Citylink)...

[citaro5284]

4940 would've been a better recipient of an LED front blind, instead of 4916.

Wonder if the Highwayman scanias have had the Destination displays sorted ?
Most now have non working side and rear displays, with some front/rear displays constantly flashing (4938, 4967 and 5218 spring to mind).

Many Riverside displays now also revert to idle when engine is switched off, meaning blank displays until the service is inputted again.

You have not seen Dan's spreadsheet of what blind is coming out of what and where it is destined for 

[Dan]

You have not seen Dan's spreadsheet of what blind is coming out of what and where it is destined for 

Haha... That top notch colour co-ordinated spreadsheet!

[S813 FVK]

Can't beat a good spreadsheet! I don't tend to use the forumlas on it though. Don't know how to do all the complicated ones though (can do -+*/)

[omnicity4659]

As for the displays constantly flashing - this relates to wrong switch settings being used on the rear displays previously, which again, was corrected at the weekend. If you spot any further issues, please do drop me a Private Message. Mind, Arriva has yet to fix their "Sapphire" 57-reg ADL Enviro400s which have the same issue - how long ago were services X21/X22 converted to Sapphire..?

The update to the displays for the Sapphire fleet were done in October 2014. This caused problems with the NSA monitors and the displays alike. A replacement update was sent to them.

The 57-reg batch didn't receive the revised update, as the problems were 'minor', but I've been told that they'll get fixed by the new year.

[Dan]

The 57-reg batch didn't receive the revised update, as the problems were 'minor', but I've been told that they'll get fixed by the new year.

Ludicrous - there's only nine of them.

[L469 YVK]

Ludicrous - there's only nine of them.

And that's why growth is slow on the X21 / X22 for. Perhaps if Arriva invested proper time and momey into their services like GNE instead of having suitable type shortages (Quorum etc) and and dodgy panels and displays, they'd see far more growth and custom.

[Malarkey]

And that's why growth is slow on the X21 / X22 for. Perhaps if Arriva invested proper time and momey into their services like GNE instead of having suitable type shortages (Quorum etc) and and dodgy panels and displays, they'd see far more growth and custom.

I Disagree, I think growth is slow on the X21/X22 due to that fact there is god knows how many Services running along the same corridor from Newcastle to Regent Centre.

As for Vehicle Types on Services to the Quorum, I seen an ALX400 and one of CGO Darts on the Quorum Express Services this morning, meanwhile I had a wonderful ride on one of the Wright Commanders even though it was packed and had a handful of standees, and I am sure those allocations were as a result of Vehicles being away for MAX Refurbishment.