(23 Mar 2022, 3:30 pm)Storx wrote
Do public buses even pay for the Tunnel? I don't know btw, just had a feeling they might have an exception for them.

Either way unless there's a mass timetable change Percy Main can't run the 26 all day anyway since it interworks with the 50 and there's a 24 minute wait at South Shields. The only boards that realistically they could cover are the 2 evening boards which run empty from Washington and run alone which the £3.33 (if they pay it) would be cheaper than running empty.

I am sure the 310 from sunderland to blyth the driver stopped at the toll booth and paid something then drove on

(23 Mar 2022, 4:36 pm)Rob44 wrote I am sure the 310 from sunderland to blyth the driver stopped at the toll booth and paid something then drove on

Didn’t the buses on the 310/319 have a thing next to the window screen so when the bus approached the barrier it detected it and then the barrier lifted up


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(23 Mar 2022, 6:07 pm)cbma06 wrote Didn’t the buses on the 310/319 have a thing next to the window screen so when the bus approached the barrier it detected it and then the barrier lifted up


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When the 9 used to go through the Tunnel the driver had this wooden like sign thing with a handle.

But I used to see NIS 309/310s go through the Tyne Tunnel all the time when they had citaros. 

I thought they went through for free

(23 Mar 2022, 6:07 pm)cbma06 wrote Didn’t the buses on the 310/319 have a thing next to the window screen so when the bus approached the barrier it detected it and then the barrier lifted up


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we are talking 30 plus years ago. I just remeber sitting on the triple seat upstairs at the front and the driver clicking his change dispenser then driving off.

The 11 going through the tunnel went down a different road to get into the tunnel towards Jarrow. However the 10 to North Shields went past the toll booth

The 26 will be ran out of Percy Main along with the 82/84/85 in the evening only. The Q3 is being run from Percy Main all day

And yes its a temporary thing, meaning at least 4 months or so, in order to free up staff to reduce the number of cancellations in the day for both Washington and Riverside

(23 Mar 2022, 7:44 pm)soxet12 wrote The 26 will be ran out of Percy Main along with the 82/84/85 in the evening only. The Q3 is being run from Percy Main all day

And yes its a temporary thing, meaning at least 4 months or so, in order to free up staff to reduce the number of cancellations in the day for both Washington and Riverside

Wonder what they'll use on these services.

(23 Mar 2022, 7:44 pm)soxet12 wrote The 26 will be ran out of Percy Main along with the 82/84/85 in the evening only. The Q3 is being run from Percy Main all day

And yes its a temporary thing, meaning at least 4 months or so, in order to free up staff to reduce the number of cancellations in the day for both Washington and Riverside

a pity the Q3 isn’t still running to Wallsend - no doubt there will be a lot of vans shuttling drivers to/from Percy Main

I'm sure this has been posted somewhere but I can't find it - which of the Solos have been listed for sale as a result of the forthcoming changes?

(23 Mar 2022, 9:25 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote I'm sure this has been posted somewhere but I can't find it - which of the Solos have been listed for sale as a result of the forthcoming changes?

625,626,627,628,631,632,633,634 & 639

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(23 Mar 2022, 8:22 pm)Unber43 wrote Wonder what they'll use on these services.

Depending on how many the buses the 26 require. If it require 2 on a evening then the two StreetLite from the 41/41A

82/84/85 might use the rest of the Solos at Percy Main (not the little coaster branded ones 691,695)

What happened to the Old Sunderland Connect Buses

(23 Mar 2022, 6:52 pm)Train8261 wrote The 11 going through the tunnel went down a different road to get into the tunnel towards Jarrow. However the 10 to North Shields went past the toll booth

Southbound tunnel was built with an alternative entrance for maintenance and emergency vehicles, they also let buses use it. Northbound has no such facility.

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(23 Mar 2022, 6:40 pm)Unber43 wrote When the 9 used to go through the Tunnel the driver had this wooden like sign thing with a handle.

But I used to see NIS 309/310s go through the Tyne Tunnel all the time when they had citaros. 

I thought they went through for free

Probably a permit they used.

With ANPR being used now both cash and permits are redundant. I'd imagine that GNE could negotiate discounted rates for buses?

(23 Mar 2022, 10:02 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Southbound tunnel was built with an alternative entrance for maintenance and emergency vehicles, they also let buses use it. Northbound has no such facility.

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Probably a permit they used.

With ANPR being used now both cash and permits are redundant. I'd imagine that GNE could negotiate discounted rates for buses?

I thought buses were free.

(23 Mar 2022, 9:27 pm)Train8261 wrote 625,626,627,628,631,632,633,634 & 639

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Depending on how many the buses the 26 require. If it require 2 on a evening then the two StreetLite from the 41/41A

82/84/85 might use the rest of the Solos at Percy Main (not the little coaster branded ones 691,695)

Thanks, wonder if they will leave 691/3-5 Little Coasters branded and run the 19 or 41 under that brand to save repainting them?

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(23 Mar 2022, 9:37 pm)Unber43 wrote What happened to the Old Sunderland Connect Buses

All ended up here (not my photo): https://www.flickr.com/photos/156863636@...644317213/

From one hideous livery to another!

(23 Mar 2022, 10:18 pm)Unber43 wrote I thought buses were free.

May be the case for service buses, but if not then its £3.33 for prepaid travel.

(23 Mar 2022, 9:27 pm)Train8261 wrote 625,626,627,628,631,632,633,634 & 639

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Depending on how many the buses the 26 require. If it require 2 on a evening then the two StreetLite from the 41/41A

82/84/85 might use the rest of the Solos at Percy Main (not the little coaster branded ones 691,695)

(23 Mar 2022, 10:26 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Thanks, wonder if they will leave 691/3-5 Little Coasters branded and run the 19 or 41 under that brand to save repainting them?

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Firstly, the new PVR for the 41/41A is 3 not 2, and looking at the timetable the evening 26 seemingly would need 4 buses.

It's already been confirmed that as the 19 is contracted to run with larger buses that most of Streetlites 8339-8346 will be transferring to Percy Main for both the 41/41A and 19, so 691/3-5 will almost certainly be getting a repaint. Tbh idek if those Solo's will stay at Percy Main cause what would they be used on...the Streetlites would be more than enough for the evening runs they're getting. I imagine they'll be hanging onto those Solo's to see the outcome of more Nexus and DCC contracts later this year, unless another service elsewhere is due to undergo conversion to minibus (something will be needed at Deptford for the 5/9 after all).

(24 Mar 2022, 1:24 am)peter wrote Firstly, the new PVR for the 41/41A is 3 not 2, and looking at the timetable the evening 26 seemingly would need 4 buses.

It's already been confirmed that as the 19 is contracted to run with larger buses that most of Streetlites 8339-8346 will be transferring to Percy Main for both the 41/41A and 19, so 691/3-5 will almost certainly be getting a repaint. Tbh idek if those Solo's will stay at Percy Main cause what would they be used on...the Streetlites would be more than enough for the evening runs they're getting. I imagine they'll be hanging onto those Solo's to see the outcome of more Nexus and DCC contracts later this year, unless another service elsewhere is due to undergo conversion to minibus (something will be needed at Deptford for the 5/9 after all).

Has it actually been confirmed that the 41/41A is all being ran by the 83xx Streetlites? 

I have a feeling that it might be like the 67/69 in Gateshead where it's just ran with whatever isn't on the road from the 1/19/Q3/Deckers

Can't imagine they will they send 6 or 7 / 8 out of a batch of unique buses it just doesn't make much sense. 

Also I can image it will only be 2/4 of the 26 boards ran by Percy Main. The other 2 work with the 50 so wouldn't really work without timetable changes.

8344 is already at Percy Main, it saw it on the 310 or 311 yesterday.

(24 Mar 2022, 8:03 am)Storx wrote Has it actually been confirmed that the 41/41A is all being ran by the 83xx Streetlites? 

I have a feeling that it might be like the 67/69 in Gateshead where it's just ran with whatever isn't on the road from the 1/19/Q3/Deckers

Can't imagine they will they send 6 or 7 / 8 out of a batch of unique buses it just doesn't make much sense. 

Also I can image it will only be 2/4 of the 26 boards ran by Percy Main. The other 2 work with the 50 so wouldn't really work without timetable changes.

It was confirmed on this Flickr post by Dan that the batch of 8 would be split for service 19/41
https://flic.kr/p/2n5SK4q

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(24 Mar 2022, 8:54 am)RMF1254 wrote 8344 is already at Percy Main, it saw it on the 310 or 311 yesterday.

8343 is at Percy Main as well

The 26 could have interworked with the 5 at Jarrow allowing changeovers to be done at a Jarrow Bus Station with all boards ran by Percy Main. The 9 & 50 could be standalone, remaining at Deptford and Washington. Perhaps you could even give the 50 a summer extension to the seafront area too.

(24 Mar 2022, 9:57 am)Drifter60 wrote The 26 could have interworked with the 5 at Jarrow allowing changeovers to be done at a Jarrow Bus Station with all boards ran by Percy Main. The 9 & 50 could be standalone, remaining at Deptford and Washington. Perhaps you could even give the 50 a summer extension to the seafront area too.

It's only the evening journeys on service 26 which are going to be operated by Percy Main (the transfer of the evening journeys on service 26 and Washington local services, plus service Q3 all day offsets the driver reduction due to service cancellation and contract loss at Percy Main). Daytime journeys on service 26 will still run from Washington and interwork with service 50.

(24 Mar 2022, 10:54 am)Dan wrote It's only the evening journeys on service 26 which are going to be operated by Percy Main (the transfer of the evening journeys on service 26 and Washington local services, plus service Q3 all day offsets the driver reduction due to service cancellation and contract loss at Percy Main). Daytime journeys on service 26 will still run from Washington and interwork with service 50.

Yeah, I realised that was just saying hypothetically I suppose. Apologies if that wasn’t clear. I suppose changes such as that will depend on bigger changes in other areas, later in the year.

(24 Mar 2022, 11:09 am)Drifter60 wrote Yeah, I realised that was just saying hypothetically I suppose. Apologies if that wasn’t clear. I suppose changes such as that will depend on bigger changes in other areas, later in the year.

The 50 is getting a bit crowded at the minute, think it needs to be every 20 minutes. Does the 26 get enough use to warrent 3bph?

(24 Mar 2022, 1:00 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote The 50 is getting a bit crowded at the minute, think it needs to be every 20 minutes. Does the 26 get enough use to warrent 3bph?

Or it remains every 30 and gets allocated double-decks!

5x Streetdecks will be allocated (out of 11 PVR) from Monday.


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(24 Mar 2022, 1:12 pm)Dan wrote Or it remains every 30 and gets allocated double-decks!

5x Streetdecks will be allocated (out of 11 PVR) from Monday.


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Will the rest of the pvr be Streetlites?

(23 Mar 2022, 10:18 pm)Unber43 wrote I thought buses were free.

Buses and lorries using the Tyne Tunnels will face a price rise from April 2022.

From April 11, the toll for the tunnels will increase by 20p for drivers of Class 3 vehicles, which includes LGVs, buses and vans over 3.5 tonnes in weight.


https://www.sunderlandecho.com/business/...M4Dkp-uhhA


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(24 Mar 2022, 6:27 pm)Michael wrote PB0003954/1267
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Has they got a date on them

(24 Mar 2022, 6:30 pm)Train8261 wrote Has they got a date on them

No start dates on any of them.



Could the 65 be linked with May contract changes?

(24 Mar 2022, 6:37 pm)Michael wrote No start dates on any of them.



Could the 65 be linked with May contract changes?

Ah I see