Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(29 Aug 2021, 9:30 pm)N1cholas It only takes 94 seconds to walk from vine place/holmeside to park lane, surely a nice short walk and the exercise is worth itI mean I think it is longer than that. But it is also better especially when it is raining. (not that parklane is the best stop for when it rains but it does have the coach thing)
(29 Aug 2021, 9:30 pm)N1cholas It only takes 94 seconds to walk from vine place/holmeside to park lane, surely a nice short walk and the exercise is worth itI mean I think it is longer than that. But it is also better especially when it is raining. (not that parklane is the best stop for when it rains but it does have the coach thing)
(29 Aug 2021, 9:30 pm)N1cholas It only takes 94 seconds to walk from vine place/holmeside to park lane, surely a nice short walk and the exercise is worth it
(29 Aug 2021, 9:30 pm)N1cholas It only takes 94 seconds to walk from vine place/holmeside to park lane, surely a nice short walk and the exercise is worth it
(29 Aug 2021, 10:52 pm)Andreos1 Do punters want to do that?If 700/701/702 ran up there it might improve things, but it probably wouldn't get off the ground.
They're already on to potentially their second bus by the time they reach Park Lane and the idea of changing to another (94 seconds or not) to head to Seaburn, may not be the most appealing. Particularly if its with another operator.
Then there's the same for the return leg...
(29 Aug 2021, 10:52 pm)Andreos1 Do punters want to do that?If 700/701/702 ran up there it might improve things, but it probably wouldn't get off the ground.
They're already on to potentially their second bus by the time they reach Park Lane and the idea of changing to another (94 seconds or not) to head to Seaburn, may not be the most appealing. Particularly if its with another operator.
Then there's the same for the return leg...
(29 Aug 2021, 10:52 pm)Andreos1 Do punters want to do that?
They're already on to potentially their second bus by the time they reach Park Lane and the idea of changing to another (94 seconds or not) to head to Seaburn, may not be the most appealing. Particularly if its with another operator.
Then there's the same for the return leg...
(29 Aug 2021, 10:52 pm)Andreos1 Do punters want to do that?
They're already on to potentially their second bus by the time they reach Park Lane and the idea of changing to another (94 seconds or not) to head to Seaburn, may not be the most appealing. Particularly if its with another operator.
Then there's the same for the return leg...
(30 Aug 2021, 7:28 am)Rob44 GNE seem to think it ok making passengers alight at market street and have to walk to haymarket to connect to service heading north, east or west!
(30 Aug 2021, 7:28 am)Rob44 GNE seem to think it ok making passengers alight at market street and have to walk to haymarket to connect to service heading north, east or west!
(30 Aug 2021, 8:09 am)Dan Why do you blame Go North East in this scenario?
Have you ever considered that it may not have been completely their decision, and that the managers of the bus stations are responsible for dictating the number of buses that can serve them?
Park Lane would be unsuitable for departures both south and west in the city, which is why it’s only served by buses going west (ie 2 to Washington, 39 to Pennywell, etc). Arguably there’s scope to better use Stand H (only served by the 700), serve Stand R (only served by the temporary SNS service) but there’s still no where near enough room for all of Stagecoach’s routes and the absent Go North East ones.
Eldon Square in Newcastle is notoriously difficult to serve given how small it is. The stand allocation is being completely revised to provide a better flow with departures being coordinated to avoid stand clashes, but ultimately some services have also had to vacate the station too. The city, quite desperately, needs better bus station facilities.
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(30 Aug 2021, 8:09 am)Dan Why do you blame Go North East in this scenario?
Have you ever considered that it may not have been completely their decision, and that the managers of the bus stations are responsible for dictating the number of buses that can serve them?
Park Lane would be unsuitable for departures both south and west in the city, which is why it’s only served by buses going west (ie 2 to Washington, 39 to Pennywell, etc). Arguably there’s scope to better use Stand H (only served by the 700), serve Stand R (only served by the temporary SNS service) but there’s still no where near enough room for all of Stagecoach’s routes and the absent Go North East ones.
Eldon Square in Newcastle is notoriously difficult to serve given how small it is. The stand allocation is being completely revised to provide a better flow with departures being coordinated to avoid stand clashes, but ultimately some services have also had to vacate the station too. The city, quite desperately, needs better bus station facilities.
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(30 Aug 2021, 8:19 am)Rob44 Ok who should be blamed? Nexus? I understand your never going to make everyone happy but I can just speak from my point of view. At the moment i get the 28 to eldon square, walk around the corner and catch the 44 toDinnington ( if it turns up... talking about you arriva). Now due to GNE, or nexus, or newcastle council i will be kicked off at market street and have to find my way to the Haymarket from there. Can you tell me will this encourage punters like me to continue to use public transport or should i just use my car either driving or a lift, do the journey in under half the time and at a lower cost?And then you have people who are like "its just a 8 min walk" but that could be the difference from making your bus and not having to stand around for 50 mins (if you come on the hourly chester-le-street bus, its not that bad if you have a service which goes every 10-20 mins. Newcaslte needs a New massive bus station for Haymarket & Eldon Square and all other GNE services which stop at Market Street and Stagecoach A mass transit station near a metro station, like 30 platforms it would 100% improve public transport, tbh I now get the metro from Sunderland instead of geting the 56, as I need to get to Eldon Square. But also Park Lane is a awful bus station, it isn't that busy but it also is very open which isn't really what i want in a bus station. They don't necessarily need a new station, but they will soon. I also think that all GNE services should be in parklane and there is space.
(30 Aug 2021, 8:19 am)Rob44 Ok who should be blamed? Nexus? I understand your never going to make everyone happy but I can just speak from my point of view. At the moment i get the 28 to eldon square, walk around the corner and catch the 44 toDinnington ( if it turns up... talking about you arriva). Now due to GNE, or nexus, or newcastle council i will be kicked off at market street and have to find my way to the Haymarket from there. Can you tell me will this encourage punters like me to continue to use public transport or should i just use my car either driving or a lift, do the journey in under half the time and at a lower cost?And then you have people who are like "its just a 8 min walk" but that could be the difference from making your bus and not having to stand around for 50 mins (if you come on the hourly chester-le-street bus, its not that bad if you have a service which goes every 10-20 mins. Newcaslte needs a New massive bus station for Haymarket & Eldon Square and all other GNE services which stop at Market Street and Stagecoach A mass transit station near a metro station, like 30 platforms it would 100% improve public transport, tbh I now get the metro from Sunderland instead of geting the 56, as I need to get to Eldon Square. But also Park Lane is a awful bus station, it isn't that busy but it also is very open which isn't really what i want in a bus station. They don't necessarily need a new station, but they will soon. I also think that all GNE services should be in parklane and there is space.
(30 Aug 2021, 8:32 am)Keeiajs And then you have people who are like "its just a 8 min walk" but that could be the difference from making your bus and not having to stand around for 50 mins (if you come on the hourly chester-le-street bus, its not that bad if you have a service which goes every 10-20 mins. Newcaslte needs a New massive bus station for Haymarket & Eldon Square and all other GNE services which stop at Market Street and Stagecoach A mass transit station near a metro station, like 30 platforms it would 100% improve public transport, tbh I now get the metro from Sunderland instead of geting the 56, as I need to get to Eldon Square. But also Park Lane is a awful bus station, it isn't that busy but it also is very open which isn't really what i want in a bus station. They don't necessarily need a new station, but they will soon. I also think that all GNE services should be in parklane and there is space.
(30 Aug 2021, 8:32 am)Keeiajs And then you have people who are like "its just a 8 min walk" but that could be the difference from making your bus and not having to stand around for 50 mins (if you come on the hourly chester-le-street bus, its not that bad if you have a service which goes every 10-20 mins. Newcaslte needs a New massive bus station for Haymarket & Eldon Square and all other GNE services which stop at Market Street and Stagecoach A mass transit station near a metro station, like 30 platforms it would 100% improve public transport, tbh I now get the metro from Sunderland instead of geting the 56, as I need to get to Eldon Square. But also Park Lane is a awful bus station, it isn't that busy but it also is very open which isn't really what i want in a bus station. They don't necessarily need a new station, but they will soon. I also think that all GNE services should be in parklane and there is space.
(30 Aug 2021, 8:41 am)Rob44 Completely agree with the above. I actually visited Park lane for the fist time in 20 years a few weeks ago. andf it was very quite ( tuesday morning at 10am). Its still better then the old on though!I go quite oftern 9am/11am/3pm/1pm/5pm and it is always not quiet but there is always atleast 3 stands free. So there is room for I would say all of GNE's services it would also make it easier to connect, for that instance I don't get the 39 to Doxford / 2 to Silkworth as I hate getting off a homeside, however when I walk to Park lane there is about 3 stands, (over maybe about 5 times pre covid)
(30 Aug 2021, 8:41 am)Rob44 Completely agree with the above. I actually visited Park lane for the fist time in 20 years a few weeks ago. andf it was very quite ( tuesday morning at 10am). Its still better then the old on though!I go quite oftern 9am/11am/3pm/1pm/5pm and it is always not quiet but there is always atleast 3 stands free. So there is room for I would say all of GNE's services it would also make it easier to connect, for that instance I don't get the 39 to Doxford / 2 to Silkworth as I hate getting off a homeside, however when I walk to Park lane there is about 3 stands, (over maybe about 5 times pre covid)
(30 Aug 2021, 8:51 am)Keeiajs I go quite oftern 9am/11am/3pm/1pm/5pm and it is always not quiet but there is always atleast 3 stands free. So there is room for I would say all of GNE's services it would also make it easier to connect, for that instance I don't get the 39 to Doxford / 2 to Silkworth as I hate getting off a homeside, however when I walk to Park lane there is about 3 stands, (over maybe about 5 times pre covid)
Park lane interchange is just a waste of space, to far away from the shops in the city centre, the location was on favoured because of the metro connection and civic centre (which will be no more), should of built it on the other location which housing the old Debenhams store/multi storey car park, when passengers are carrying all there heavy shopping bags trailing up park lane to get to the bus station, stagecoach decided to pull out because of the fees for each bus entering the interchange and also the added minutes to the timetables to serve the interchange. Should knock down the shops on the north side of holmside to blandford street and use this area for a bus station. GNE should bring back the X6 serving Burdon road (museum), Holmside then interchange and vice versa, many passengers have missed getting off in the central area of town to do shopping when gne took that section off when the X6 was split from the x20.
About having a proper big bus station through Newcastle will not work as it will take a lot of prime real estate and won’t be worth the cost, and passengers prefer to use a bus service to get door to door service right on the main road than having to walk great distances to get to the bus station to get home, not everyone are a spring chicken
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(30 Aug 2021, 8:51 am)Keeiajs I go quite oftern 9am/11am/3pm/1pm/5pm and it is always not quiet but there is always atleast 3 stands free. So there is room for I would say all of GNE's services it would also make it easier to connect, for that instance I don't get the 39 to Doxford / 2 to Silkworth as I hate getting off a homeside, however when I walk to Park lane there is about 3 stands, (over maybe about 5 times pre covid)
(30 Aug 2021, 8:57 am)cbma06 Park lane interchange is just a waste of space, to far away from the shops in the city centre, the location was on favoured because of the metro connection and civic centre (which will be no more), should of built it on the other location which housing the old Debenhams store/multi storey car park, when passengers are carrying all there heavy shopping bags trailing up park lane to get to the bus station, stagecoach decided to pull out because of the fees for each bus entering the interchange and also the added minutes to the timetables to serve the interchange. Should knock down the shops on the north side of holmside to blandford street and use this area for a bus station. GNE should bring back the X6 serving Burdon road (museum), Holmside then interchange and vice versa, many passengers have missed getting off in the central area of town to do shopping when gne took that section off when the X6 was split from the x20.No doubt Park lane is a awfully designed bus station. It needs to be changed/knocked down. And Debenhams have nove shut, know that down with the carpark make a nicer bus station similar to South Sheilds where all services can go. Simplier & Nicer as Park Lane as you say is bloody freezing.
About having a proper big bus station through Newcastle will not work as it will take a lot of prime real estate and won’t be worth the cost, and passengers prefer to use a bus service to get door to door service right on the main road than having to walk great distances to get to the bus station to get home, not everyone are a spring chicken
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For every bus that’s on a timetable schedule enters park lane interchange there’s a fee and it’s not cheap, I’m surprised GNE hasn’t pulled more services out of interchange, it’s more than a eyesore, I’m surprised it got approved, more glass panels was added later on, but still a wind tunnel and cold, council should of spent more money and done a similar design as Middlesbrough where the waiting area was closed in as Sunderland is on the coast and not miles inland.
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(30 Aug 2021, 8:57 am)cbma06 Park lane interchange is just a waste of space, to far away from the shops in the city centre, the location was on favoured because of the metro connection and civic centre (which will be no more), should of built it on the other location which housing the old Debenhams store/multi storey car park, when passengers are carrying all there heavy shopping bags trailing up park lane to get to the bus station, stagecoach decided to pull out because of the fees for each bus entering the interchange and also the added minutes to the timetables to serve the interchange. Should knock down the shops on the north side of holmside to blandford street and use this area for a bus station. GNE should bring back the X6 serving Burdon road (museum), Holmside then interchange and vice versa, many passengers have missed getting off in the central area of town to do shopping when gne took that section off when the X6 was split from the x20.No doubt Park lane is a awfully designed bus station. It needs to be changed/knocked down. And Debenhams have nove shut, know that down with the carpark make a nicer bus station similar to South Sheilds where all services can go. Simplier & Nicer as Park Lane as you say is bloody freezing.
About having a proper big bus station through Newcastle will not work as it will take a lot of prime real estate and won’t be worth the cost, and passengers prefer to use a bus service to get door to door service right on the main road than having to walk great distances to get to the bus station to get home, not everyone are a spring chicken
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For every bus that’s on a timetable schedule enters park lane interchange there’s a fee and it’s not cheap, I’m surprised GNE hasn’t pulled more services out of interchange, it’s more than a eyesore, I’m surprised it got approved, more glass panels was added later on, but still a wind tunnel and cold, council should of spent more money and done a similar design as Middlesbrough where the waiting area was closed in as Sunderland is on the coast and not miles inland.
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(30 Aug 2021, 9:30 am)Keeiajs No doubt Park lane is a awfully designed bus station. It needs to be changed/knocked down. And Debenhams have nove shut, know that down with the carpark make a nicer bus station similar to South Sheilds where all services can go. Simplier & Nicer as Park Lane as you say is bloody freezing.Sunderland is very good example of where you are disenestivised for even thinking of using a bus if you want to visit the city centre. If you park at the multi story you walk undercover a few meters and you are in the centre. Get the bus and the main facility is 1/4 of a mile away, uncoverd to the elements and seagull excrement.
(30 Aug 2021, 9:30 am)Keeiajs No doubt Park lane is a awfully designed bus station. It needs to be changed/knocked down. And Debenhams have nove shut, know that down with the carpark make a nicer bus station similar to South Sheilds where all services can go. Simplier & Nicer as Park Lane as you say is bloody freezing.Sunderland is very good example of where you are disenestivised for even thinking of using a bus if you want to visit the city centre. If you park at the multi story you walk undercover a few meters and you are in the centre. Get the bus and the main facility is 1/4 of a mile away, uncoverd to the elements and seagull excrement.
Could Extending the 310 to Whitley Bay via Tynemouth work I.e. the old 300.
Would a 29A to Birtley and Barley Mow be of use.
Also to add to the bus station debate, with stand C at Central Station only being used by the 91 after the 5th Sept why not send buses there instead of market street.
I have to agree that buses not using the same terminus is annoying. It’s not about the walk it’s about the fact it takes extra time and if connections are tight it’s the difference between making or missing your journey and adding god knows how long to travel, not so bad when it’s a leisure trip as such, but for commuting far from ideal. Park Lane is badly designed and why you certainly used to (don’t know if still happens, never been to PL in 18 months!) have people using Stand K as cross over to get to Stands N-T and potentially nearly getting wiped out by a bus in the process. However it does show that you can’t please everyone, because it actually annoyed me when buses don’t get straight to the interchange, the 61 now and the X6 used to, that loop of the city centre adds what I see as unnecessary time if I’m trying to make another connection to bus/metro.
I’ll touch a little bit on bus vs car debate, a group of friends 4 of us were travelling to South Shields on a Sunday, 2 from Peterlee, 2 from Seaham. So it was two buses, an Arriva 22 or the GNE 60 to Sunderland and then we all had to walk across Fawcett Street for the Stagecoach E1. All this involved trying to coordinate timings, walk across Sunderland, buy two day (or return) tickets - day rovers and network one not valid for us coming from County Durham. We also misssed an E1 because it departed four minutes after the 60 arrived in. The Arriva 22 also finishes about 6/7 on a Sunday too so timings were tight for the return leg. To be honest, whole thing was faff. Next trip we decided to get pay my mates dad to drop off and pick up later. Gave him a fiver each, cheaper and more convenient. No worries about missing last buses for a Sunday evening, no buying two day tickets because cross operator travel tickets are practically non existing, no walking between bus connections and then waiting around because you’ve just missed a departure. I suppose if GNE did offer a service from Park Lane along the coast though Roker, Seaburn, Whitburn, South Shields, perhaps that would make it more appealing, use a GNE ticket (these days the 55 goes to Peterlee on Sundays, it didn’t at the time) and connecting in the same place you alight works so much better.
(30 Aug 2021, 1:38 pm)Drifter60 I have to agree that buses not using the same terminus is annoying. It’s not about the walk it’s about the fact it takes extra time and if connections are tight it’s the difference between making or missing your journey and adding god knows how long to travel, not so bad when it’s a leisure trip as such, but for commuting far from ideal. Park Lane is badly designed and why you certainly used to (don’t know if still happens, never been to PL in 18 months!) have people using Stand K as cross over to get to Stands N-T and potentially nearly getting wiped out by a bus in the process. However it does show that you can’t please everyone, because it actually annoyed me when buses don’t get straight to the interchange, the 61 now and the X6 used to, that loop of the city centre adds what I see as unnecessary time if I’m trying to make another connection to bus/metro.They could I suppose offer a extension to South Shields and advertise the low fares. Could possibly use the Drifter so like every 24 mins it extends to South Sheilds that way. They could trial it especially between May-Sept.
I’ll touch a little bit on bus vs car debate, a group of friends 4 of us were travelling to South Shields on a Sunday, 2 from Peterlee, 2 from Seaham. So it was two buses, an Arriva 22 or the GNE 60 to Sunderland and then we all had to walk across Fawcett Street for the Stagecoach E1. All this involved trying to coordinate timings, walk across Sunderland, buy two day (or return) tickets - day rovers and network one not valid for us coming from County Durham. We also misssed an E1 because it departed four minutes after the 60 arrived in. The Arriva 22 also finishes about 6/7 on a Sunday too so timings were tight for the return leg. To be honest, whole thing was faff. Next trip we decided to get pay my mates dad to drop off and pick up later. Gave him a fiver each, cheaper and more convenient. No worries about missing last buses for a Sunday evening, no buying two day tickets because cross operator travel tickets are practically non existing, no walking between bus connections and then waiting around because you’ve just missed a departure. I suppose if GNE did offer a service from Park Lane along the coast though Roker, Seaburn, Whitburn, South Shields, perhaps that would make it more appealing, use a GNE ticket (these days the 55 goes to Peterlee on Sundays, it didn’t at the time) and connecting in the same place you alight works so much better.
(30 Aug 2021, 1:38 pm)Drifter60 I have to agree that buses not using the same terminus is annoying. It’s not about the walk it’s about the fact it takes extra time and if connections are tight it’s the difference between making or missing your journey and adding god knows how long to travel, not so bad when it’s a leisure trip as such, but for commuting far from ideal. Park Lane is badly designed and why you certainly used to (don’t know if still happens, never been to PL in 18 months!) have people using Stand K as cross over to get to Stands N-T and potentially nearly getting wiped out by a bus in the process. However it does show that you can’t please everyone, because it actually annoyed me when buses don’t get straight to the interchange, the 61 now and the X6 used to, that loop of the city centre adds what I see as unnecessary time if I’m trying to make another connection to bus/metro.They could I suppose offer a extension to South Shields and advertise the low fares. Could possibly use the Drifter so like every 24 mins it extends to South Sheilds that way. They could trial it especially between May-Sept.
I’ll touch a little bit on bus vs car debate, a group of friends 4 of us were travelling to South Shields on a Sunday, 2 from Peterlee, 2 from Seaham. So it was two buses, an Arriva 22 or the GNE 60 to Sunderland and then we all had to walk across Fawcett Street for the Stagecoach E1. All this involved trying to coordinate timings, walk across Sunderland, buy two day (or return) tickets - day rovers and network one not valid for us coming from County Durham. We also misssed an E1 because it departed four minutes after the 60 arrived in. The Arriva 22 also finishes about 6/7 on a Sunday too so timings were tight for the return leg. To be honest, whole thing was faff. Next trip we decided to get pay my mates dad to drop off and pick up later. Gave him a fiver each, cheaper and more convenient. No worries about missing last buses for a Sunday evening, no buying two day tickets because cross operator travel tickets are practically non existing, no walking between bus connections and then waiting around because you’ve just missed a departure. I suppose if GNE did offer a service from Park Lane along the coast though Roker, Seaburn, Whitburn, South Shields, perhaps that would make it more appealing, use a GNE ticket (these days the 55 goes to Peterlee on Sundays, it didn’t at the time) and connecting in the same place you alight works so much better.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:34 pm)Keeiajs They could I suppose offer a extension to South Shields and advertise the low fares. Could possibly use the Drifter so like every 24 mins it extends to South Sheilds that way. They could trial it especially between May-Sept.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:34 pm)Keeiajs They could I suppose offer a extension to South Shields and advertise the low fares. Could possibly use the Drifter so like every 24 mins it extends to South Sheilds that way. They could trial it especially between May-Sept.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm)Dan Aside from Drifter60's example (which is just one case, on one day), is there really much of a demand for a through service from Parkside and Seaham through to Seaburn and South Shields? I don't understand the growing obsession with this proposed route.
Leisure facilities at Seaburn are growing (Stack, pubs, restaurants, etc), and whilst you could say a proactive operator would be capitalising on this, I really don't think extending the 60 is the right option. There needs to be more than just leisure to warrant this kind of thing (i.e. with the extension of the 21 to Brandon, there's leisure at Arnison Centre, education at New College, and work).
No doubt I'll be shot down for saying this, but there can't be a bus provided for every eventuality. With the impending BSIP, it'd be more likely to expect an enhancement to Network One ticketing and better integration of existing services.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm)Dan Aside from Drifter60's example (which is just one case, on one day), is there really much of a demand for a through service from Parkside and Seaham through to Seaburn and South Shields? I don't understand the growing obsession with this proposed route.
Leisure facilities at Seaburn are growing (Stack, pubs, restaurants, etc), and whilst you could say a proactive operator would be capitalising on this, I really don't think extending the 60 is the right option. There needs to be more than just leisure to warrant this kind of thing (i.e. with the extension of the 21 to Brandon, there's leisure at Arnison Centre, education at New College, and work).
No doubt I'll be shot down for saying this, but there can't be a bus provided for every eventuality. With the impending BSIP, it'd be more likely to expect an enhancement to Network One ticketing and better integration of existing services.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm)Dan Aside from Drifter60's example (which is just one case, on one day), is there really much of a demand for a through service from Parkside and Seaham through to Seaburn and South Shields? I don't understand the growing obsession with this proposed route.I mean, Idk whether there is much there is some. However I think it would be more to take on the E's On Sunderland to South Sheilds as GNE do have cheaper fares especially for under 18's than SC or Arriva
Leisure facilities at Seaburn are growing (Stack, pubs, restaurants, etc), and whilst you could say a proactive operator would be capitalising on this, I really don't think extending the 60 is the right option. There needs to be more than just leisure to warrant this kind of thing (i.e. with the extension of the 21 to Brandon, there's leisure at Arnison Centre, education at New College, and work).
No doubt I'll be shot down for saying this, but there can't be a bus provided for every eventuality. With the impending BSIP, it'd be more likely to expect an enhancement to Network One ticketing and better integration of existing services.
(30 Aug 2021, 2:56 pm)Dan Aside from Drifter60's example (which is just one case, on one day), is there really much of a demand for a through service from Parkside and Seaham through to Seaburn and South Shields? I don't understand the growing obsession with this proposed route.I mean, Idk whether there is much there is some. However I think it would be more to take on the E's On Sunderland to South Sheilds as GNE do have cheaper fares especially for under 18's than SC or Arriva
Leisure facilities at Seaburn are growing (Stack, pubs, restaurants, etc), and whilst you could say a proactive operator would be capitalising on this, I really don't think extending the 60 is the right option. There needs to be more than just leisure to warrant this kind of thing (i.e. with the extension of the 21 to Brandon, there's leisure at Arnison Centre, education at New College, and work).
No doubt I'll be shot down for saying this, but there can't be a bus provided for every eventuality. With the impending BSIP, it'd be more likely to expect an enhancement to Network One ticketing and better integration of existing services.
(30 Aug 2021, 3:55 pm)Keeiajs I mean, Idk whether there is much there is some. However I think it would be more to take on the E's On Sunderland to South Sheilds as GNE do have cheaper fares especially for under 18's than SC or Arriva
Also BSIP?
(30 Aug 2021, 3:55 pm)Keeiajs I mean, Idk whether there is much there is some. However I think it would be more to take on the E's On Sunderland to South Sheilds as GNE do have cheaper fares especially for under 18's than SC or Arriva
Also BSIP?
