So you’d halve the service between Byker and Cobalt via Wallsend? No.

Yes but it'd take longer by 15 mins or so

That’s infinitely preferable to unnecessarily halving the service between Byker and Wallsend, for which there is no commercial justification for.

10/11 South Shields to heworth,extended from jarrow bus station ,Albert rd,black rd,argyle st,station rd,Victoria rd West,burnheads rd,Crawley Ave,Victoria rd West,bill quay,pelaw heworth.this would dive residents of Hebburn quay area and Crawley Ave area a new link to heworth and beyond.every 30 mins day time, hourly after 6pm.

New route
41
Throckley
Walbottle campus
Lemington road ends
West road
Denton burn
City centre
Byker
Walkergate metro
Wallsend
Howdon
North shields
Every 15 minutes

X41
Throckley
A69
West road
Denton burn
City centre
Byker
Non stop via Walkergate metro
Wallsend
Non stop via ridley avenue
North shields
Every 15 minutes
Services will terminate & start outside of dhillons chippy and will swich at Throckley so the 41 will becone the X41 and the X41 will become the 41 so they are in the right direction as the 41 will arrive & depart towards/from walbottle campus and the X41 will depart & past heddon on the wall but won't take the heddon on the wall turn & will take the A69 turn

15 South Shields - Horsley Hill - Harton - Simonide - York avenue - Jarrow bus station - Royal quays -North Shields
Will operate every half an hour mon-sat daytime. and 1 hourly on evenings and sundays..
15A South shields - Horsley Hill - Harton - Simonside - York avenue - Jarrow bus station - Tyne tunnel trading estate - Silverlink - Cobalt - Northumberland park int
Will operate at half hour frequencies on all daytimes except sundays. The route will operate on Sundays until 5PM at hourly frequencies. Mon-sat evenings will be on hourly frequencies.
15X South shields - Horsley Hill - Harton - Simonside - York avenue - Jarrow bus station - NON STOPPING - Silverlink - Cobalt
Peak service only on Mon-Fri. 2x in morning and 3x evenings at half hourly frequencies.
The routes will take new ADL enviro 200MMCs with USBs. They will take 9 route sub-branded (8x with 15/15A and 1 with 15X). Will take 1 spare vehicle too. The buses will interwork with 10/11 routes on Sundays daytimes too.

NEW SERVICE SUGGESTIONS 
77
EAST HOWDON
WALLSEND
WALKERGATE
BYKER
NEWCASTLE
DENTON BURN
WEST ROAD
LEMINGTON ROAD ENDS
WALBOTTLE CAMPUS
THROCKLEY
HEDDON ON THE WALL

EVERY 20 MINUTES.

BUSES WILL TERMINATE/START AT HEDDON ON THE WALL METHODIST CHURCH AND WILL LOOP AROUNDTHE VILLAGE CALLING AT TOWNE GATE THEN WILL TURN TOWARDS THROCKLEY AND OPERATE TO NEWCASTLE USING THE 685 ROUTE AND TO EAST HOWDON USING THE 11 ROUTE

64 - MetroCentre - Scotswood Road - Bell Close - Dumpling Hall - Denton Burn - General Hospital - Newcastle City Centre - Chillingham Road - Four Lane Ends - Quorum Business Park - Killingworth
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday

(08 Apr 2018, 10:00 pm)Malarkey wrote 64 - MetroCentre - Scotswood Road - Bell Close - Dumpling Hall - Denton Burn - General Hospital - Newcastle City Centre - Chillingham Road - Four Lane Ends - Quorum Business Park - Killingworth
Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday

X63 MetroCentre-Blackett Street replacing 100 then continuing via current route to Killingworth returning via current route to Newcastle Pilgrims Street via 100 route to MetroCentre

Every 20 minutes supplemented by short workings every 20 minutes between Newcastle and MetroCentre interworking at MetroCentre using Enviro 400MMCs

(03 May 2018, 12:32 am)Coastliner700 wrote X63 MetroCentre-Blackett Street replacing 100 then continuing via current route to Killingworth returning via current route to Newcastle Pilgrims Street via 100 route to MetroCentre

Every 20 minutes supplemented by short workings every 20 minutes between Newcastle and MetroCentre interworking at MetroCentre using Enviro 400MMCs

Needs to be more frequent considering most people only ever get the 100 between Newcastle and Metrocentre.
Anyways, didn't there used to be a 64?

(04 May 2018, 3:14 pm)JM03 wrote Needs to be more frequent considering most people only ever get the 100 between Newcastle and Metrocentre.
Anyways, didn't there used to be a 64?

Yes your right,there was,it ran Forest Hall-Chapel House,the 64A ran Chapel House-Killingworth which is now the 63,cant remember the way the old 63 went but i do recall it going via West Moor then along Benton Lane,there was also the 62,62A,and 62B,aswell as the 61 which operated from Longbenton (cant remember where to),the 38 also used to serve Forest Hall

(04 May 2018, 3:14 pm)JM03 wrote Needs to be more frequent considering most people only ever get the 100 between Newcastle and Metrocentre.

 Not to mention the low bridge in Dunston.

The only way this 64 would work is by using E200/300. They could take the metro centre allocation but then where would the rest come from. Any ideas?

(06 May 2018, 7:59 pm)Jamie M wrote  Not to mention the low bridge in Dunston.

I never understood this as the Ten, 47 and the 602, X12/X36 before ran with double deckers. My idea was short workings as well.

(08 May 2018, 4:21 pm)Coastliner700 wrote I never understood this as the Ten, 47 and the 602, X12/X36 before ran with double deckers. My idea was short workings as well.

They operate through a different section of dunston which will take it longer.

(09 May 2018, 3:22 pm)JM03 wrote They operate through a different section of dunston which will take it longer.

Not particularly longer. 
If it uses the road between Wellington Road and Handy Drive, I cant see it taking too much longer (if at all) than its current route.

Don’t know why there changed the route originally, should of kept it on the motorway after the last stop at central station it was faster and straight


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Aye. Maybe sending it on the motorway by metro retail park

(09 May 2018, 7:39 pm)JM03 wrote Aye. Maybe sending it on the motorway by metro retail park

Takes forever to go around that way, no quicker than via Dunston Park. The metrocentre is terribly designed as in there is no direct exit onto the A1. The A1114/Teams Street as quick as any other. TENs and Red Kites/6As take the same time in the variations they take. I think it works well now (or as well as it can), the 3 ways from Newcastle to Metro.

X34: South Shields - Pier Head - Marsden - Horsley Hill - Harton Nook - Whitleas - Boldon - Gateshead - Newcastle.
Service extended to South Shields via Pier Head, the service will no longer serve Prince Edward Road and will operate in both directions between Harton Nook and Marsden. The service will operate along the 516 route between Marsden and Pier Head. The service will be reduced to hourly and will operate later into the evenings and Sundays.

Shields Circular 30 and 30A:
South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Primrose - Fellgate Estate - Boldon Asda - East Boldon Metro - Cleadon Pond - Harton Nook - South Shields.
Services 30 and X20 combined to provide a hourly circular service in both directions.

*New* X4: Sunderland - Fulwell The Grange - Witherwack - Red House - North Hylton Road - Hylton Castle - Town End Farm - Downhill - Boldon Asda - Gateshead High Street - Newcastle.
This service will provide the North of Sunderland with direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle. It will also reinstate the link from the North to the Monkwearmouth Hospital. The service will operate hourly and will combine with service X34 to provide a every 30 minute service between Boldon and Newcastle.

(11 Jun 2018, 6:54 pm)S830OFT wrote X34: South Shields - Pier Head - Marsden - Horsley Hill - Harton Nook - Whitleas - Boldon - Gateshead - Newcastle.
Service extended to South Shields via Pier Head, the service will no longer serve Prince Edward Road and will operate in both directions between Harton Nook and Marsden. The service will operate along the 516 route between Marsden and Pier Head. The service will be reduced to hourly and will operate later into the evenings and Sundays.

Shields Circular 30 and 30A:
South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Primrose - Fellgate Estate - Boldon Asda - East Boldon Metro - Cleadon Pond - Harton Nook - South Shields.
Services 30 and X20 combined to provide a hourly circular service in both directions.

*New* X4: Sunderland - Fulwell The Grange - Witherwack - Red House - North Hylton Road - Hylton Castle - Town End Farm - Downhill - Boldon Asda - Gateshead High Street - Newcastle.
This service will provide the North of Sunderland with direct links to Gateshead and Newcastle. It will also reinstate the link from the North to the Monkwearmouth Hospital. The service will operate hourly and will combine with service X34 to provide a every 30 minute service between Boldon and Newcastle.

X34 reduced to hourly,,, are you having a laugh

30/30a/x20. already been done not so long ago and failed.

Newcastle:
X82: Heddon On The Wall - Throckley - Lemington Road Ends - General Hospital - Central Station - Pilgrim Street - Barris Bridge - Cowgate - Callerton - Airport - Ponteland.
Services X78 and X82 merged to create Cross City Links. They will retain there Every 30 minutes frequencys. However will no longer serve Eldon Square, instead they will serve Central Station and Pilgrim Street. The service is also extended to Heddon On The Wall aswell.

NEW Services X1 & X2 replacing existing Services X1 & X24

NEW Service X1 will operate from Sunderland Interchange Stand G – Belvedere Road – Tunstall Road – Queen Alexandra Road – Durham Road – City Way – Doxford International – City Way – direct via A19 then via existing X24 route to Gateshead and Newcastle.
To speed up journey times, new Service X1 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and the Durham Road, with no stops for alighting until Doxford International.  It will then operate non-stop to Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street.  Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Durham Road and Sunderland Interchange.

NEW Service X2 will operate via the existing X24 route between Newcastle and Sunderland University, then instead of serving Vine Place and Fawcett Street will operate via St Michaels Way and Grange Terrace to Sunderland Interchange Stand G.
To speed up journey times, new Service X2 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and Gateshead High Street, with no stops for alighting until Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street. Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Gateshead and Sunderland Interchange.

Both services will operate half hourly Monday – Saturday and will interwork requiring a PVR of 5 (achieved through faster journey times and the changes to terminal point in Sunderland).  The increased frequency will allow the use of lower capacity vehicles, improving fuel efficiency.  These changes will also enable the frequency of Service 4 to be restored to 10 minutes throughout the evening peak as the vehicles will no longer be required for Service X1.

Short hop local journeys won’t be possible on Services X1 and X2 but continue to be available on Stagecoach services 3, 4, 8, 12, 16 & 23.

(15 Jun 2018, 8:36 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote NEW Services X1 & X2 replacing existing Services X1 & X24

NEW Service X1 will operate from Sunderland Interchange Stand G – Belvedere Road – Tunstall Road – Queen Alexandra Road – Durham Road – City Way – Doxford International – City Way – direct via A19 then via existing X24 route to Gateshead and Newcastle.
To speed up journey times, new Service X1 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and the Durham Road, with no stops for alighting until Doxford International.  It will then operate non-stop to Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street.  Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Durham Road and Sunderland Interchange.

NEW Service X2 will operate via the existing X24 route between Newcastle and Sunderland University, then instead of serving Vine Place and Fawcett Street will operate via St Michaels Way and Grange Terrace to Sunderland Interchange Stand G.
To speed up journey times, new Service X2 will operate on a ‘boarding only’ basis between Sunderland Interchange and Gateshead High Street, with no stops for alighting until Gateshead High Street and Newcastle Pilgrim Street. Journeys from Newcastle will operate as ‘alighting only’ between Gateshead and Sunderland Interchange.

Both services will operate half hourly Monday – Saturday and will interwork requiring a PVR of 5 (achieved through faster journey times and the changes to terminal point in Sunderland).  The increased frequency will allow the use of lower capacity vehicles, improving fuel efficiency.  These changes will also enable the frequency of Service 4 to be restored to 10 minutes throughout the evening peak as the vehicles will no longer be required for Service X1.

Short hop local journeys won’t be possible on Services X1 and X2 but continue to be available on Stagecoach services 3, 4, 8, 12, 16 & 23.

One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.

(15 Jun 2018, 9:04 pm)S830OFT wrote One problem, I don't think Stagecoach would want to pay to use the bus station that much, that is one of the reasons why Stagecoach don't serve Gateshead Interchange, Heworth. That is a reason why the E buses were pulled from Park Lane aswell.

Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Not only Park Lane stands missing services they seem to be missing the famous security who confront you for taking photos of the buses.

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Ye, wouldn't be surprised if more services are pulled in the near future, would be better if they didn't pay or even if it was a smaller fee, then at least it would fill the empty stands, congestion played a massive part for the Sunderland Stagecoach services pulling out too.


Although not Stagecoach but i'm not sure why the 73 stops at stand S, should be stand R, then stand S,T and V can be used as drop off/parking (if the parking bays full).

(15 Jun 2018, 9:48 pm)Michael wrote Ye, wouldn't be surprised if more services are pulled in the near future, would be better if they didn't pay or even if it was a smaller fee, then at least it would fill the empty stands, congestion played a massive part for the Sunderland Stagecoach services pulling out too.


Although not Stagecoach but i'm not sure why the 73 stops at stand S, should be stand R, then stand S,T and V can be used as drop off/parking (if the parking bays full).

Think it's because it's a Nexus Bus and to avoid confusion with GNE buses they separated it.

(15 Jun 2018, 9:35 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Yes you are probably right, thought the services could still run those routes using the stops the 8 & 20 do instead.   The number of unused stands at Park Lane nowadays is pretty telling.

Going old school with those boarding rules mind

As for the Park Lane comments. Couldn't they just operate via Holmeside on an in/out basis? Inbound X1 runs on to an outbound X2 and vice versa?

(16 Jun 2018, 7:38 am)Andreos1 wrote Going old school with those boarding rules mind

As for the Park Lane comments. Couldn't they just operate via Holmeside on an in/out basis? Inbound X1 runs on to an outbound X2 and vice versa?

Could do but would probably need to add 5-10 mins per jourey to get round/through town - so would likely add another bus to the PVR.  That was the thinking behind of terminating on the edge of city centre, kind of like the X24 & X34 do in Newcastle at the minute