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Andreos1

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15 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm #461

http://m.northernrail.org/news/7842

Details of the offers and compensation available on the Tyne Valley Line.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

15 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm #461

http://m.northernrail.org/news/7842

Details of the offers and compensation available on the Tyne Valley Line.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Adrian

9,583

15 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm #462

(15 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm)Andreos1 http://m.northernrail.org/news/7842

Details of the offers and compensation available on the Tyne Valley Line.

The compensation offer is piss poor really. It won't nearly cover it for most of the users.

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Adrian

15 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm #462

(15 Feb 2016, 12:48 pm)Andreos1 http://m.northernrail.org/news/7842

Details of the offers and compensation available on the Tyne Valley Line.

The compensation offer is piss poor really. It won't nearly cover it for most of the users.

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Andreos1

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15 Feb 2016, 2:23 pm #463

(15 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm)Adrian The compensation offer is piss poor really. It won't nearly cover it for most of the users.

I was expecting more like.
Mind it is a lot more than was dished out to those rail users affected by the flooding in Cumbria - I think they got a day ticket!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

15 Feb 2016, 2:23 pm #463

(15 Feb 2016, 1:10 pm)Adrian The compensation offer is piss poor really. It won't nearly cover it for most of the users.

I was expecting more like.
Mind it is a lot more than was dished out to those rail users affected by the flooding in Cumbria - I think they got a day ticket!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Michael

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15 Feb 2016, 5:34 pm #464

Incidents on Teesside & County Durham
1 min ·
Northern Rail - Due to signalling problems between ‪#‎Sunderland‬ and ‪#‎Hartlepool‬ trains have to run at reduced speeds.
Services may be delayed.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

15 Feb 2016, 5:34 pm #464

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

biglugs@yahoo.com

1,506

17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm #465

is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

4842
Best bus ever

biglugs@yahoo.com

17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm #465

is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

4842
Best bus ever

~~DanPicken~~

Banned

2,177

17 Feb 2016, 10:17 pm #466

(17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

No, it will take a few years.

DanPicken

17 Feb 2016, 10:17 pm #466

(17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

No, it will take a few years.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm #467

(17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

The 142s will be withdrawn in 2018/2019
The 144s and 153s are being returned to the lessor ( Porterbrook ) in 2017

A batch of Class 158s are transferring to Heaton in 2018/2019 Refurbished to " Northern Connect " Standard
Aswell as a batch of other units ( Either 156s or 150s )

Edited 17 Feb 2016, 10:29 pm by South Tyne Lad.

South Tyne Lad

17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm #467

(17 Feb 2016, 10:09 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com is it true when arriva take the franchise they will straight away replace class 142s

Michael

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17 Feb 2016, 10:39 pm #468

I'm just glad the Pacers (142's?) will be finally withdrawn... haha

I hate them so much.

Edited 17 Feb 2016, 10:41 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

17 Feb 2016, 10:39 pm #468

I'm just glad the Pacers (142's?) will be finally withdrawn... haha

I hate them so much.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

S813 FVK

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17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm #469

(17 Feb 2016, 10:39 pm)Michael I'm just glad the Pacers (142's?) will be finally withdrawn... haha

I hate them so much.

Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

Edited 17 Feb 2016, 10:48 pm by S813 FVK.

S813 FVK

17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm #469

(17 Feb 2016, 10:39 pm)Michael I'm just glad the Pacers (142's?) will be finally withdrawn... haha

I hate them so much.

Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

Michael

19,173

17 Feb 2016, 10:49 pm #470

(17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm)S813 FVK Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

Cheers, honestly i have no idea, i know nothing about trains.

I should though.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Michael

17 Feb 2016, 10:49 pm #470

(17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm)S813 FVK Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

Cheers, honestly i have no idea, i know nothing about trains.

I should though.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

biglugs@yahoo.com

1,506

17 Feb 2016, 10:57 pm #471

(17 Feb 2016, 10:49 pm)Michael Cheers, honestly i have no idea, i know nothing about trains.

I should though.

I'm told 144 are to remain as they are DDA

4842
Best bus ever

biglugs@yahoo.com

17 Feb 2016, 10:57 pm #471

(17 Feb 2016, 10:49 pm)Michael Cheers, honestly i have no idea, i know nothing about trains.

I should though.

I'm told 144 are to remain as they are DDA

4842
Best bus ever

South Tyne Lad

1,777

17 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm #472

(17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm)S813 FVK Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

143 and 144s are Pacers.
143s used to be based round here in the late 1980s until a swap with Devon and Wales brought us the 142s.

South Tyne Lad

17 Feb 2016, 11:05 pm #472

(17 Feb 2016, 10:47 pm)S813 FVK Yes, the pacers up here are 142s.

Don't 143s and 144s also fall into the 'pacer' category? (completely irrelevant, i know).

143 and 144s are Pacers.
143s used to be based round here in the late 1980s until a swap with Devon and Wales brought us the 142s.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

17 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm #473

(17 Feb 2016, 10:57 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com I'm told 144 are to remain as they are DDA

Only the modified 144e Demonstrator normally found round Sheffield is PRM-TSI ( DDA for Trains )
But no more 144s are going to be modified and as such will be returned to the lessor in 2017

South Tyne Lad

17 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm #473

(17 Feb 2016, 10:57 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com I'm told 144 are to remain as they are DDA

Only the modified 144e Demonstrator normally found round Sheffield is PRM-TSI ( DDA for Trains )
But no more 144s are going to be modified and as such will be returned to the lessor in 2017

Bus_User

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18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am #474

(17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm)South Tyne Lad The 142s will be withdrawn in 2018/2019
The 144s and 153s are being returned to the lessor ( Porterbrook ) in 2017

A batch of Class 158s are transferring to Heaton in 2018/2019 Refurbished to " Northern Connect " Standard
Aswell as a batch of other units ( Either 156s or 150s )

First I heard about the 144's being returned to the leasing company? Have you got a souce for this? As for the 153's, I have heard they might be leaving Northern in the near future but the main idea is for them to be converted back to 155's as the leasing company got no plans to make 153's DDA compliant.

I'll be surprised if 144's are leaving Northern in 2017, there be no new trains until 2018 at least and they are already short on spare stock so I just can't see that happening, be uproar if that is the case.

On the subject of pacers, I must be the only one to like them although I accept they are not up to standard for your everyday passenger. Will kinda miss them when they go.

Bus_User

18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am #474

(17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm)South Tyne Lad The 142s will be withdrawn in 2018/2019
The 144s and 153s are being returned to the lessor ( Porterbrook ) in 2017

A batch of Class 158s are transferring to Heaton in 2018/2019 Refurbished to " Northern Connect " Standard
Aswell as a batch of other units ( Either 156s or 150s )

~~DanPicken~~

Banned

2,177

18 Feb 2016, 7:28 am #475

(17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm)South Tyne Lad The 142s will be withdrawn in 2018/2019

The 144s and 153s are being returned to the lessor ( Porterbrook ) in 2017

A batch of Class 158s are transferring to Heaton in 2018/2019 Refurbished to " Northern Connect " Standard

Aswell as a batch of other units ( Either 156s or 150s )

I've also heard we're getting some 166 from Great Western and some 170 from Scotrail.

DanPicken

18 Feb 2016, 7:28 am #475

(17 Feb 2016, 10:28 pm)South Tyne Lad The 142s will be withdrawn in 2018/2019

The 144s and 153s are being returned to the lessor ( Porterbrook ) in 2017

A batch of Class 158s are transferring to Heaton in 2018/2019 Refurbished to " Northern Connect " Standard

Aswell as a batch of other units ( Either 156s or 150s )

I've also heard we're getting some 166 from Great Western and some 170 from Scotrail.

AXG675

18 Feb 2016, 11:07 am #476

(18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am)Bus_User First I heard about the 144's being returned to the leasing company? Have you got a souce for this? As for the 153's, I have heard they might be leaving Northern in the near future but the main idea is for them to be converted back to 155's as the leasing company got no plans to make 153's DDA compliant.

I'll be surprised if 144's are leaving Northern in 2017, there be no new trains until 2018 at least and they are already short on spare stock so I just can't see that happening, be uproar if that is the case.

On the subject of pacers, I must be the only one to like them although I accept they are not up to standard for your everyday passenger. Will kinda miss them when they go.

Glad I am not the only one who loves and appreciates 142s. For twenty years they have hurtled past my old South Bank 'Penthouse'. They must be a nightmare to maintain by now but for the best ride north of Alton Towers they take some beating! Alighting from boring 220s, 185s, 43s & 91s at Darlington you knew you were nearly home as the tattered 'beasties' overrevved out onto the Saltburn line screaching in torturous abando at the too tight curves. Home cannot be far! Will sadly miss them and do not suppose any will be preserved except on videos.

AXG675

18 Feb 2016, 11:07 am #476

(18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am)Bus_User First I heard about the 144's being returned to the leasing company? Have you got a souce for this? As for the 153's, I have heard they might be leaving Northern in the near future but the main idea is for them to be converted back to 155's as the leasing company got no plans to make 153's DDA compliant.

I'll be surprised if 144's are leaving Northern in 2017, there be no new trains until 2018 at least and they are already short on spare stock so I just can't see that happening, be uproar if that is the case.

On the subject of pacers, I must be the only one to like them although I accept they are not up to standard for your everyday passenger. Will kinda miss them when they go.

Kuyoyo

6,853

18 Feb 2016, 11:24 am #477

(17 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm)South Tyne Lad Only the modified 144e Demonstrator normally found round Sheffield is PRM-TSI ( DDA for Trains )
But no more 144s are going to be modified and as such will be returned to the lessor in 2017

No more 144 will be modified for Northern. That doesn't mean they won't be modified for anybody else. Don't forget that we aren't the only ones that have 142s that need replacing.

Kuyoyo

18 Feb 2016, 11:24 am #477

(17 Feb 2016, 11:06 pm)South Tyne Lad Only the modified 144e Demonstrator normally found round Sheffield is PRM-TSI ( DDA for Trains )
But no more 144s are going to be modified and as such will be returned to the lessor in 2017

No more 144 will be modified for Northern. That doesn't mean they won't be modified for anybody else. Don't forget that we aren't the only ones that have 142s that need replacing.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

19 Feb 2016, 12:00 am #478

(18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am)Bus_User First I heard about the 144's being returned to the leasing company? Have you got a souce for this? As for the 153's, I have heard they might be leaving Northern in the near future but the main idea is for them to be converted back to 155's as the leasing company got no plans to make 153's DDA compliant.

I'll be surprised if 144's are leaving Northern in 2017, there be no new trains until 2018 at least and they are already short on spare stock so I just can't see that happening, be uproar if that is the case.

On the subject of pacers, I must be the only one to like them although I accept they are not up to standard for your everyday passenger. Will kinda miss them when they go.

Yes I have got a source from the " Northern Franchise Awarded to Arriva " Thread in RailUK Forums They discuss what Arriva have confirmed will happen in the Franchise.

GWR 150s, 5 Scotrail 156s and a dozen Scotrail 170s are transferring to Arriva Rail North in 2017, This will in turn release the 144s and 153s to the Lessor.
New stock is indeed being delivered from late 2018 which will replace Sprinters in the North West and Yorkshire which makes them Available to use in the North East, Replacing the 142s all over Northern.

That idea was brought up by Lesaing Company " Porterbrook " which owns the 153s but that idea was rejected by Arriva and as such the 153s are returning to the lessor in 2017

South Tyne Lad

19 Feb 2016, 12:00 am #478

(18 Feb 2016, 1:04 am)Bus_User First I heard about the 144's being returned to the leasing company? Have you got a souce for this? As for the 153's, I have heard they might be leaving Northern in the near future but the main idea is for them to be converted back to 155's as the leasing company got no plans to make 153's DDA compliant.

I'll be surprised if 144's are leaving Northern in 2017, there be no new trains until 2018 at least and they are already short on spare stock so I just can't see that happening, be uproar if that is the case.

On the subject of pacers, I must be the only one to like them although I accept they are not up to standard for your everyday passenger. Will kinda miss them when they go.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

19 Feb 2016, 12:02 am #479

(18 Feb 2016, 7:28 am)DanPicken I've also heard we're getting some 166 from Great Western and some 170 from Scotrail.

The GWR 165/1 and 166s are transferring to Bristol Routes after Thames Valley Electrification.

Arriva Rail North are receiving a few 170s displaced from Abellio Scotrail once the EGIP Emus are in Service.

South Tyne Lad

19 Feb 2016, 12:02 am #479

(18 Feb 2016, 7:28 am)DanPicken I've also heard we're getting some 166 from Great Western and some 170 from Scotrail.

South Tyne Lad

1,777

19 Feb 2016, 12:05 am #480

(18 Feb 2016, 11:24 am)Kuyoyo No more 144 will be modified for Northern. That doesn't mean they won't be modified for anybody else. Don't forget that we aren't the only ones that have 142s that need replacing.

Arriva Trains Wales are the only TOC left with 142s after Arriva Rail North and they are believed to be replacing theres with Class 150s from GWR which in turn were displaced by class 165/1s and 166s from Thames Valley Electrification

South Tyne Lad

19 Feb 2016, 12:05 am #480

(18 Feb 2016, 11:24 am)Kuyoyo No more 144 will be modified for Northern. That doesn't mean they won't be modified for anybody else. Don't forget that we aren't the only ones that have 142s that need replacing.

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