Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2013
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - March 2013
When is the strike supposed to be, and will it be all depots?
(10 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm)Daniel Not the answer you want to hear but.....all depots
More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm)Daniel Not the answer you want to hear but.....all depots
Probably a stupid question, but will this include things like scholars buses and the 'Nexus' services?
(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:49 pm)idiot anyone else think it should be 36x?! x36 hasn't not long being in use!
(10 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm)Daniel Not the answer you want to hear but.....all depots
Probably a stupid question, but will this include things like scholars buses and the 'Nexus' services?
(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:49 pm)idiot anyone else think it should be 36x?! x36 hasn't not long being in use!
I really hope they don't strike - or if they do, just having everything on a reduced Sunday service or something like that.
Thanks Daniel
(10 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
I really hope it doesn't - or if it does, just having everything on a reduced Sunday service or something like that.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
I really hope it doesn't - or if it does, just having everything on a reduced Sunday service or something like that.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Daniel Always disliked having the 'X' at the end of the service number. Something about it really bugs me - doesn't quite have the same ring as the 'X' in front and then the number! Doubt it'll be confusing though - they barely follow the same route, do they?
(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Daniel Always disliked having the 'X' at the end of the service number. Something about it really bugs me - doesn't quite have the same ring as the 'X' in front and then the number! Doubt it'll be confusing though - they barely follow the same route, do they?
(10 Mar 2013, 3:03 pm)idiot(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Daniel Always disliked having the 'X' at the end of the service number. Something about it really bugs me - doesn't quite have the same ring as the 'X' in front and then the number! Doubt it'll be confusing though - they barely follow the same route, do they?
Yes, but some people are easily confused.
(10 Mar 2013, 3:03 pm)idiot(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Daniel Always disliked having the 'X' at the end of the service number. Something about it really bugs me - doesn't quite have the same ring as the 'X' in front and then the number! Doubt it'll be confusing though - they barely follow the same route, do they?
Yes, but some people are easily confused.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
I really hope it doesn't - or if it does, just having everything on a reduced Sunday service or something like that.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm)Daniel Not the answer you want to hear but.....all depots
Probably a stupid question, but will this include things like scholars buses and the 'Nexus' services?
(10 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm)Adam Malarkey More than likely get called off anyway I think, look at it this way would GNE really want to lose out on 3 days travel takings, which I assume would be quite a substantial amount of money for that small period.
As for who will operate the services if does go ahead I haven't a clue, I can see Nexus although some may say it nothing to do with them, stepping in and sorting it all out.
I would think Independent companies like Weardale would operate a few services if need be like what they do for Arriva on Boxing Day. I can also see Arriva operating some services as GNE operates some of there services on boxing day also, so they could return the favour so to speak.
Just going to have to wait and see what happens.
I really hope it doesn't - or if it does, just having everything on a reduced Sunday service or something like that.
(10 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm)tom.robinson206(10 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm)Daniel Not the answer you want to hear but.....all depots
Probably a stupid question, but will this include things like scholars buses and the 'Nexus' services?
(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
(10 Mar 2013, 3:13 pm)Daniel(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
I don't know if, in 2009 (the strike that I mentioned above), drivers were temporarily brought over from other depots to cover for those striking or not, but it seems an approximation of a Sunday service was being covered that day?
Obviously won't be possible to have a Sunday service if that was the case, as all depots are affected this time around.
(10 Mar 2013, 3:13 pm)Daniel(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
I don't know if, in 2009 (the strike that I mentioned above), drivers were temporarily brought over from other depots to cover for those striking or not, but it seems an approximation of a Sunday service was being covered that day?
Obviously won't be possible to have a Sunday service if that was the case, as all depots are affected this time around.
(10 Mar 2013, 3:56 pm)Brandon(10 Mar 2013, 3:13 pm)Daniel(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
I don't know if, in 2009 (the strike that I mentioned above), drivers were temporarily brought over from other depots to cover for those striking or not, but it seems an approximation of a Sunday service was being covered that day?
Obviously won't be possible to have a Sunday service if that was the case, as all depots are affected this time around.
Previous strike day was on 24 August 2009 at Washington and Deptford only. A token £1 flat fare was in operation on that day (made the most of a trip to Newcastle!) - and Yellow Bus Volvo Olympians were drafted in for operation on a number of routes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8216664.stm
http://www.travelnortheast.co.uk/news/st...Today.html
(10 Mar 2013, 3:56 pm)Brandon(10 Mar 2013, 3:13 pm)Daniel(10 Mar 2013, 3:06 pm)citaro5284 Lets think about it, months of talking has lead to nowhere, so unless there is more talking done, it will go ahead. You say GNE don't want to lose takings which will be right, but where will the extra money come from to pay what the unions are wanting, somebody will have to give.
Most drivers will not cross a picket line even if they are not in a union, so cannot really operate a reduced Sunday service as this will still take quite a large amount of drivers.
I don't know if, in 2009 (the strike that I mentioned above), drivers were temporarily brought over from other depots to cover for those striking or not, but it seems an approximation of a Sunday service was being covered that day?
Obviously won't be possible to have a Sunday service if that was the case, as all depots are affected this time around.
Previous strike day was on 24 August 2009 at Washington and Deptford only. A token £1 flat fare was in operation on that day (made the most of a trip to Newcastle!) - and Yellow Bus Volvo Olympians were drafted in for operation on a number of routes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8216664.stm
http://www.travelnortheast.co.uk/news/st...Today.html
GNE have posted on a post today about the strike.. more info will be given tommorow (11.3.13), for strike action.
The post.
When will there be strike action? What bus services will be affected
Go North East: There will be a update on this matter on Monday.
I really hope stagecoach don't strike, im at work early this week -.-
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Has anyone got a leaflet for the X3 changes, its not included in the North Sunderland one but the 9 is, don't know if the X3 will have a separate leaflet.
(10 Mar 2013, 4:14 pm)Michael GNE have posted on a post today about the strike.. more info will be given tommorow (11.3.13), for strike action.
The post.
When will there be strike action? What bus services will be affected
Go North East: There will be a update on this matter on Monday.
I really hope stagecoach don't strike, im at work early this week -.-
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Has anyone got a leaflet for the X3 changes, its not included in the North Sunderland one but the 9 is, don't know if the X3 will have a separate leaflet.
(10 Mar 2013, 4:14 pm)Michael GNE have posted on a post today about the strike.. more info will be given tommorow (11.3.13), for strike action.
The post.
When will there be strike action? What bus services will be affected
Go North East: There will be a update on this matter on Monday.
I really hope stagecoach don't strike, im at work early this week -.-
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Has anyone got a leaflet for the X3 changes, its not included in the North Sunderland one but the 9 is, don't know if the X3 will have a separate leaflet.
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I haven't seen the North Sunderland consultation, but it would make sense to have a separate leaflet for changes to 9 and X3. You say the 9 is mentioned in the North Sunderland leaflet about it increasing to every 20 minutes to cover for loss of 26, but perhaps there are further changes planned that would not impact residents of North Sunderland. Maybe changes are planned for North Tyneside too. I struggle to see how a 20 minute service to/from North Shields could be justified when the half hourly service seems to suit fine.
I plan on doing the 9, 26 then 36 on my way back home tomorrow again, so I'll see if there are different leaflets out on the buses.
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Same but tbh i just think GNE want to brand the 9 so they increasing the PRV haha
Im trying to work out the PVR for the proposed services.
So far it looks like AND these are just my guesses, sorry i know its far to early but im bored, its a Sunday.
9 - 6 Buses PRV, unless thier are other changes past Jarrow, nothing is confirmed yet.
26 - will drop to 3 PVR - Hope this means it will get good buses, if its changing.
36 - Will take around 1 hour (a guess) every 30 mins on a loop, after the enterprise park it will go towards B&Q and enter the town from Green Terrance (my guess) - 3 buses, just to be safe.
36 on peak times - Can see it increasing to 4, depending on what they class as peak time buses and that PVR.
X36 - 4 buses
99 - Probleys be sticking to its 4 PRV
X3 - No idea what is happening.
The leaflet I picked up the 2C titled "Sunderland Bus Briefing" is for Sunderland/Houghton and Seaham Areas.
It includes information for the following services
38/38A/38B
65
202
203
238
And the new X7
There nothing about the 9/X3/99/26/36 and the new X36 at all. Which I don't understand considering these services operate in the Sunderland Area