(23 Jan 2016, 3:56 pm)Cock Robin wrote You're the one who's trying to be clever. And not just with me either. You're talking out your a*se. Why test a bus if its only been tested a month before just cos that's the date the bus that's withdrawn was due for test? So if you then transfer it to another depot do you change the date and do it early again. Waste of money when there's other things they could be spending it on.
(24 Jan 2016, 5:05 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote 1509 adding some normality to sapphire service 7 todayI heard that MAX 1416 was out on the Sapphire 7 today! What on earth is going on here today, can only assume two or more Sapphire Pulsars are not available today and they don't want to put the Enviro 400's out on the 19. Making a complete mockery of route branding.
(23 Jan 2016, 7:23 pm)tyresmoke wrote Each bus has to be tested every year, so these have to be spread across the year at each depot. You usually lose a bus for a week for preparation - test day at Stockton is on a Wednesday which usually sees one of our own, plus a vehicle from Redcar and two from Darlington all having MOT tests.
There are only around 50 weeks available to MOT test vehicles - with a fleet size of around 70 at Stockton, this means one or two are done each week. This means it has to be spread across the fleet so that we don't end up with 10 vehicles off in one week. I'd presume (I'm not 100%) that this means vehicles coming in will take the dates of vehicles leaving the fleet, to keep the yearly spread as close as possible to what it always has been.
(25 Jan 2016, 7:08 pm)passenger_10 wrote But what about used vehicles that enter the fleet or transfer between depots? A used bus coming into the fleet may be due its annual test in the days or weeks after it arrives, but the bus it's replacing may be on the schedule to be tested several months into the future. Presumably each bus's MOT only lasts for 12 months and you couldn't run a bus without a valid MOT just to fit the depot's engineering schedule.
I would imagine a second hand bus arriving would just have to continue on its old schedule so that its MOT doesn't lapse, or pass its MOT before it enters service, depending on circumstances at the depot with engineering / service requirements?
Clearly in the reverse situation where the bus being replaced is shortly due its test and the bus coming in still has several months to run on its MOT this isn't an issue, other than the potential cost of preparing and testing a bus soon after its already been tested.
(25 Jan 2016, 7:41 pm)Mark wrote Vehicle movements have their MOT date taken into account when they are planned for transfer or withdrawal. In the case of Stockton, the outgoing SB120 buses were in most cases withdrawn in the order their MOT was due, although a couple of them might have been due to major work being required which weren't cost effective to repair when there were other vehicles that could temporarily remain in place.
It is known that new vehicles can have their first MOT months ahead of their expiry, but when you get large batches launched (e.g. the fourteen Streetlites at Redcar), these need to be planned this way to ensure all are completed within their first year.
When a transferred vehicle is brought into a depot, it will be seen which is the nearest space to it's test expiry to be allocated. If the available space was many months early, they would simply move other vehicles forward a week or two on the plan to create a gap for it to be sensibly placed in the MOT order. Depots like Stockton have an advantage with this as the plan covers two vehicles a week, with gaps where only one is up for test. This means it is easier to fit vehicles in on quieter weeks and swap around when only one vehicle is up for test.
The only issue is when incoming vehicles (especially new ones) are delayed. This can lead to a vehicle being tested and only lasting a few weeks before withdrawal. The only way round this might see a temporary loan from another depot to cover rather than spending best part of a week preparing a bus for test.
I think this covers the points raised. Hope this makes sense!
(26 Jan 2016, 5:57 pm)cbma06 wrote spare sapphire pulsar on service 23 today.
x12 max double decker on service 57A, at least 2 deckers on 57A today, before arriva changed the route it seemed that it was always solo operated before.
(25 Jan 2016, 7:41 pm)Mark wrote Vehicle movements have their MOT date taken into account when they are planned for transfer or withdrawal. In the case of Stockton, the outgoing SB120 buses were in most cases withdrawn in the order their MOT was due, although a couple of them might have been due to major work being required which weren't cost effective to repair when there were other vehicles that could temporarily remain in place.
It is known that new vehicles can have their first MOT months ahead of their expiry, but when you get large batches launched (e.g. the fourteen Streetlites at Redcar), these need to be planned this way to ensure all are completed within their first year.
When a transferred vehicle is brought into a depot, it will be seen which is the nearest space to it's test expiry to be allocated. If the available space was many months early, they would simply move other vehicles forward a week or two on the plan to create a gap for it to be sensibly placed in the MOT order. Depots like Stockton have an advantage with this as the plan covers two vehicles a week, with gaps where only one is up for test. This means it is easier to fit vehicles in on quieter weeks and swap around when only one vehicle is up for test.
The only issue is when incoming vehicles (especially new ones) are delayed. This can lead to a vehicle being tested and only lasting a few weeks before withdrawal. The only way round this might see a temporary loan from another depot to cover rather than spending best part of a week preparing a bus for test.
I think this covers the points raised. Hope this makes sense!
(27 Jan 2016, 6:21 pm)S813 FVK wrote 7491 on 306: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gpr_bus_ph...otostream/
(27 Jan 2016, 6:31 pm)S813 FVK wrote Ah. I thought it was still the pulsar. My apologies!
(27 Jan 2016, 10:53 am)Kuyoyo wrote Now joined by 1407 on the 1050 5 replacing 1512
Redcar meanwhile have 1566 on 22/64
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Arriva North East 1407 (NK09 BPV) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr![[Image: 24569100791_8ff24d22ef_c.jpg]](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1642/24569100791_8ff24d22ef_c.jpg)
Arriva North East 1566 (NK64 EFC) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr
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