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(22 Apr 2022, 12:40 pm)Unber43 wrote 78 have a longer layover in Sunderland, 78 has been delayed loads today and normal days, adding 1 to the PVR (durham culture one) may not be a bad idea to improve reliability
(22 Apr 2022, 1:58 pm)peter wrote The Durham Culture bus already makes up the PVR, the PVR is 8 since the service changes last year but there are only 7 branded busesOh, well they should make it a PVR of 9, Maybe 10-15 mins in Sunderland and 7 mins each when at Consett as they are becoming constantly late.
(12 Apr 2022, 9:13 pm)Malarkey wrote With Service Cuts seeming to becoming the new norm here in the North East I have had a look through the Go North East Network to see if some of services could be consolidated into others improving local services in terms of recovering passenger numbers following on from Covid-19, the method of consolidation worked in parts when Go North East had a massive shake up of it's services in 2006 and is clearly needed again some 16 years later given how much services have been chopped and changed. I guess I have done the same you say but in turn also provided a more stable network of services in the long term. I have spent quite a few hours over the past week working on these whilst also throwing in some throwback services of the late 80's/90's into the early 00's reinstating some long lost local links.Wonder if anyone from GNE would listen to these.
So here is a lengthy list of suggestions.
1 - Whitley Bay - Cullercoats - Tynemouth - North Shields - Howdon - Wallsend - Byker - Newcastle - Gateshead - Felling Square - Windy Nook - Whitehills Estate - Leam Lane Estate – Heworth – Wardley
• Merging of services “Coaster 1 & East Gateshead Rider 58” into one route operating Every 20 Minutes Monday to Sunday providing a Cross-City Links from Gateshead to The Coast.
• Current Route 58 is withdrawn.
X1 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Queen Elizabeth Hospital - Wrekenton - Springwell Village - Washington - Shiney Row - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton-le-Hole - Easington Lane
• Operates Every 20 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday between Newcastle and Easington Lane only.
• Section of the route between Hetton-Le-Hole and Dalton Park/Peterlee revised under the new X3.
2/2A - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Grindon - Hastings Hill - Penshaw - Fatfield - Harraton - Ayton – Lambton – Washington - Biddick (2) - Glebe (2A) - Washington Village (2A) - Barmston Court (2A) - Barmston - Peel Retail Park (2) – Concord
2B - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Grindon - Hastings Hill - Penshaw – Fatfield – Biddick – Washington – Oxclose – Blackfell – Concord
• Merging of Sunderland District Berries & Washington’s Little Pinks Network into one whole set of services without the need to change buses, in turn opening new and improved links from Washington to Sunderland.
• Services 2/2A/2B will operate Every 10 Minutes combined Monday to Saturday and Every 20 Minutes combined on a Sunday, this will see the withdrawal of Little Pinks Services 84/85.
• The Sunderland section of the current 2/2A will be replaced by Services 33/33A which will provide a clockwise/anti-clockwise loop between Sunderland and Silksworth.
• Existing 2/2A Services Withdrawn.
X2 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Q.E. Hospital – Wrekenton – Springwell – Washington – Penshaw – Grindon – Royal Hospital – Sunderland
• Service X2 is reinstated many years after it was withdrawn and will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
X3 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Queen Elizabeth Hospital - Wrekenton - Springwell Village - Washington - Shiney Row - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton-le-Hole - Easington Lane – Murton - Dalton Park – Peterlee
• Renumbered from X1 to separate route variations to Dalton Park and Peterlee.
• Section of Service from Dalton Park will be extended to Peterlee and will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sunday.
• Section of the current X1 from Hetton-Le-Hole to Peterlee will be withdrawn as it is already covered by Service 55.
X6 – Middlesbrough – Billingham – Station Town - Wingate - Peterlee - Dalton Park - Spectrum Business Park - Seaham - Grangetown – Sunderland
• Service extended Hourly from Peterlee to Middlesbrough reinstating old links from when the old X7 and X9 were withdrawn.
• Service will continue to operate Hourly as it does now.
8 - Waldridge - Garden Farm Estate - Chester-le-Street - Pelton - Ouston - Urpeth Grange - Birtley - Portobello - Ayton - Lambton - Washington - Glebe - Washington Village - Barmston Court – Teal Farm - Waterview Park – Castletown – Sunderland
• Country Ranger Service 8 will be revised and will merge with Little Pinks Service 82 from Washington Galleries to Birtley and will then be extended from Birtley to merge with Service 34 through to Waldridge Park creating several new local links.
• The Current section of Service 8 between Washington Galleries and Chester-Le-Street will be replaced by the revised Service 50 so that current links are maintained.
• Service 8 will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sundays.
• Service 8/34 & 82 Withdrawn.
X8 - Stanley - Beamish - Grange Villa - Pelton - Chester-le-Street - Washington - Waterview Park - Royal Hospital – Sunderland
• Service X8 will be reintroduced covering the section of current Service 8 between Stanley and Chester-Le-Street maintaining current links whilst also providing a faster express service from Chester-Le-Street to Sunderland via Washington, Service X8 will run Every 30 Minutes. Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
9 - Whitley Bay – New York – Cobalt Business Park – Silverlink – Tyne Tunnel Trading Estate - Jarrow – South Leam – Valley View - Boldon Colliery - West Boldon - East Boldon - Fulwell – Sunderland
• Current Service 9 will be extended from Jarrow through to Whitley Bay via Silverlink & Cobalt opening new business and retail links from North of the Tyne.
• Service 9 will continue to operate its current frequency Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sundays.
11 - Tyne View Retail Park - Prudhoe - Crawcrook - Ryton - Blaydon - Metrocentre – Newcastle
• Service 10B will be renumbered 11, no other changes to the Service.
20 - Durham - Gilesgate - Belmont - West Rainton - East Rainton - Houghton-le-Spring - East Herrington – Sunderland
• Service revised to operate between Durham and Sunderland only with links maintained to South Shields via the revised service 60.
• Service 20 will operate Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday.
21 – Howlands Park & Ride – Durham University - Durham - Framwellgate Moor - Arnison Centre - Plawsworth - Chester-le-Street - Birtley - Low Fell - Gateshead – Newcastle
• Section of route between Durham & Brandon replaced by the X22.
• Service extended via N21 Route to Durham University and further to Howlands Park & Ride
• Service 21 will continue to operate to current frequency for the runs which operate to Durham.
X22 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Low Fell – Chester-Le-Street – Durham – Langley Moor - Brandon – Brancepeth – Crook – Bishop Auckland – Staindrop – Barnard Castle
• New Service X22 will operate Hourly Monday to Sundays replacing the 21 runs to Brandon.
• The Service will be extended from Brandon to Barnard Castle via Crook and Bishop Auckland opening several new links.
X23 - Newcastle – Gateshead – Low Fell – Chester-Le-Street – Durham – Langley Moor - Brandon – Brancepeth – Crook – Bishop Auckland – Shildon – Aycliffe Village – Darlington
• New Service X23 will operate Hourly Monday to Sundays replacing the 21 runs to Brandon.
• The Service will be extended from Brandon to Darlington via Crook and Bishop Auckland opening several new links.
X28 - Seaham - Northlea - Seaton - Houghton-le-Spring - Fence Houses - Great Lumley - Chester-le-Street – Birtley – Wrekenton – Q.E. Hospital – Gateshead – Newcastle
• New Service X28 will be introduced replacing existing service 71 which will be withdrawn with the service also seeing an extension through to Newcastle.
• Operates Hourly Monday to Sunday.
29 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Saltwell Road - Low Fell - Kibblesworth - Birtley - Ouston - Perkinsville - Pelton - Beamish - Grange Villa - Pelton Fell - Chester-le-Street
• Daytime Services 28A/29 will be merged with Evening Service 28B and will operate via the 28A/28B route running between Gateshead and Low Fell via Saltwell Road and Belle Vue Bank.
• The Service will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
30 - Stanley - Acton Dene - Sheridan Drive - Stanley Hall Estate – Craghead – Quaking Houses – South Moor – Stanley
• Services 30/31 merged providing one service which will additionally serve Craghead improving local links in Stanley,
• The Service will operate Hourly Monday to Sunday
33/33A - Silksworth - Hollycarrside - Grangetown - Sunderland - Barnes Park – Silksworth
• The Sunderland section of the current 2/2A will be replaced by Services 33/33A which will provide a clockwise/anti-clockwise loop between Sunderland and Silksworth.
• The revised 33/33A will operate Every 15 Minutes in both directions Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday.
• Current Service 2/2A withdrawn.
35 - South Shields – Tyne Dock - Jarrow – Hebburn – Lukes Lane Estate – Fellgate – Hedworth - Boldon – Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick – Sunderland
• Service 35 will be revised to operate its current route between Sunderland and Boldon with the service then extended from Boldon following the 5 route to Jarrow with additional extension via Tyne Dock to South Shields.
• Service 35 will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sunday.
• Service 5 withdrawn with revised service 50 replacing Boldon to South Shields section of the route.
• The Section of the current 35 between Sunderland and Low Moorsley will be replaced by revised service 55.
X45/X46 - Newcastle - Metrocentre - Rowlands Gill - Shotley Bridge - Consett – Delves
• Service extended from Consett to Delves replacing Services V1/V2 which will be withdrawn.
• Services X45/X46 will operate Every 15 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays.
48 - Consett - Number One - Shotley Bridge Hospital - The Dene – Hamsterley – Blackhall Mill – Rockwood Hill – Prudhoe – Crawcrook – Ryton – Blaydon – MetroCentre - Newcastle
• New Service 48 will replace the current V3 Service between Consett and The Dene which will be withdrawn, from The Dene the service will be extended to Newcastle via Blackhall Mill, Rockwood Hill and Blaydon replacing service 10A which will be withdrawn.
• Service 48 will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
• Service 10A/V3 Withdrawn.
50 - South Shields – Westoe - Chichester – South Tyneside Hospital – Whiteleas Estate - Boldon Colliery - Nissan - Concord - Washington – Biddick – Harraton – Rickleton – Picktree - Chester-le-Street
• Current Service 50 will serve a revised route between South Shields and Boldon following the route of Service 5 which will be withdrawn, from Boldon the 50 will follow its current route to Washington Galleries where it will be again follow a revised route via Harraton, Rickleton and Picktree replacing existing service 8.
• Service 50 will operate Monday to Sunday Every 30 Minutes and only as far as Chester-Le-Street as it does currently on a Sunday.
X50 – Durham – Framwellgate Moor – Arnison Centre – Waldridge Park - Chester-Le-Street – Washington Galleries – Boldon – South Shields
• New Service X50 will be introduced providing fast links from South Shields to Durham via Washington Galleries, The Service will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
• Service X50 will also cover the existing section of Service 50 between Chester-Le-Street and Durham.
55 - Sunderland - Royal Hospital - Durham Road - Silksworth - East Herrington - Houghton-le-Spring - Hetton-le-Hole - Low Moorsley – Low Pittington – High Pittington – Easington Village – Peterlee
• Service 55 will be merged with Service 35 providing one local service between Sunderland and Peterlee.
• Service 55 will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Sunday.
• Current Service 35 Withdrawn
X56 – Sunderland – Stadium Of Light – Southwick – Hylton Castle – Heworth - Gateshead – Newcastle
• Service X56 will be introduced to provide fast links from Sunderland to Newcastle.
• The service will operate Every 30 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Hourly on a Sunday.
57 - Newcastle – Gateshead – Q.E. Hospital – Beacon Lough Estate – Whitehills Estate – Leam Lane Estate - Heworth – Fellgate – Hedworth – South Tyneside Hospital Chichester – South Shields
• Service 57 will be extended from Heworth to South Shields merging with current service 26 reinstating old links.
• Service 57 will no longer serve Wardley and will run non-stop from Heworth to Fellgate with the Heworth to Wardley section replaced by the revised Service 1.
• The 57 will operate Every 20 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on Sundays.
• Service 26 Withdrawn.
60 – Parkside – Dawdon – Seaham – New Seaham - Ryhope – Grangetown - Sunderland - Fulwell - Cleadon - Harton Nook - South Shields
• Service 60 will be extended from Sunderland to South Shields replacing current Service 20 which is revised to operate Durham to Sunderland only.
• Service 60 will operate Every 10 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 20 Minutes on a Sunday.
65 - Sunderland – Grangetown – Ryhope - Seaham - New Seaham -Dalton Park - Murton - Hetton-le-Hole - Low Moorsley - Low Pittington - Belmont – Durham
• Services 61 and 65 will be merged to provide Cross-City Links between Sunderland and Durham via Dalton Park.
• Service 65 will operate Every 20 Minutes Monday to Saturday and Every 30 Minutes on a Sunday.
97 - Newcastle Market Street - Gateshead - Bensham - Lobley Hill Estate - Whickham - Fellside Park - Swalwell - Metrocentre - Metrocentre ASDA
• Service additionally serves Lobley Hill Estate replacing service X72 otherwise will operate as it currently does.
327 - DFDS Ferry Terminal - Newcastle Central Station – Newcastle Airport
• Extended to serve Newcastle Airport opening new connections between Ferry, Air, Local & Regional Rail/Coach Service along with local Public Transport Services.
• The 327 will continue operating it’s usual timetable to DFDS Ferry Terminal and will operate Every 20 Minutes from Central Station to the Airport Monday to Sunday.
• Partnerships will be set up with local Rail/Air/Bus Operators to provide discounted fares on 327 similarly to how current Partnerships work with DFDS and Plusbus.
X72 - Newcastle - Gateshead - Lobley Hill - Sunniside - Burnopfield - Dipton - Annfield Plain - Stanley
• Service will no longer serve Lobley Hill Estate and will be replaced by Service 97, Service X72 will pick up at Lobley Hill Bank Top/Coach Road Stops otherwise no changes to route or frequency.
(26 Apr 2022, 11:10 am)DaveFromUpNorth wrote Instead of X56 wouldn't it be better for the Stagecoach X24A to divert via Amazon for the Sland to Newcastle via Doxford International? Would make better sense than X56?
(26 Apr 2022, 11:18 am)MurdnunoC wrote Once the road between Nissan and Follingsby Park is upgraded, which I believe is in the pipeline, there is probably a case for a diversion of the 56 along the new road, down Leam Lane and through Springwell Estate, if Amazon provided some funding towards it.
(26 Apr 2022, 11:21 am)Storx wrote It's already been done, still narrow in parts apart from the IAMP end. I believe there are plans to have a bus gate at the IAMP / Nissan end though so it's buses / cycles only which would eliminate the problem with it being narrow as there's no-where to go in a car.
(26 Apr 2022, 1:08 pm)MurdnunoC wrote The road has always been there, but it was always just a back road with very little maintenance. Ten last time I drove along it, which was about a year or so ago, there wasn't much change. Looking at Google Maps, it still looks the same. Probably still not suitable for loads of heavy traffic but I could be wrong.
On another note, I once saw a couple who had been approached by a police car in a layby/passing place/entrance to a field, on Follingsby Lane. THey looked a bit shell-shocked and scantily-clad, I could only presume they had been caught in a compromising position, possibly an extramarital one.
(26 Apr 2022, 1:08 pm)MurdnunoC wrote The road has always been there, but it was always just a back road with very little maintenance. Ten last time I drove along it, which was about a year or so ago, there wasn't much change. Looking at Google Maps, it still looks the same. Probably still not suitable for loads of heavy traffic but I could be wrong.How long ago was this? Just asking for a friend.
On another note, I once saw a couple who had been approached by a police car in a layby/passing place/entrance to a field, on Follingsby Lane. THey looked a bit shell-shocked and scantily-clad, I could only presume they had been caught in a compromising position, possibly an extramarital one.
(26 Apr 2022, 1:11 pm)Storx wrote Must admit I haven't been around for a bit but didn't they redo it with new tarmac and new signage, it was quite decent along there last time I went along there ratrunning Testo's until the little bridge where it's just a mess but I think it's getting bypassed if they ever build the rest of IAMP (doubt it now with the pandemic etc).It's a couple of years since I was last through that way, but I took Follingsby Lane as an unofficial diversion when the A184 and A19 was shut one night for Testos work.
https://goo.gl/maps/MtJu2dpdHoFkmFeR7 - Looks still pretty nick to me last year if they cut the grass anyway.
Ha made me laugh, it's quite a well known dogging spot along there like. One of my mates told me about it awhile back. God knows where he found that from mind...
(26 Apr 2022, 1:58 pm)Andreos1 wrote How long ago was this? Just asking for a friend.
(26 Apr 2022, 2:57 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Possibly around May 2003. I would have been driving an old clapped-out blue Lynx van at the time. It was mid-afternoon, I know that much for sure. The bloke didn't seem that arsed, IIRC, but I think the woman was mortified.Ah. Its not me. I mean, it won't be my friend.
(26 Apr 2022, 7:18 pm)Andreos1 wrote Ah. Its not me. I mean, it won't be my friend.
On another note, weren't Lynx Express black, rather than blue?
(26 Apr 2022, 7:32 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Most were, but I'm pretty sure mine was blue. I wasn't working for Lynx directly, but through a franchisee-owner, which might explain why the van was blue. I was only there for about a month or two at the most, and it was 19 years ago, so it's possible I might have the colour wrong. The van definitely had Lynx decals.
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(12 May 2022, 12:57 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote I have been looking at Washington & Sunderland timetables circa 2004/5/6/7 recently, this suggestion came about as a result.
(12 May 2022, 8:37 pm)Ambassador wrote Anyone considered what the impact of the Eighton Lodge White Elephant….I mean park and ride will have on services?
Can’t see GNE amending their crown jewel of the 21 and when you’re that close to Newcastle….why would you park the car?
(12 May 2022, 11:19 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Any further P&Rs are a waste of money. Get Great Park working, then try another one in partnership with the MetroCentre (either utilising centre parking or the unused back of staff car park).
Once those ones are successful, then we can consider pouring more tarmac onto fields.
(12 May 2022, 11:19 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Any further P&Rs are a waste of money. Get Great Park working, then try another one in partnership with the MetroCentre (either utilising centre parking or the unused back of staff car park).On a plus Eighton Lodge is now built (its currently the Eighton Lodge compound for Costain's A1 improvement plan)
Once those ones are successful, then we can consider pouring more tarmac onto fields.
(12 May 2022, 8:37 pm)Ambassador wrote Anyone considered what the impact of the Eighton Lodge White Elephant….I mean park and ride will have on services?
Can’t see GNE amending their crown jewel of the 21 and when you’re that close to Newcastle….why would you park the car?
(13 May 2022, 6:46 am)Storx wrote Great Park P&R is pointless. There's one 1 mile down the road at the Regent Centre which would be twice as quick.
There's no need for it there.
P&R's don't work anyway unless it's somewhere like York or Durham where parking is difficult / it's hard to get into the place your going to which isn't Newcastle by any stretch of the imagination. Also no-one is going to park at one to then use a bus which takes longer than driving to the same place.
Its a waste of money by out of touch councillers.
(13 May 2022, 11:07 am)omnicity4659 wrote Regent Centre has a very poor car park. I have a small SUV and I struggle to get it around all the ramps, so that's enough to not use it again. I'm against the 'pay twice' way of park and rides too.The main reason we use the Durham P&R is because it's £2 for parking and a day ticket on the bus. Well, technically parking is free, but you have to have a bus ticket
(13 May 2022, 11:25 am)streetdeckfan wrote The main reason we use the Durham P&R is because it's £2 for parking and a day ticket on the bus. Well, technically parking is free, but you have to have a bus ticket
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(13 May 2022, 11:07 am)omnicity4659 wrote Regent Centre has a very poor car park. I have a small SUV and I struggle to get it around all the ramps, so that's enough to not use it again. I'm against the 'pay twice' way of park and rides too.
(14 May 2022, 4:05 pm)Unber43 wrote 39/39A - Doxford Park - Ryhope - Grangetown - Park Lane Stand E - Hylton Road - Hospital - Pennywell
Pennywell - Hospital - Hylton Road - Stand H - Grangetown - Ryhope - Doxford Park
2/3 - Sunderland (stand J) - Washington (same route) One would do the 82 route from Washington one would do 85. every 12 mins, 3x 2's, 2 3's
42 - Silksworth - Grangetown - Sunderland Stand F
33 Silksworth - Barns - Sunderland Winter Gardens - Sunderland Stand A - Barns - Silkworth
20 - Durham - Sunderland
19 - Hebburn - Sunderland Via South Shields (every 15 mins between Sunderland & South Shields)
7/9 9 - Sunderland (stand R) - Bolden - jarrow (every 30 mins)
7 - Sunderland - Hylton Castle - Follingsby - Heworth
(14 May 2022, 4:26 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see the 39 going via Hylton road as this always been stagecoach territory.Well Stagecoach South Shield aren't exactly doing wonders with their passenger numbers.
I’m surprised that the Sunderland to pennywell section hasn’t been withdrawn yet, the route is covered by other gne services and stagecoach services, passengers on nookside can get other buses from the broadway
I’m surprised that service 5/9/26 hasn’t been moved to stagecoach unless there are contracted services
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(14 May 2022, 4:29 pm)Unber43 wrote Well Stagecoach South Shield aren't exactly doing wonders with their passenger numbers.
Honestly I think GNE could take over SC Sunderland network if they had the money.
(14 May 2022, 4:43 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see stagecoach giving in Sunderland operationsif GNE duplicate all of SC routes with cheaper and advertised fares or the same fares im pretty sure they would pick GNE over SC. I know my friends who have to use SC and there family if GNE were to run routes in that area they would 100% switch.
Gne already asked the availability of stagecoach operations in South Shields and Hartlepool, Hartlepool was turned down flat from the start, and South Shields was 80/20 in stagecoach favour but nothing came out of it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if shields was closed down with all operations running from Sunderland as there’s enough room
