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Dan
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18 Jan 2014, 9:33 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:30 pm)speedwheels22 With the riverside opening will we see some winlaton branded buses on other routes exapmle 27 and sunderland rd branded buses on there's exapmle 10 r somthing

We shouldn't, but it's quite likely that we will.
How long do you give it before a former Winlaton bus ends up appearing on a Saltmeadows route? TENs on the 29 before you know it!
Dan
18 Jan 2014, 9:33 pm #1021

(18 Jan 2014, 9:30 pm)speedwheels22 With the riverside opening will we see some winlaton branded buses on other routes exapmle 27 and sunderland rd branded buses on there's exapmle 10 r somthing

We shouldn't, but it's quite likely that we will.
How long do you give it before a former Winlaton bus ends up appearing on a Saltmeadows route? TENs on the 29 before you know it!

3238
18 Jan 2014, 9:36 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:33 pm)Dan We shouldn't, but it's quite likely that we will.
How long do you give it before a former Winlaton bus ends up appearing on a Saltmeadows route? TENs on the 29 before you know it!

The routes going from Saltmeadows to Riverside are X40, 67, 69, S1 and I think the 353.
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 9:36 pm #1022

(18 Jan 2014, 9:33 pm)Dan We shouldn't, but it's quite likely that we will.
How long do you give it before a former Winlaton bus ends up appearing on a Saltmeadows route? TENs on the 29 before you know it!

The routes going from Saltmeadows to Riverside are X40, 67, 69, S1 and I think the 353.

3238
18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

Why move the 5 to a location further away from where it operates. The routes that are moving operate pretty close to Riverside apart from 353 and X40, but that is just a quick drive up the A1 to either Great Park or Kingston Park.
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm #1023

(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

Why move the 5 to a location further away from where it operates. The routes that are moving operate pretty close to Riverside apart from 353 and X40, but that is just a quick drive up the A1 to either Great Park or Kingston Park.

850
18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

Probably the dead mileage... it's already quite far from South Shields/Jarrow to Saltmeadows Road.
BJ10VUS
18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm #1024

(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

Probably the dead mileage... it's already quite far from South Shields/Jarrow to Saltmeadows Road.

6064
18 Jan 2014, 9:53 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

It would cost more to run the 5 from Riverside as it's further away than Saltmeadows which is closer to the routes starting point, and I can't see the point in the 353 moving over to riverside, but not the rest of the Nexus Routes, seems illogical to me.

I think we are more likely to see the more obvious odd working happen than the mega rare ones, for example

Ten on the TTX or Blaydon Racers on The Crusader or The Loop/Highwayman on the Toonlink and Vice Versa.
Malarkey
18 Jan 2014, 9:53 pm #1025

(18 Jan 2014, 9:42 pm)speedwheels22 Silly question lol I thought saltmedows was just a repair depot didn't know they had buses run from there but why isn't the 5 going there

It would cost more to run the 5 from Riverside as it's further away than Saltmeadows which is closer to the routes starting point, and I can't see the point in the 353 moving over to riverside, but not the rest of the Nexus Routes, seems illogical to me.

I think we are more likely to see the more obvious odd working happen than the mega rare ones, for example

Ten on the TTX or Blaydon Racers on The Crusader or The Loop/Highwayman on the Toonlink and Vice Versa.

3238
18 Jan 2014, 9:57 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:53 pm)Adam Malarkey I think we are more likely to see the more obvious odd working happen than the mega rare ones, for example

Ten on the TTX

6071 and 3941 are the only TEN deckers with a tachograph, so it will be very rare you will see a TEN on TTX unless it is one of those two.
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 9:57 pm #1026

(18 Jan 2014, 9:53 pm)Adam Malarkey I think we are more likely to see the more obvious odd working happen than the mega rare ones, for example

Ten on the TTX

6071 and 3941 are the only TEN deckers with a tachograph, so it will be very rare you will see a TEN on TTX unless it is one of those two.

5327
18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:57 pm)citaro5284 I think only 1 TEN decker has a tachograph, so it will be very rare you will see a TEN on TTX

3941? Haha

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tyresmoke
18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm #1027

(18 Jan 2014, 9:57 pm)citaro5284 I think only 1 TEN decker has a tachograph, so it will be very rare you will see a TEN on TTX

3941? Haha


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18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm)BJ10VUS Probably the dead mileage... it's already quite far from South Shields/Jarrow to Saltmeadows Road.

Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.
minibus1474
18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm #1028

(18 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm)BJ10VUS Probably the dead mileage... it's already quite far from South Shields/Jarrow to Saltmeadows Road.

Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.

Tom
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18 Jan 2014, 10:00 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.

Good idea Wink
Tom
18 Jan 2014, 10:00 pm #1029

(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.

Good idea Wink

3238
18 Jan 2014, 10:03 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)tyresmoke 3941? Haha

Could not get to Middlesbrough and back when at Sunderland Rd, so good luck whoever gets that to drive Big Grin
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 10:03 pm #1030

(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)tyresmoke 3941? Haha

Could not get to Middlesbrough and back when at Sunderland Rd, so good luck whoever gets that to drive Big Grin

18 Jan 2014, 10:05 pm
Every time a 5 bus passes a south tyneside one its sounds like its going to blow up r somthing and I'm always passing a thew that r broken down think its about time to look at the route and look for new buses for this route
speedwheels22
18 Jan 2014, 10:05 pm #1031

Every time a 5 bus passes a south tyneside one its sounds like its going to blow up r somthing and I'm always passing a thew that r broken down think its about time to look at the route and look for new buses for this route

3238
18 Jan 2014, 10:05 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

So then the 5's would not then be low cost. Dead Mileage to SMR will still work out cheaper. Something that looks ideal is not normally the correct solution when all the costs are analysed.
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 10:05 pm #1032

(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Would be very little dead mileage if the 5 was interworked with the new short 9's and transferred to Deptford. 8267-8273 could then be used (7 buses for pvr=7), with 8242-46 painted red and used on 67/69 to allow 5160-64 to be withdrawn. Evening/Sunday 5's could've been interworked with 35 at South Shields using Laser buses.

So then the 5's would not then be low cost. Dead Mileage to SMR will still work out cheaper. Something that looks ideal is not normally the correct solution when all the costs are analysed.

Dan
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18 Jan 2014, 10:06 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)tyresmoke 3941? Haha

3941/42 and 6071 are all fitted with tachographs. These are the "TEN" branded vehicles which could appear on the "Tyne Tees Xpress".
Dan
18 Jan 2014, 10:06 pm #1033

(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)tyresmoke 3941? Haha

3941/42 and 6071 are all fitted with tachographs. These are the "TEN" branded vehicles which could appear on the "Tyne Tees Xpress".

3238
18 Jan 2014, 10:07 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 10:06 pm)Dan 3941/42 and 6071 are all fitted with tachographs. These are the "TEN" branded vehicles which could appear on the "Tyne Tees Xpress".

3942 is based at Hexham according to the fleet lists, so that is why I ruled that one out.
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 10:07 pm #1034

(18 Jan 2014, 10:06 pm)Dan 3941/42 and 6071 are all fitted with tachographs. These are the "TEN" branded vehicles which could appear on the "Tyne Tees Xpress".

3942 is based at Hexham according to the fleet lists, so that is why I ruled that one out.

3238
18 Jan 2014, 10:09 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.

Would Gateshead Trade Union quite willingly give up some commercial work for it to be sent to Saltmeadows.....I think we both know that answer!
citaro5284
18 Jan 2014, 10:09 pm #1035

(18 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm)benwell3031 Replacement work for Saltmeadows could've been New X36, or Fab57.

Would Gateshead Trade Union quite willingly give up some commercial work for it to be sent to Saltmeadows.....I think we both know that answer!

18 Jan 2014, 10:22 pm
They give up everything else...boom boom!
westy3738
18 Jan 2014, 10:22 pm #1036

They give up everything else...boom boom!

1525
18 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm
On the updated Cobalt Clipper page on GNE's website it states: "Next stop announcements and display screens will also be added very soon".

I take it by that they just mean once the new buses enter service? Just when I first read it I took it as the new buses either don't have the audio/visual equipment in yet, or it won't be working straight away??? Confused

Just struck me as odd how they listed all the features of the new buses, then stated the next stop announcements & screens "will also be added soon".
ne14ne1
18 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm #1037

On the updated Cobalt Clipper page on GNE's website it states: "Next stop announcements and display screens will also be added very soon".

I take it by that they just mean once the new buses enter service? Just when I first read it I took it as the new buses either don't have the audio/visual equipment in yet, or it won't be working straight away??? Confused

Just struck me as odd how they listed all the features of the new buses, then stated the next stop announcements & screens "will also be added soon".

Dan
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18138
18 Jan 2014, 11:23 pm
(18 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm)ne14ne1 On the updated Cobalt Clipper page on GNE's website it states: "Next stop announcements and display screens will also be added very soon".

I take it by that they just mean once the new buses enter service? Just when I first read it I took it as the new buses either don't have the audio/visual equipment in yet, or it won't be working straight away??? Confused

Just struck me as odd how they listed all the features of the new buses, then stated the next stop announcements & screens "will also be added soon".

If you look back a page or two you will see a link to the photos I took at Riverside (including silver B9TLs). They certainly appear to have the screens.

Like the Fab56 and Venture, the Next Stop Announcements may not be done immediately though.
Dan
18 Jan 2014, 11:23 pm #1038

(18 Jan 2014, 11:17 pm)ne14ne1 On the updated Cobalt Clipper page on GNE's website it states: "Next stop announcements and display screens will also be added very soon".

I take it by that they just mean once the new buses enter service? Just when I first read it I took it as the new buses either don't have the audio/visual equipment in yet, or it won't be working straight away??? Confused

Just struck me as odd how they listed all the features of the new buses, then stated the next stop announcements & screens "will also be added soon".

If you look back a page or two you will see a link to the photos I took at Riverside (including silver B9TLs). They certainly appear to have the screens.

Like the Fab56 and Venture, the Next Stop Announcements may not be done immediately though.

18 Jan 2014, 11:44 pm
With regards to the 353 moving to Riverside. This Nexus Bus route has it's own little pool of Solos (637-639) which are slightly longer then the other Nexus Bus Solos. However it does reduce the flexibility of having the spare out of 637-639 running on other routes, but there is nothing stopping them lending them to Saltmeadows for a day.

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Rapidsnap
18 Jan 2014, 11:44 pm #1039

With regards to the 353 moving to Riverside. This Nexus Bus route has it's own little pool of Solos (637-639) which are slightly longer then the other Nexus Bus Solos. However it does reduce the flexibility of having the spare out of 637-639 running on other routes, but there is nothing stopping them lending them to Saltmeadows for a day.


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Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

19 Jan 2014, 12:16 am
I hope the crusader,blaydon racers and the centurion brands get updated coz to me they look like Temporary brands not much effort is being put into the brands anymore some are great and some have gone down hill exapmle X66 and the loop
speedwheels22
19 Jan 2014, 12:16 am #1040

I hope the crusader,blaydon racers and the centurion brands get updated coz to me they look like Temporary brands not much effort is being put into the brands anymore some are great and some have gone down hill exapmle X66 and the loop

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