why not send the E400 to south shields and send the E300 from south shields to Stockton to replace some of 53,o3 man from Stockton south shields need E400 more than Stockton do.

(08 May 2016, 7:44 pm)Michael wrote But Stockton won't need any Enviro 400's soon, don't see the point in sending loads to Stockton just for them to sit in the depot and only used once a day.

They should go on a service which needs them, mostly Newcastle services.

Even the E1/2/6 but it seems unlikely as they're only really busy during Spring/Summer.

I won't be surprised if there will be an increase in passengers on the E2 (towards Sunderland) and the E1 (towards South Shields) when services 18/19 are rerouted. When not needed on the X34 an E400 is regularly seen on the "E" Services.

I wonder whether there will be more decker's loaned to South Shields/Sunderland for the Air Show (assuming the ADL E400 MMCs arrive and enter service by then)?

(08 May 2016, 7:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Stockton don't have any school services come September. The E400s are said to be for front-line services that require additional capacity on journeys.

Ye, which is the reason i said it would be pointless to send them but that went out the window, haha

Reason is.. I don't really know Stockton so i wasn't sure so i just went ahead and took a guess .


How often would the E400's be used at Stockton on front-line services?

Why not some more double deckers to South Shields to be used on E1/2/6 services in stead of the 27's. Regards Robin

(08 May 2016, 8:59 pm)Robin Tait wrote Why not some more double deckers to South Shields to be used on E1/2/6 services in stead of the 27's. Regards Robin

5 could transfer to shields from Newcastle displacing 27723-27 to slatyford allowing 5 mans to be withdrawn

The E300 no 27's are really good buses for services in Stockton and Middlesbrough road. I think and E300 no 24's are good buses to.

Let's hope it happens.Regards Robin goodnight

E400s on the Es would be great, Though a mixed allocation doesn't always solve the capacity problem and some MANs in Newcastle could be replaced with these E400s instead of ex Shields E300s which someone suggested above.
Best place for them in my opinion is to keep them in Newcastle and boost capacity on other routes not receiving investment.

What's the usual crack with buses being transferred to other depots with Stagecoach? Is it just other depots in the north east or can it be countrywide?

I remember when the Stagecoach in Cumbria's Carlisle-based Enviro 200s were moved, original rumours dictated they'd all be moved to other Cumbria & North Lancashire depots (ie Lancaster, Kendal etc) however they eventually went to Plymouth - a bit of a jump!!

Will this be the case for the Newcastle E400s or is the situation somewhat fluid at the moment?


Sean

(08 May 2016, 7:55 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Stockton don't have any school services come September. The E400s are said to be for front-line services that require additional capacity on journeys.

i'd like to see the decerks do peak times on 36 when i get to and from work most of the time it's packed

Will the E400MMCs run on the X63 as it DOESN'T interwork with the 62/63

(09 May 2016, 6:13 am)NK53 TKT wrote Will the E400MMCs run on the X63 as it DOESN'T interwork with the 62/63

I think the 62/63 interwork with the X63 at peak times, however I may be wrong.

(08 May 2016, 11:29 pm)northern156 wrote What's the usual crack with buses being transferred to other depots with Stagecoach? Is it just other depots in the north east or can it be countrywide?

I remember when the Stagecoach in Cumbria's Carlisle-based Enviro 200s were moved, original rumours dictated they'd all be moved to other Cumbria & North Lancashire depots (ie Lancaster, Kendal etc) however they eventually went to Plymouth - a bit of a jump!!

Will this be the case for the Newcastle E400s or is the situation somewhat fluid at the moment?


Sean

I've heard that a handful of E400's will be transferring to Cumbria for the Lake service's.

Ok, several things to somewhat answer here:

RE. Vehicle transfers
It's random, however very rarely has any cascades as a result of new vehicles resulted in the cascading of vehicles outside the North East region (the Scania Gas Buses in 2014 and South Shields' E200s last year being the most recent examples). Usually, stock is retained within the North East and reallocated where needed.

RE: E400MMCs
Unless things have changed, there used to be an X63 working that worked onto 62/63 on a evening. If that remains, I wouldn't be surprised if, for sakes of retaining the same standard of vehicle used in the 62/63, Walkergate's spare E400MMC isn't allocated to that board.

RE: E400s to North West
It is currently going aroind (from a well known and trusted poster on other forums) that Cumbria and North Lancashire are due to receive cascaded E400s to ultimately replace Olympians. Nothing at present suggests that any of the Newcastle examples will be heading that way however.

(08 May 2016, 9:17 pm)glen wrote The E300 no 27's are really good buses for services in Stockton and Middlesbrough road. I think and E300 no 24's are good buses to.

They're rubbish. Standing loads even on Sundays.

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Ok, several things to somewhat answer here:

RE. Vehicle transfers
It's random, however very rarely has any cascades as a result of new vehicles resulted in the cascading of vehicles outside the North East region (the Scania Gas Buses in 2014 and South Shields' E200s last year being the most recent examples). Usually, stock is retained within the North East and reallocated where needed.



Darts went to the the South East and South West last year.
We have received B10Ms, MAN ALX300s, Darts and deckers transferred from other areas in the past.

Enviro 400's to Stockton ey, never thought I'd see the day. Should be interesting!

Is there any news about 35187 is it to be repaired or sold for scrap. Regards Robin

(08 May 2016, 12:54 pm)AIG20 wrote Oh Dear! It seems the Ex Scotland ADL E400s aren't coping very well on the X34... - https://www.flickr.com/photos/57722398@N03/26232897124/

I assume that the Pointer Dart, looking more ready for the scrapyard, is 34401. I won't be surprised if it is being used for "component recovery" or for training purposes.

Image owned by Flickr user "Steve Cardwell".

It was recovered because of a flat front tyre

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Davie. Is 34401 losing bits of all ready have seen photo of 19645 being brought back to depot by break down truck. Is 34401 to be scraped on sight.

(10 May 2016, 8:51 pm)Robin Tait wrote Davie. Is 34401 losing bits of all ready have seen photo of 19645 being brought back to depot by break down truck. Is 34401 to be scraped on sight.

34401 has nothing removed. It currently has not MOT or tax.

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(10 May 2016, 8:51 pm)Robin Tait wrote Davie. Is 34401 losing bits of all ready have seen photo of 19645 being brought back to depot by break down truck. Is 34401 to be scraped on sight.

It's been repainted since it was last used!

What would happen if they tried to use 34401 on service!

(11 May 2016, 7:38 pm)Robin Tait wrote What would happen if they tried to use 34401 on service!

They won't try to use it because it has no tax or MOT

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(11 May 2016, 7:38 pm)Robin Tait wrote What would happen if they tried to use 34401 on service!

It would be illegal, Its not taxed or MOTd as posted above by MrNut85


EDIT MrNut beat me too it

Reported by 29721 on the 'South Yorkshire Transport Forum', unique MAN 18.240/East Lancs Kinetic 22508-15 (SF56 FKL/M/N/O/P/R/S/T) are due to transfer to the North East with the service changes down in the Dearne Valley (and Doncaster) from Sunday.

Stagecoach in Yorkshire 22510 (SF56 FKN) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

Shall we begin the guessing game of which depot gets the delights........

witch depot are going to be coming to the north east or don't there know yet.

(13 May 2016, 5:58 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Reported by 29721 on the 'South Yorkshire Transport Forum', unique MAN 18.240/East Lancs Kinetic 22508-15 (SF56 FKL/M/N/O/P/R/S/T) are due to transfer to the North East with the service changes down in the Dearne Valley (and Doncaster) from Sunday.

Stagecoach in Yorkshire 22510 (SF56 FKN) by Tony Kuy, on Flickr

Shall we begin the guessing game of which depot gets the delights........

Doubt it would be Sunderland, Newcastle or Shields, so it'll likely to be Stockton or Hartlepool.

(13 May 2016, 6:11 pm)Michael wrote Doubt it would be Sunderland, Newcastle or Shields, so it'll likely to be Stockton or Hartlepool.

5x to slatyford for 100
2x to shields for x20
Hope that happens

(13 May 2016, 6:19 pm)biglugs@yahoo.com wrote 5x to slatyford for 100
2x to shields for x20
Hope that happens

What would be the point in putting them on the 100?