If 26/27 gets new buses I think it would be E400 old euro 5 and move omnicities from 5 to 9 if routes same or 26/27 and for citaros to move on to 5 and 97s.

(05 Jan 2019, 8:49 pm)Panasonic44 wrote If 26/27 gets new buses I think it would be E400 old euro 5 and move omnicities from 5 to 9 if routes same or 26/27 and for citaros to move on to 5 and 97s.

Would have to be MMCs if ordering new unless any companies in the Go Ahead group have any classic E400s?

(06 Jan 2019, 10:52 am)L469 YVK wrote Would have to be MMCs if ordering new unless any companies in the Go Ahead group have any classic E400s?

Don't go ahead london have old E400s

(05 Jan 2019, 8:49 pm)Panasonic44 wrote If 26/27 gets new buses I think it would be E400 old euro 5 and move omnicities from 5 to 9 if routes same or 26/27 and for citaros to move on to 5 and 97s.

I can't see Omnicitites going on the 9, Deptford have never had Omnicities (expect for the 1 on demo for the 35? when branding first started), so can't see them getting them now due to Depot standardisation etc, if anything the 9 would get new or cascaded Streetlites, as Deptford already have 48 of them. 

Citaro's from the 9 would replace the Scania's on the 35, further depot standardisation

New cleaner buses for Newcastle plan:
8x new wright streetlites for the 57 (5500-07) and 1 spare (5508) these will feature the latest and cleanest euro 6 engines aswell as stop start technology and internally include all the current internal spec of the 57
This will allow the citylink citaros to move elsewhere in the gne fleet or go-ahead group

8x new volvo 7900 hybrids for the 58 (5509-16) and 1 spare (5517) thse will feafeature the latest, cleanest euro 6 electric hybrid engines and internaly include usb charging points, next stop announcements & comfy leather seats
This will allow the citylink versas to be cascaded around the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

9x new volvo b8rle wright eclipse 3s for the q3 (5518-26) and 1 spare (5527) which feature tge latest, cleanest euro 6 engines with stop start technology and internaly feature usb charging, high-backed leather seats.

This will allow the q3 versas to cascade else where in the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

14x new volvo 7900 hybrids for the q1/2 (5528-40) and 1 spare (5541) which have the same features as the ones previously mentioned
Which will allow more versas to cascade elsewhere in the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

What are your thoughts

(05 Feb 2019, 8:08 pm)GNE6312 wrote New cleaner buses for Newcastle plan:
8x new wright streetlites for the 57 (5500-07) and 1 spare (5508) these will feature the latest and cleanest euro 6 engines aswell as stop start technology and internally include all the current internal spec of the 57
This will allow the citylink citaros to move elsewhere in the gne fleet or go-ahead group

8x new volvo 7900 hybrids for the 58 (5509-16) and 1 spare (5517) thse will feafeature the latest, cleanest euro 6 electric hybrid engines and internaly include usb charging points, next stop announcements & comfy leather seats
This will allow the citylink versas to be cascaded around the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

9x new volvo b8rle wright eclipse 3s for the q3 (5518-26) and 1 spare (5527) which feature tge latest, cleanest euro 6 engines with stop start technology and internaly feature usb charging, high-backed leather seats.

This will allow the q3 versas to cascade else where in the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

14x new volvo 7900 hybrids for the q1/2 (5528-40) and 1 spare (5541) which have the same features as the ones previously mentioned
Which will allow more versas to cascade elsewhere in the fleet to replace elderly singledeckers

What are your thoughts

I would like to see the Volvo 7900 and the Volvo B8RLE in the Go North East fleet in the future. 

I think the Q1/Q2 and Q3 would get the same kind of buses.

(05 Feb 2019, 8:50 pm)Michael wrote I would like to see the Volvo 7900 and the Volvo B8RLE in the Go North East fleet in the future. 

I think the Q1/Q2 and Q3 would get the same kind of buses.

Isn't the Volvo 9700 a Coach?

(05 Feb 2019, 9:50 pm)S830OFT wrote Isn't the Volvo 9700 a Coach?

Yes it is, but he's talking about the 7900, which is a bus.

(05 Feb 2019, 10:28 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Yes it is, but he's talking about the 7900, which is a bus.

Sorry, I misread it (half asleep today)

22 - Wright Streetdeck Micro-Hybrid 3's - Prince Bishops

I have used the 20 quite a few times so far this year whilst out and about with a mix of journey's coming in and out of Sunderland with some quite high loadings with standees on each of those journey's at various times of the day, this is as a result of students using the service at both Bede and City Campus along with your average Tom, Dick and Harry using the service.

I do think the Streetlites which put into service in 2016 have brought some much needed growth to the 20's which I do think would benefit from having deckers during the peak periods of the morning and afternoon.

(14 Feb 2019, 9:29 pm)Malarkey wrote 22 - Wright Streetdeck Micro-Hybrid 3's - Prince Bishops

I have used the 20 quite a few times so far this year whilst out and about with a mix of journey's coming in and out of Sunderland with some quite high loadings with standees on each of those journey's at various times of the day, this is as a result of students using the service at both Bede and City Campus along with your average Tom, Dick and Harry using the service.

I do think the Streetlites which put into service in 2016 have brought some much needed growth to the 20's which I do think would benefit from having deckers during the peak periods of the morning and afternoon.

I might have mentioned this before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the 20 and 35 swap over and the 35 head back to Shields before any purchase of new vehicles for the 20. 
It's a huge investment to replace the PVR for the route and I would struggle to see the business case succeed.
35 will need new/newer vehicles soon and I'm struggling to see where they will come from in its current guise.
It's almost become a neglected route.

20/20A - reduced PVR: Durham - North Sunderland Estates/Boldon.

35 - increased PVR (using cascaded Streetlites): Low Moorsley - South Shields.


With a reduced PVR, the 20 then sees new vehicles and the financial viability on the 35 starts to improve (the newer, more wallet friendly Streetlites aiding its cause). 

Whether this happens this or next year, I'm not sure. 

*puts mystic Meg outfit back in the cupboard*

(17 Feb 2019, 12:47 pm)Andreos1 wrote I might have mentioned this before, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the 20 and 35 swap over and the 35 head back to Shields before any purchase of new vehicles for the 20. 
It's a huge investment to replace the PVR for the route and I would struggle to see the business case succeed.
35 will need new/newer vehicles soon and I'm struggling to see where they will come from in its current guise.
It's almost become a neglected route.

20/20A - reduced PVR: Durham - North Sunderland Estates/Boldon.

35 - increased PVR (using cascaded Streetlites): Low Moorsley - South Shields.


With a reduced PVR, the 20 then sees new vehicles and the financial iability on the 35 starts to improve (the newer, more wallet friendly Streetlites) aiding its cause.

Whether this happens this or next year, I'm not sure. 

*puts mystic Meg outfit back in the cupboard*

Yup, it went from Citaro's to a mixed allocation of Citaro and Scania, to Citaro and now Scania...... i don't see where newer buses will come from when the Scania's get withdrawn, and its not a route i think would get new buses.... 

Wouldn't mind Omnicities on the route though...

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Wonder when the next set of the new buses will arrive? (not including the Sunderland Connect Solo's and Coaches)

(17 Feb 2019, 12:55 pm)Michael wrote Yup, it went from Citaro's to a mixed allocation of Citaro and Scania, to Citaro and now Scania...... i don't see where newer buses will come from when the Scania's get withdrawn, and its not a route i think would get new buses.... 

Wouldn't mind Omnicities on the route though...

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Wonder when the next set of the new buses will arrive? (not including the Sunderland Connect Solo's and Coaches)

It will be in the summer when the Scanias are withdrawn.

(17 Feb 2019, 1:47 pm)Malarkey wrote It will be in the summer when the Scanias are withdrawn.

Hoping....

Wonder if they'll all go around the same time?

It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan wrote It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

Do the single Deckers include the electric ones?

(13 Mar 2019, 6:15 pm)NewcastleOne wrote Do the single Deckers include the electric ones?

No - they're separate.

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(13 Mar 2019, 6:15 pm)NewcastleOne wrote Do the single Deckers include the electric ones?

No - they're separate.

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(13 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)Dan wrote No - they're separate.

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I would think ADL 400MMC for the double deckers. Judging by loadings on the 16s i’m speculating that some workings require extra capacity. If this being the case I would think the displaced streetlites might get rid of the final Omnicities from Consett.

(13 Mar 2019, 6:22 pm)Dan wrote No - they're separate.

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X1/1a And X66 for Deckers and 93/94 or 97/97a for Singles

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan wrote It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.

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(13 Mar 2019, 6:45 pm)NewcastleOne wrote X1/1a And X66 for Deckers and 93/94 or 97/97a for Singles

That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael wrote Thought it would be other way around and have more single deckers on order.

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That's only 18 deckers out of the 33 (3 spares) = 21 

Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

Yes even the odd 69xx Gemini has appeared on it.

33 deckers?

Doing my calculations, that could mean:

- 13x for Red Arrows (+2 spare) = 15
- 16x for Tyne Valley Ten (+2 spare) = 18

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan wrote It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

Dan, are any of these 44 new buses destined for EYMS?, just EYMS comes under GNE name.


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I think the single decks for the 4

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael wrote Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.

(13 Mar 2019, 6:46 pm)Michael wrote Can the X66 use deckers on the centrelink though?

(13 Mar 2019, 8:07 pm)S813 FVK wrote No - they would have to continue along Askew Road or any other suitable route.

Wouldn't affect journey times by that much, though presumably will be longer.

It goes the TVT/RK etc route to cuthbert street then up there then bensham bank (or atleast the driver of 6916 did when that apeared on December 21st). If thats the road you are on about.

(13 Mar 2019, 5:48 pm)Dan wrote It's been a while since we've last had some activity in this thread...

Go North East MD Martijn Gilbert was the guest speaker at a group meeting of the Northern Group Enthusiasts Club yesterday evening. During the talk, Martijn confirmed that Go North East have placed an order for 44 new vehicles this year (33 double-deck and 11 single-deck).

With this extra detail now in our hands, does anyone want to have another guess at which vehicles may have been ordered, and for which services?

11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.

x7 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Castles Express
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Durham Diamond
x15 Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC's for the Red Arrows
x11 Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC's for the Connections4

(13 Mar 2019, 8:44 pm)park5354 wrote 11 ADL E200MMC for Connections 4, allowing the Conx4 Mercs to replace Green Arrow Scania (10) and the other as a replacement for 5319.

Sounds right, hopefully if that happens the Green Arrow brand is dropped...

Would be great to see all the new buses be ADL Enviro 200/400MMC's. would be a massive alliance shift if they were to.


When are we expecting the first buses to be delivered?