Are Deckers not suitable for the 58 for some reason? As I don't see why they didn't buy B9's? When they've upgraded a lot of routes for Deckers recently (Red Arrows, TEN, Fab 56, Cobalt Clipper).

Pretty sure there's two low bridges unsuitable for deckers near Heworth?

Hasn't stopped Gateshead from using a Vyking and a Palatine 2 on the 58 when an Artic has been off the Road.

Hasn't stopped Gateshead from using a Vyking and a Palatine 2 on the 58 when an Artic has been off the Road.

That's a point. My avatar is an Olympian on the 58.

That's a point. My avatar is an Olympian on the 58.

I reckon they should have had a 15 minute frequency from Hadrian Park to Heworth, then a 7-8 minute frequency Newcastle to Heworth. Would have eased pressure on the Versas.

Versa 5379 on the 58 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/nerbp/10859501226/

At least they didn't go with the 'easy transfer to a bus to Newcastle from Gateshead' route

I reckon they should have had a 15 minute frequency from Hadrian Park to Heworth, then a 7-8 minute frequency Newcastle to Heworth. Would have eased pressure on the Versas.

I have put my Suggestion on the Route Suggestion Page

That's excellent news, Citylink Passengers will be happy.

No we won't! lol

What good is a shiny new bus with wifi and next stop annoucements if we can't get on it in the first place, (because its full).
There were bendy buses passing me last christmas on the coast road not stopping until they reached sandyford road in town because they were jammed packed.
I remember when when the weather was bad, (maybe more people were using buses than taking the car, or maybe other services were affected), but on several days 2 bendy buses were running together, and both were very crowded.

I'll be based back in town over the coming weeks, for several days each week right up until new year, so I'll keep an eye on how they cope.

As already mentioned, they should have got geminis or something

That's a point. My avatar is an Olympian on the 58.

If you're been sarcastic, I can't see avatar's on my iPad as I prefer the mobile site of NEB, the desktop version is far to cluttered!

My point was, been from Durham I don't know about Gateshead and any low bridges etc. so was simply asking if anyone knew why such a bizare decision may have been made. A lot of routes have been upgraded to Deckers from singles Ten, Red Arrows, Fab 56, Cobalt Clipper so why not the 58 when they've had bigger buses- the Bendys - Deckers seem like the logical replacements.

I truly feel that the Versa's on the 58 are going to be the Omnicities on the 21 all over again

If you're been sarcastic, I can't see avatar's on my iPad as I prefer the mobile site of NEB, the desktop version is far to cluttered!

My point was, been from Durham I don't know about Gateshead and any low bridges etc. so was simply asking if anyone knew why such a bizare decision may have been made. A lot of routes have been upgraded to Deckers from singles Ten, Red Arrows, Fab 56, Cobalt Clipper so why not the 58 when they've had bigger buses- the Bendys - Deckers seem like the logical replacements.

I wasn't being sarcastic, I was simply correcting my previous post. I had thought the low bridges in Heworth would have caused a problem, but as Adam pointed out, he'd seen deckers work that route.

You really need to stop thinking everyone on this board is having a go at you.

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=citylink%2058

The above link shows "Everything" that has appeared on the 58 in recent years, Includes B7 and B9 Geminis, Along with Vykings and Palatines and many more.

Pretty sure there's two low bridges unsuitable for deckers near Heworth?

I assume you mean the bridge on Colegate? It's not a low bridge. I honestly think Versas on the 58 will be a nightmare. They should re-route a 309/310 through Hadrian Park and up the frequency on the Newcastle to Heworth section.

310 would seem to be the more likely choice to be rerouted through Hadrian Park as these do seem to have a long layover at North Shields.

Boxing Day Timetables now available - http://www.simplygo.com/news/christmas-a...buses-2013

Boxing Day Timetables now available - http://www.simplygo.com/news/christmas-a...buses-2013

Every 15 minutes for the 42? Seems abit much considering it isn't even that frequent on a Sunday any more and most services are running a Skelton service.

Every 15 minutes for the 42? Seems abit much considering it isn't even that frequent on a Sunday any more and most services are running a Skelton service.

While I do agree with what you're saying - is it not to make up for the loss of the other services on the Sunderland - Ryhope corridor? I appreciate it's got nothing on the Durham Road (Gateshead) corridor, but still is a pretty good one at that.

Trying to download file and not having much joy.

Can someone paste the services onto here please?

I have a feeling there may be discontent on the streets of Fencehouses AGAIN... :p

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Trying to download file and not having much joy.

Can someone paste the services onto here please?

I have a feeling there may be discontent on the streets of Fencehouses AGAIN... :p

Services 2A/2C - Every 20 minutes combined
Service 4 - Every 20 minutes
Service 9 - Every 30 minutes
Services 10A/10B - Every 15 minutes combined
Service 20 - Every 30 minutes
Service 21 - Every 10 minutes to Chester-le-Street, every 30 minutes to Durham.
Service 26 - Every 30 minutes
Service 27 - Every 20 minutes
Services 35B/35C - Every 30 minutes combined
Service 42 - Every 15 minutes
Services 43/44 - Every 30 minutes combined
Service 47 - Every 30 minutes
Services 49/49B - Every 15 minutes combined
Service 51 - Every 20 minutes
Service 52 - Every 20 minutes
Service 53 - Every 20 minutes
Service 54 - Every 20 minutes
Service 56 - Every 20 minutes
Service 58 - Every 15 minutes to Newcastle, every 30 minutes to Hadrian Park
Service 60 - Every 30 minutes
Service 88 - Every 30 minutes
Service 97 - Every 30 minutes
Services 309/310 - Every 15 minutes combined
Service X1 - Every 20 minutes
Service X31 - Every hour between Newcastle and Stanley, with three journeys running to Lanchester (arriving 1529, 1819 and 1829)
Service X66 - Frequent service
Service X40 - Every 20 minutes for a limited time before/after the match.
Service X50 - Every 12 minutes

Assumed depot workings:
Deptford
Gateshead
Chester-le-Street

Service 88 looks like it could interwork with the 35B/C (in which case would be worked by Deptford), but it could also be standalone and be operated by worked by Gateshead.
Service 47 was operated by Chester-le-Street last year, and one would assume it would be worked from Chester-le-Street again this year.

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Cheers Tom.

A few areas not having a service and others having quite a frequent one with 2-3 different services...
Hmmm...

Cheers Tom.

A few areas not having a service and others having quite a frequent one with 2-3 different services...
Hmmm...

I think it's disgusting that North Tyneside (more so Wallsend area) doesn't have a service!

No service for Fence Houses either

Services 2A/2C - Every 20 minutes combined
Service 4 - Every 20 minutes
Service 9 - Every 30 minutes
Services 10A/10B - Every 15 minutes combined
Service 20 - Every 30 minutes
Service 21 - Every 10 minutes to Chester-le-Street, every 30 minutes to Durham.
Service 26 - Every 30 minutes
Service 27 - Every 20 minutes
Services 35B/35C - Every 30 minutes combined
Service 42 - Every 15 minutes
Services 43/44 - Every 30 minutes combined
Service 47 - Every 30 minutes
Services 49/49B - Every 15 minutes combined
Service 51 - Every 20 minutes
Service 52 - Every 20 minutes
Service 53 - Every 20 minutes
Service 54 - Every 20 minutes
Service 56 - Every 20 minutes
Service 58 - Every 15 minutes to Newcastle, every 30 minutes to Hadrian Park
Service 60 - Every 30 minutes
Service 88 - Every 30 minutes
Service 97 - Every 30 minutes
Services 309/310 - Every 15 minutes combined
Service X1 - Every 20 minutes
Service X31 - Every hour between Newcastle and Stanley, with three journeys running to Lanchester (arriving 1529, 1819 and 1829)
Service X66 - Frequent service
Service X40 - Every 20 minutes for a limited time before/after the match.
Service X50 - Every 12 minutes

Assumed depot workings:
Deptford
Gateshead
Chester-le-Street

Service 88 looks like it could interwork with the 35B/C (in which case would be worked by Deptford), but it could also be standalone and be operated by worked by Gateshead.
Service 47 was operated by Chester-le-Street last year, and one would assume it would be worked from Chester-le-Street again this year.

Edited with a lovely colourful little list for you all! :p

I think it's disgusting that North Tyneside (more so Wallsend area) doesn't have a service!

No service for Fence Houses either

Not sure who makes these decisions, but there are some poor ones (again).

A town the size of Wallsend surely deserves a service?
It is certainly more populous than Herrington Burn, that will have 5 services an hour

I think it's disgusting that North Tyneside (more so Wallsend area) doesn't have a service!

Are these just GNE services, Wallsend might be covered by Stagecoach.

Not sure who makes these decisions, but there are some poor ones (again).

A town the size of Wallsend surely deserves a service?
It is certainly more populous than Herrington Burn, that will have 5 services an hour

Yeah! - I'd imagine the Coaster would have been busy? Serves several popular areas of North Tyneside. North Shields-Newcastle would probably be a more suitable option.

Yeah! - I'd imagine the Coaster would have been busy? Serves several popular areas of North Tyneside. North Shields-Newcastle would probably be a more suitable option.

That's the thing.
Having a 'through' service would work. If people get on in Wallsend, fantastic.
If they don't, there will be passengers from points previous and beyond the point.

Fatfield is well served by three frequent services too!

That's the thing.
Having a 'through' service would work. If people get on in Wallsend, fantastic.
If they don't, there will be passengers from points previous and beyond the point.

Fatfield is well served by three frequent services too!

Yep! - Boxing Day is more or less a similar day to a Sunday. Last week, a 1A was carrying a full load - I'd imagine it would be a similar story on a Boxing Day.

Yep! - Boxing Day is more or less a similar day to a Sunday. Last week, a 1A was carrying a full load - I'd imagine it would be a similar story on a Boxing Day.

Yet just a few miles up the road from Wallsend, the Coast Road has the 58 and 309/310 running every 15 mins each.
Why not stick the 1 on, between Newcastle and North Shields to offer an alternative, but one which serves a bigger population?

Aren't Go North East usually the only company who provide commercially ran services on Boxing day? Last year at least, all of Stagecoach's services on Boxing day were funded by Nexus, admittedly a few of Go North East's were too. It seems a bit harsh suggesting that Go North East need to provide more services, when in reality neither Arriva or Stagecoach actually run services on a commercial basis on the day.

Totally agree. I am lead to believe it is the same this year, all of the other services not listed by GNE are funded by Nexus.