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03 May 2021, 8:40 am #661
(03 May 2021, 7:31 am)GNE6312 Service X35

Newcastle Pilgrim Street
Gateshead
Boldon ASDA
Boldon
Non stop
ST hospital
Chichester metro
South Shields interchange


This service should take 37 minutes according to maps however with stopping would probably take 40-45 minutes and will be limited atop only calling at the following:
Newcastle Pilgrim Street
Gateshead high Street
Boldon Asda
New Road-Earnest Street
New Street School
South Tyneside Hospital
Chichester metro Station
South Shields interchange

This would be a good service to rival the GNE 27 & T&W metro

This service would run every 20 minutes and will be allocated volvo B8RLE plaxton LEs with a PVR of 4-6 (I think)

Here is the route on maps including it's stops

https://maps.app.goo.gl/F2oNyHxbA7CwL2KcA
I've never understood why Stagecoach won't send the X34 to South Shields. Imagine the profit they would bring in
Micheal Aaron
03 May 2021, 8:40 am #661

(03 May 2021, 7:31 am)GNE6312 Service X35

Newcastle Pilgrim Street
Gateshead
Boldon ASDA
Boldon
Non stop
ST hospital
Chichester metro
South Shields interchange


This service should take 37 minutes according to maps however with stopping would probably take 40-45 minutes and will be limited atop only calling at the following:
Newcastle Pilgrim Street
Gateshead high Street
Boldon Asda
New Road-Earnest Street
New Street School
South Tyneside Hospital
Chichester metro Station
South Shields interchange

This would be a good service to rival the GNE 27 & T&W metro

This service would run every 20 minutes and will be allocated volvo B8RLE plaxton LEs with a PVR of 4-6 (I think)

Here is the route on maps including it's stops

https://maps.app.goo.gl/F2oNyHxbA7CwL2KcA
I've never understood why Stagecoach won't send the X34 to South Shields. Imagine the profit they would bring in

04 May 2021, 7:56 pm #662
Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.
OrangeArrow49
04 May 2021, 7:56 pm #662

Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

Dan

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04 May 2021, 8:01 pm #663
(03 May 2021, 8:40 am)Micheal Aaron I've never understood why Stagecoach won't send the X34 to South Shields. Imagine the profit they would bring in



Why do you think it would be a big money-spinner? Between the 27 and Metro, I’m pretty sure there’s not much demand for another service between South Shields and Newcastle.


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Dan
04 May 2021, 8:01 pm #663

(03 May 2021, 8:40 am)Micheal Aaron I've never understood why Stagecoach won't send the X34 to South Shields. Imagine the profit they would bring in



Why do you think it would be a big money-spinner? Between the 27 and Metro, I’m pretty sure there’s not much demand for another service between South Shields and Newcastle.


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MurdnunoC



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04 May 2021, 8:51 pm #664
(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

I'm all for GCT gaining more services. Such a reputable operator, not a cowboy like some.
MurdnunoC
04 May 2021, 8:51 pm #664

(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

I'm all for GCT gaining more services. Such a reputable operator, not a cowboy like some.

Storx



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04 May 2021, 9:26 pm #665
(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

I'm confused the 30/31 is literally every 7.5 minutes and the main bus from Newcastle to Gosforth (excluding Arriva) and most of the Gosforth suburbs and got brand new Enviros like 5 year ago. Doesn't sound like a service they'd want to give up when you've got the MAN's lumping around on the X47 etc.

I never understand why people on here suggest withdrawing services for the sake of it unless you were a shareholder. For the record Stagecoach North East (excluding Teesside) makes like 10 million pound a year, they aren't going bust anytime soon. You're literally asking us to pay for it from tax payers funds for the sake of it so some shareholder can buy a new car or whatever - no thanks.
Storx
04 May 2021, 9:26 pm #665

(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

I'm confused the 30/31 is literally every 7.5 minutes and the main bus from Newcastle to Gosforth (excluding Arriva) and most of the Gosforth suburbs and got brand new Enviros like 5 year ago. Doesn't sound like a service they'd want to give up when you've got the MAN's lumping around on the X47 etc.

I never understand why people on here suggest withdrawing services for the sake of it unless you were a shareholder. For the record Stagecoach North East (excluding Teesside) makes like 10 million pound a year, they aren't going bust anytime soon. You're literally asking us to pay for it from tax payers funds for the sake of it so some shareholder can buy a new car or whatever - no thanks.

04 May 2021, 10:04 pm #666
(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)...why?

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)...why?

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72). ...why?

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw....curtail which end? And... why?

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.  ...why?!?!?!
stagecoachbusdepot
04 May 2021, 10:04 pm #666

(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)...why?

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)...why?

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72). ...why?

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw....curtail which end? And... why?

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.  ...why?!?!?!

V514DFT



2,251
04 May 2021, 10:06 pm #667
Ridiculous suggestion

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
04 May 2021, 10:06 pm #667

Ridiculous suggestion


Kind Regards
Tez

04 May 2021, 10:19 pm #668
(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

18/32/32A buses are full at peak/school times so why? (covid/pre-covid)
SNE would not give up or withdraw there 30/31/36 as it is one of the most frequent services in newcastle and on the verge of needing deckers (most of the time, covid/pre-covid)
87 is only there to provide a link to stamfordham road and not frequent either with daily route finishing at around 18/19:00 ish, so there would be no need to cause confusion just keep the way it is and simple.
6/7 to no longer serve metrocentre, scotswood, lemington, lemington road ends and blakelaw???? SERIOUSLY!? The buses get full enough all day long from metrocentre - blakelaw alone why would they withdraw all these places if they get soo many passengers all day long mon-sat at least (covid/pre-covid) and if they did there would be no alternative but the 84 which is a long joourney and 60 mins freq, or bus to town to get 100, then to metrocentre.
What would be the point of gaining the 13?
logidoodah
04 May 2021, 10:19 pm #668

(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

18/32/32A buses are full at peak/school times so why? (covid/pre-covid)
SNE would not give up or withdraw there 30/31/36 as it is one of the most frequent services in newcastle and on the verge of needing deckers (most of the time, covid/pre-covid)
87 is only there to provide a link to stamfordham road and not frequent either with daily route finishing at around 18/19:00 ish, so there would be no need to cause confusion just keep the way it is and simple.
6/7 to no longer serve metrocentre, scotswood, lemington, lemington road ends and blakelaw???? SERIOUSLY!? The buses get full enough all day long from metrocentre - blakelaw alone why would they withdraw all these places if they get soo many passengers all day long mon-sat at least (covid/pre-covid) and if they did there would be no alternative but the 84 which is a long joourney and 60 mins freq, or bus to town to get 100, then to metrocentre.
What would be the point of gaining the 13?

V514DFT



2,251
05 May 2021, 8:42 am #669
2 suggestions that stand out for me is the 64 to help out with the 62 and 63 and the 38 extended to Forest Hall, even if its once an hour it would still provide the residents of the heart of Forest Hall a bus to the Freeman

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
05 May 2021, 8:42 am #669

2 suggestions that stand out for me is the 64 to help out with the 62 and 63 and the 38 extended to Forest Hall, even if its once an hour it would still provide the residents of the heart of Forest Hall a bus to the Freeman


Kind Regards
Tez

GNE6312



1,091
05 May 2021, 3:46 pm #670
(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

They are fine with Stagecoach. And also why give them to GCT, Out of all Operators GCT are the one who I'd least want to get contracts for popular services, I could think of several operators better for contracts. However as mentioned the services are fine with stagecoach so just leave it how they are.
GNE6312
05 May 2021, 3:46 pm #670

(04 May 2021, 7:56 pm)OrangeArrow49 Withdraw 18 and 32/32A (replaced by GCT 18 and 32/32A, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 30/31 (replaced by GCT 30/31, route and timetable unchanged)

Withdraw 87 on Sundays (replaced by re-routed 71/72).

Curtail 6 and 7 at West Denton, and no longer serve Blakelaw.

Some bus services might need to be cut because of the pandemic. Services 18, 32/32A and 87 are not well used and 30/31/32/32A could all be operated by GCT. Stagecoach could take over the Nexus 13 from GCT.

They are fine with Stagecoach. And also why give them to GCT, Out of all Operators GCT are the one who I'd least want to get contracts for popular services, I could think of several operators better for contracts. However as mentioned the services are fine with stagecoach so just leave it how they are.

09 May 2021, 7:09 pm #671
(05 May 2021, 8:42 am)V514DFT 2 suggestions that stand out for me is the 64 to help out with the 62 and 63 and the 38 extended to Forest Hall, even if its once an hour it would still provide the residents of the heart of Forest Hall a bus to the Freeman

I still think the 64 (or something similar) should happen and would show viable results. And that 38 idea would actually be a good idea i'm guessing when the 6, 7 & 8 served Forest Hall (during the day) they didn't have good service numbers.
logidoodah
09 May 2021, 7:09 pm #671

(05 May 2021, 8:42 am)V514DFT 2 suggestions that stand out for me is the 64 to help out with the 62 and 63 and the 38 extended to Forest Hall, even if its once an hour it would still provide the residents of the heart of Forest Hall a bus to the Freeman

I still think the 64 (or something similar) should happen and would show viable results. And that 38 idea would actually be a good idea i'm guessing when the 6, 7 & 8 served Forest Hall (during the day) they didn't have good service numbers.

V514DFT



2,251
09 May 2021, 8:11 pm #672
The 38 once served Forest Hall, aswell as the 64,but both were axed and replaced with the 18/19,then just the 18 on its own, then that was axed and replaced with the 6/7,then that was axed and replace with the K3, Forest Hall still needs a service,its just about finding the right route

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
09 May 2021, 8:11 pm #672

The 38 once served Forest Hall, aswell as the 64,but both were axed and replaced with the 18/19,then just the 18 on its own, then that was axed and replaced with the 6/7,then that was axed and replace with the K3, Forest Hall still needs a service,its just about finding the right route


Kind Regards
Tez

15 May 2021, 10:40 pm #673
Extend the X47 to serve Great Park? Are Stagecoach allowed to operate in Great Park? I'm not sure if Great Park will get more buses in the future as the development progresses.
OrangeArrow49
15 May 2021, 10:40 pm #673

Extend the X47 to serve Great Park? Are Stagecoach allowed to operate in Great Park? I'm not sure if Great Park will get more buses in the future as the development progresses.

16 May 2021, 7:05 am #674
(15 May 2021, 10:40 pm)OrangeArrow49 Extend the X47 to serve Great Park? Are Stagecoach allowed to operate in Great Park? I'm not sure if Great Park will get more buses in the future as the development progresses.
I've always thought that. Due to the only bus being the Q3
Micheal Aaron
16 May 2021, 7:05 am #674

(15 May 2021, 10:40 pm)OrangeArrow49 Extend the X47 to serve Great Park? Are Stagecoach allowed to operate in Great Park? I'm not sure if Great Park will get more buses in the future as the development progresses.
I've always thought that. Due to the only bus being the Q3

16 May 2021, 11:16 am #675
(16 May 2021, 7:05 am)Micheal Aaron I've always thought that. Due to the only bus being the Q3
What about Arriva's 46?

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16 May 2021, 11:16 am #675

(16 May 2021, 7:05 am)Micheal Aaron I've always thought that. Due to the only bus being the Q3
What about Arriva's 46?


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16 May 2021, 11:28 am #676
(16 May 2021, 11:16 am)ASX_Terranova What about Arriva's 46?

I don't think (personally) Arriva's 46 is as well known as the QuayCity Q3, although I believe it was established first. As Stagecoach operate two services to Kingston Park (6 and X47) and four services to Gosforth (7, 30, 31 and 35) they seem most logical to serve Great Park, although competition is most welcome. Could Stagecoach extend a service to Great Park?

My suggestion would be run the X47 Eldon Square - Gosforth - Fawdon - Great Park and send the 30 and 31 from City Centre - Cowgate - Kingston Park and extend the 6 to Great Park.
OrangeArrow49
16 May 2021, 11:28 am #676

(16 May 2021, 11:16 am)ASX_Terranova What about Arriva's 46?

I don't think (personally) Arriva's 46 is as well known as the QuayCity Q3, although I believe it was established first. As Stagecoach operate two services to Kingston Park (6 and X47) and four services to Gosforth (7, 30, 31 and 35) they seem most logical to serve Great Park, although competition is most welcome. Could Stagecoach extend a service to Great Park?

My suggestion would be run the X47 Eldon Square - Gosforth - Fawdon - Great Park and send the 30 and 31 from City Centre - Cowgate - Kingston Park and extend the 6 to Great Park.

16 May 2021, 11:47 am #677
(16 May 2021, 11:28 am)OrangeArrow49 I don't think (personally) Arriva's 46 is as well known as the QuayCity Q3, although I believe it was established first. As Stagecoach operate two services to Kingston Park (6 and X47) and four services to Gosforth (7, 30, 31 and 35) they seem most logical to serve Great Park, although competition is most welcome. Could Stagecoach extend a service to Great Park?

My suggestion would be run the X47 Eldon Square - Gosforth - Fawdon - Great Park and send the 30 and 31 from City Centre - Cowgate - Kingston Park and extend the 6 to Great Park.
Does the 46 even go to the Great Park
Micheal Aaron
16 May 2021, 11:47 am #677

(16 May 2021, 11:28 am)OrangeArrow49 I don't think (personally) Arriva's 46 is as well known as the QuayCity Q3, although I believe it was established first. As Stagecoach operate two services to Kingston Park (6 and X47) and four services to Gosforth (7, 30, 31 and 35) they seem most logical to serve Great Park, although competition is most welcome. Could Stagecoach extend a service to Great Park?

My suggestion would be run the X47 Eldon Square - Gosforth - Fawdon - Great Park and send the 30 and 31 from City Centre - Cowgate - Kingston Park and extend the 6 to Great Park.
Does the 46 even go to the Great Park

Rob44



1,514
16 May 2021, 11:49 am #678
the46 original detonation was polwarth drive just off the great north road. When the " great" park was getting built it extended to serve it. The great park put a tender out and on all Jesmonds buses a sign appeared saying that arriva had lost out to GNE but would continue to run the 46 to the "great " park. It then returned to serving Polwarth drive leaving the x40 as it was then serving the great park
Rob44
16 May 2021, 11:49 am #678

the46 original detonation was polwarth drive just off the great north road. When the " great" park was getting built it extended to serve it. The great park put a tender out and on all Jesmonds buses a sign appeared saying that arriva had lost out to GNE but would continue to run the 46 to the "great " park. It then returned to serving Polwarth drive leaving the x40 as it was then serving the great park

16 May 2021, 11:58 am #679
(16 May 2021, 11:49 am)Rob44 the46 original detonation was polwarth drive  just off the great north road. When the " great" park was getting built it extended to serve it. The great park put a tender out and on all Jesmonds buses  a sign appeared  saying that arriva had lost out to GNE but would continue to run the 46 to the "great " park. It then returned to serving Polwarth drive leaving the x40 as it was then serving the great park

Ah, yes I forgot about the X40. The 46 and Q3 now serve Great Park. Does the Great Park tender expire or was it permanently awarded to GNE? Stagecoach operating to Great Park in the future would be a great addition, especially with Morrisons and other new shops opening there in 2022/23.
OrangeArrow49
16 May 2021, 11:58 am #679

(16 May 2021, 11:49 am)Rob44 the46 original detonation was polwarth drive  just off the great north road. When the " great" park was getting built it extended to serve it. The great park put a tender out and on all Jesmonds buses  a sign appeared  saying that arriva had lost out to GNE but would continue to run the 46 to the "great " park. It then returned to serving Polwarth drive leaving the x40 as it was then serving the great park

Ah, yes I forgot about the X40. The 46 and Q3 now serve Great Park. Does the Great Park tender expire or was it permanently awarded to GNE? Stagecoach operating to Great Park in the future would be a great addition, especially with Morrisons and other new shops opening there in 2022/23.

V514DFT



2,251
16 May 2021, 1:05 pm #680
Why stop at just one Express,could one not also be pulled in from the other side of the park,possibly the X79

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
16 May 2021, 1:05 pm #680

Why stop at just one Express,could one not also be pulled in from the other side of the park,possibly the X79


Kind Regards
Tez

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