(25 Jan 2021, 10:35 am)Dan ...which is largely what the strategy is, but sadly the perception seems to be that it's either black or white and no in between!It's about how obvious this strategy is, yes us enthusiast may notice it's all meant to be colour coded but the average person won't. Looking at Sunderland, many of the services are already red, but the buses that stand out are the different coloured ones; the Purple, Orange & Blue ones. I've seen plenty a time when people refer to the 20 as "the purple bus". Are you going to slap a bit of red at the back of some of those? I'd hope not. The colour combination would be horrible.
There may be a subtle nod to one of the colours on cross-boundary services; such as how Cityrider and Crusader includes red at the rear, Cobalt & Coast includes blue at the rear, and Connections4 includes pink at the front, but it's not the be all and end all, 'farce' and 'flawed strategy' that it's being made out to be, due to a very small reference included within an internal team briefing.
(25 Jan 2021, 10:35 am)Dan ...which is largely what the strategy is, but sadly the perception seems to be that it's either black or white and no in between!It's about how obvious this strategy is, yes us enthusiast may notice it's all meant to be colour coded but the average person won't. Looking at Sunderland, many of the services are already red, but the buses that stand out are the different coloured ones; the Purple, Orange & Blue ones. I've seen plenty a time when people refer to the 20 as "the purple bus". Are you going to slap a bit of red at the back of some of those? I'd hope not. The colour combination would be horrible.
There may be a subtle nod to one of the colours on cross-boundary services; such as how Cityrider and Crusader includes red at the rear, Cobalt & Coast includes blue at the rear, and Connections4 includes pink at the front, but it's not the be all and end all, 'farce' and 'flawed strategy' that it's being made out to be, due to a very small reference included within an internal team briefing.
(25 Jan 2021, 10:35 am)Dan ...which is largely what the strategy is, but sadly the perception seems to be that it's either black or white and no in between!
There may be a subtle nod to one of the colours on cross-boundary services; such as how Cityrider and Crusader includes red at the rear, Cobalt & Coast includes blue at the rear, and Connections4 includes pink at the front, but it's not the be all and end all, 'farce' and 'flawed strategy' that it's being made out to be, due to a very small reference included within an internal team briefing.
(25 Jan 2021, 10:35 am)Dan ...which is largely what the strategy is, but sadly the perception seems to be that it's either black or white and no in between!
There may be a subtle nod to one of the colours on cross-boundary services; such as how Cityrider and Crusader includes red at the rear, Cobalt & Coast includes blue at the rear, and Connections4 includes pink at the front, but it's not the be all and end all, 'farce' and 'flawed strategy' that it's being made out to be, due to a very small reference included within an internal team briefing.
What happened to sticking a bus number and destination on the front, sides and back of the bus? All this orange for this green for that. Get them all back in corporate colours and running a decent service. You cant tell me people have dumped there car cos the 56 six became fab and looked like a bigger version of a ford focus st? or that the purple prince bishops got people onto the buses in Durham??/ and i dread to think of the cost of painting re painting this costs. Put them all in red and bulk buy the paint!
and just to add there is nothing worse than seeing a green angle bus coming towards you only for wen it gets closer the DESTINATION screen say hexham and its the 10! well except a NIS sign just so the buses can catch up but sod those waiting in the rain.
(25 Jan 2021, 2:29 pm)Drifter60 Also ‘Little Pinks’. As someone who isn’t massively fan of ‘Little Coasters’ as a concept you can guess my opinion on that one. One question where is the Big Pink? ‘Little Coasters’ works (although personally not a fan of that naming strategy) because of the ‘main’ or ‘Big’ Coaster 1 service which goes further afield. There is no big pink in Washington. And if Connections 4 is meant to do that, well it’s not even prominently pink? The new livery looks 70% blue. And also doesn’t reference ‘pink’ in its brand name. It’s almost as if indiGo had to go at all costs, for whatever reason, and no one had any other ideas.
(25 Jan 2021, 2:29 pm)Drifter60 Also ‘Little Pinks’. As someone who isn’t massively fan of ‘Little Coasters’ as a concept you can guess my opinion on that one. One question where is the Big Pink? ‘Little Coasters’ works (although personally not a fan of that naming strategy) because of the ‘main’ or ‘Big’ Coaster 1 service which goes further afield. There is no big pink in Washington. And if Connections 4 is meant to do that, well it’s not even prominently pink? The new livery looks 70% blue. And also doesn’t reference ‘pink’ in its brand name. It’s almost as if indiGo had to go at all costs, for whatever reason, and no one had any other ideas.
(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)Some people are never happy...hopefully Prince Bishop wont change too much when the time comes. Always been one of the best
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(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)Some people are never happy...hopefully Prince Bishop wont change too much when the time comes. Always been one of the best
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(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)Dan.
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(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)Dan.
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(25 Jan 2021, 3:50 pm)ifm001 Dan.
Just a quick question. Not complaining about the colours or livery however how will this work when depots operate services outside of their areas . I'm thinking the 5/50 operated by Washington which is pink but the 5 solely operates in South Tyneside which is red. Or because this interworks with the 50 which operates into Washington is this then deemed as acceptable?.
(25 Jan 2021, 3:50 pm)ifm001 Dan.
Just a quick question. Not complaining about the colours or livery however how will this work when depots operate services outside of their areas . I'm thinking the 5/50 operated by Washington which is pink but the 5 solely operates in South Tyneside which is red. Or because this interworks with the 50 which operates into Washington is this then deemed as acceptable?.
(25 Jan 2021, 3:50 pm)ifm001 Dan.
Just a quick question. Not complaining about the colours or livery however how will this work when depots operate services outside of their areas . I'm thinking the 5/50 operated by Washington which is pink but the 5 solely operates in South Tyneside which is red. Or because this interworks with the 50 which operates into Washington is this then deemed as acceptable?.
(25 Jan 2021, 3:50 pm)ifm001 Dan.
Just a quick question. Not complaining about the colours or livery however how will this work when depots operate services outside of their areas . I'm thinking the 5/50 operated by Washington which is pink but the 5 solely operates in South Tyneside which is red. Or because this interworks with the 50 which operates into Washington is this then deemed as acceptable?.
Regarding Ray Stenning, I've seen him at Showbus a few years ago and I still have nightmares. He dresses like his bus liveries and was going around showbus with shorts that looked more like Y Fronts.
Also I remember when he was tasked to rebrand Oxford Bus Company, he instructed them that theyshould paint the corridors in the offices of the new depot under construction at the time bright orange.
(25 Jan 2021, 6:10 pm)Rapidsnap Regarding Ray Stenning, I've seen him at Showbus a few years ago and I still have nightmares. He dresses like his bus liveries and was going around showbus with shorts that looked more like Y Fronts.Why should you concern yourself with how people dress? It's no ines business but their own!
Also I remember when he was tasked to rebrand Oxford Bus Company, he instructed them that theyshould paint the corridors in the offices of the new depot under construction at the time bright orange.
(25 Jan 2021, 6:10 pm)Rapidsnap Regarding Ray Stenning, I've seen him at Showbus a few years ago and I still have nightmares. He dresses like his bus liveries and was going around showbus with shorts that looked more like Y Fronts.Why should you concern yourself with how people dress? It's no ines business but their own!
Also I remember when he was tasked to rebrand Oxford Bus Company, he instructed them that theyshould paint the corridors in the offices of the new depot under construction at the time bright orange.
(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)
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(25 Jan 2021, 3:15 pm)Dan 70% blue? More like 70% pink! (..which, might I add, has just been the subject of criticism, as the pink colour for Washington is on the front instead of the back?!?!)
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(25 Jan 2021, 7:40 pm)JP6004 Why should you concern yourself with how people dress? It's no ines business but their own!
(25 Jan 2021, 7:40 pm)JP6004 Why should you concern yourself with how people dress? It's no ines business but their own!
(25 Jan 2021, 8:53 pm)Rapidsnap Well it's also no concern of yours on how I form opinions of someone.Well actually, judging someone by the way they look would be classed as bullying. I make it my business to stand up for anyone who is bullied and cannot defend themselves.
I'm sure he's a nice person to chat to even though he's rehashing old ideas to sell to other bus companies. I bet in a few years there be something similar to X Lines appearing elsewhere.
(25 Jan 2021, 8:53 pm)Rapidsnap Well it's also no concern of yours on how I form opinions of someone.Well actually, judging someone by the way they look would be classed as bullying. I make it my business to stand up for anyone who is bullied and cannot defend themselves.
I'm sure he's a nice person to chat to even though he's rehashing old ideas to sell to other bus companies. I bet in a few years there be something similar to X Lines appearing elsewhere.
(25 Jan 2021, 9:14 pm)JP6004 Well actually, judging someone by the way they look would be classed as bullying. I make it my business to stand up for anyone who is bullied and cannot defend themselves.
I'm sure you wouldnt like it if someone made derogatory comments about the way you are
(25 Jan 2021, 9:14 pm)JP6004 Well actually, judging someone by the way they look would be classed as bullying. I make it my business to stand up for anyone who is bullied and cannot defend themselves.
I'm sure you wouldnt like it if someone made derogatory comments about the way you are
(25 Jan 2021, 9:38 pm)Rapidsnap Huh, the amount of abuse I've had over the years, it's nowt new. Abuse from customers, former friends, strangers, randoms etc. I don't give a flying feather anymore. I know people talk behind my back, no doubt people be having a good laugh at this little tirade, but let them get on with it. I just don't care, they don't know me.Just because you have been subject to it, does not give you the right to do the same to others
(25 Jan 2021, 9:38 pm)Rapidsnap Huh, the amount of abuse I've had over the years, it's nowt new. Abuse from customers, former friends, strangers, randoms etc. I don't give a flying feather anymore. I know people talk behind my back, no doubt people be having a good laugh at this little tirade, but let them get on with it. I just don't care, they don't know me.Just because you have been subject to it, does not give you the right to do the same to others
(25 Jan 2021, 10:05 pm)JP6004 Just because you have been subject to it, does not give you the right to do the same to others
(25 Jan 2021, 10:05 pm)JP6004 Just because you have been subject to it, does not give you the right to do the same to others
(26 Jan 2021, 12:43 am)Rapidsnap I don't know who you think you are, but I don't give a damn about your sodding opinion or even going to listen to you. I'm going to do what I do to the vast majority of enthusiasts in this area and just ignore you like the rest of them. I live my life how I want to, no one is tells me how I should live it. I'm saying no more on this matter as you're boring me now.Then I suggest, if you cant treat people with respect, then dont say anything at all
(26 Jan 2021, 12:43 am)Rapidsnap I don't know who you think you are, but I don't give a damn about your sodding opinion or even going to listen to you. I'm going to do what I do to the vast majority of enthusiasts in this area and just ignore you like the rest of them. I live my life how I want to, no one is tells me how I should live it. I'm saying no more on this matter as you're boring me now.Then I suggest, if you cant treat people with respect, then dont say anything at all
(25 Jan 2021, 7:50 pm)Drifter60 My apologies Dan, colours round the wrong way, you got me!
Interesting you didn’t reply to any of the other points raised ?
(25 Jan 2021, 7:50 pm)Drifter60 My apologies Dan, colours round the wrong way, you got me!
Interesting you didn’t reply to any of the other points raised ?
(26 Jan 2021, 10:02 am)Dan I had nothing to respond to any of the other points that you raised. The section of your response that I quoted inferred further reasoning for your opinion that this branding strategy is flawed (in that there is no 'big pink' bus in Washington, because the one that is big and pink, is only 30% pink). Your reasoning was actually flawed itself.
Whilst I still maintain that the original comment has been taken too literally, some of the points Andreos1 in particular has raised are interesting, and are less subjective. Though I haven't responded to them either, on the basis that I had nothing further to contribute to the debate (and gone are the days where we'd have hours upon hours of differing opinions with no 'proper' debate), it would be interesting to see whether he'd be willing to anonymously ask some of these questions to Martijn as part of Go North East's live Q&A session planned for Global Community Engagement Day:
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ary-419678
(26 Jan 2021, 10:02 am)Dan I had nothing to respond to any of the other points that you raised. The section of your response that I quoted inferred further reasoning for your opinion that this branding strategy is flawed (in that there is no 'big pink' bus in Washington, because the one that is big and pink, is only 30% pink). Your reasoning was actually flawed itself.
Whilst I still maintain that the original comment has been taken too literally, some of the points Andreos1 in particular has raised are interesting, and are less subjective. Though I haven't responded to them either, on the basis that I had nothing further to contribute to the debate (and gone are the days where we'd have hours upon hours of differing opinions with no 'proper' debate), it would be interesting to see whether he'd be willing to anonymously ask some of these questions to Martijn as part of Go North East's live Q&A session planned for Global Community Engagement Day:
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ary-419678
(26 Jan 2021, 10:02 am)Dan I had nothing to respond to any of the other points that you raised. The section of your response that I quoted inferred further reasoning for your opinion that this branding strategy is flawed (in that there is no 'big pink' bus in Washington, because the one that is big and pink, is only 30% pink). Your reasoning was actually flawed itself.
Whilst I still maintain that the original comment has been taken too literally, some of the points Andreos1 in particular has raised are interesting, and are less subjective. Though I haven't responded to them either, on the basis that I had nothing further to contribute to the debate (and gone are the days where we'd have hours upon hours of differing opinions with no 'proper' debate), it would be interesting to see whether he'd be willing to anonymously ask some of these questions to Martijn as part of Go North East's live Q&A session planned for Global Community Engagement Day:
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ary-419678
(26 Jan 2021, 10:02 am)Dan I had nothing to respond to any of the other points that you raised. The section of your response that I quoted inferred further reasoning for your opinion that this branding strategy is flawed (in that there is no 'big pink' bus in Washington, because the one that is big and pink, is only 30% pink). Your reasoning was actually flawed itself.
Whilst I still maintain that the original comment has been taken too literally, some of the points Andreos1 in particular has raised are interesting, and are less subjective. Though I haven't responded to them either, on the basis that I had nothing further to contribute to the debate (and gone are the days where we'd have hours upon hours of differing opinions with no 'proper' debate), it would be interesting to see whether he'd be willing to anonymously ask some of these questions to Martijn as part of Go North East's live Q&A session planned for Global Community Engagement Day:
https://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/...ary-419678