with the 62 being cancelled repaints needed could we see the X6 going back into Xlines Branding

(27 Jun 2022, 7:16 pm)Unber43 wrote with the 62 being cancelled repaints needed could we see the X6 going back into Xlines Branding

I'd imagine these would go Graphite for the 39/39/39B with the PVR increase with extension through to Houghton-Le-Spring and Washington Galleries.

(27 Jun 2022, 7:16 pm)Unber43 wrote with the 62 being cancelled repaints needed could we see the X6 going back into Xlines Branding

No. The local Peterlee services will interwork with the X6.

(27 Jun 2022, 7:27 pm)Dan wrote No. The local Peterlee services will interwork with the X6.

That could be a good way of changeovers.

Looking at the service change list again, I believe this is where the 50 extension will be heading as it said Sea Road which is where the abandoned bus stop is, Pier Head obviously the SeaFront and then Coast Road to Marsden, that is the only thinkable way the 50 will turn around, gonna have to wait and see. I dont know about the way back but is looking most likely that way, It could loop back round to the Town Hall and back into the Interchange.

Thats there is anyone wants to look

(27 Jun 2022, 10:19 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote
Looking at the service change list again, I believe this is where the 50 extension will be heading as it said Sea Road which is where the abandoned bus stop is, Pier Head obviously the SeaFront and then Coast Road to Marsden, that is the only thinkable way the 50 will turn around, gonna have to wait and see. I dont know about the way back but is looking most likely that way, It could loop back round to the Town Hall and back into the Interchange.

Thats there is anyone wants to look

ngl I think someone might have got Pier Head and Pier Parade mixed up and the service will be running along Ocean Road. Can't see it doing a pointless loop around the Riverside which is an awful road.

(27 Jun 2022, 10:29 pm)Storx wrote ngl I think someone might have got Pier Head and Pier Parade mixed up and the service will be running along Ocean Road. Can't see it doing a pointless loop around the Riverside which is an awful road.

Nothing was mentioned about Ocean Road. Sea Road was mentioned which is the road from River Drive. Just gonna have to see the Timetable when it releases, i only think that cause there is the stop outside the North Beach so just opposite North Marine Park and i'd imagine it would get used. Plus it would be going the same way as Stagecoach's E1 so i doubt GNE would want to steal their customers.

(27 Jun 2022, 10:42 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Nothing was mentioned about Ocean Road. Sea Road was mentioned which is the road from River Drive. Just gonna have to see the Timetable when it releases, i only think that cause there is the stop outside the North Beach so just opposite North Marine Park and i'd imagine it would get used. Plus it would be going the same way as Stagecoach's E1 so i doubt GNE would want to steal their customers.

Sea Road runs all the way from the roundabout at the New Crown past Gypsies Green and along the main seafront too, as well as the short stretch from Pier Head to River Drive.

(27 Jun 2022, 10:42 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Nothing was mentioned about Ocean Road. Sea Road was mentioned which is the road from River Drive. Just gonna have to see the Timetable when it releases, i only think that cause there is the stop outside the North Beach so just opposite North Marine Park and i'd imagine it would get used. Plus it would be going the same way as Stagecoach's E1 so i doubt GNE would want to steal their customers.

Sea Road also runs from the end of Ocean Road to the end aswell though. 

I'd imagine it'll go the E1 route to the Coast then follow it along to where you ended it.  BSIP still isn't happening on the ground imo.

(27 Jun 2022, 10:29 pm)Storx wrote ngl I think someone might have got Pier Head and Pier Parade mixed up and the service will be running along Ocean Road. Can't see it doing a pointless loop around the Riverside which is an awful road.

The E1 says via Pier Head on it's destination yet goes along Ocean Road.

(27 Jun 2022, 10:49 pm)Storx wrote Sea Road also runs from the end of Ocean Road to the end aswell though. 

I'd imagine it'll go the E1 route to the Coast then follow it along to where you ended it.  BSIP still isn't happening on the ground imo.

It’ll probs be:
Turns Right out of the Interchange, Follow original E6 after. Doubt it would go around Miles End Road

(27 Jun 2022, 11:59 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote It’ll probs be:
Turns Right out of the Interchange, Follow original E6 after. Doubt it would go around Miles End Road

I was looking earlier on Google maps and if you click on the individual bus stops they already have the 50 listed. Based on this the bus will turn left out of the interchange then right at the roundabout by Asda. It will then follow river drive right the way around the coast until sea road (not stopping at pier head on the way out) before going left at the roundabout outside ocean beach staying on sea road. Another left at the roundabout by gypsies green and down coast road to the next round about where the service will turn. On the way back it operates the reverse as far as the roundabout at ocean beach where it then follows the same route as the E1 passing pier head and going down ocean road, Anderson street, Winchester street, Fowler street and back to the interchange.

I’m really hoping some of the information Google has right now isn’t fully worked out, as the 61 route seems to be one of the most bizarre yet. According to the way Google has the information Peterlee bound journeys will do a full loop of the current 61 route via Woods Terrace, Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue back to Woods Terrace. Then via Church Lane & Station Road out of Murton to Easington Lane etc. And journeys from Peterlee go straight to the Terrace via Station Road & Church Lane then Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue to Woods Terrace.

Not only will you have 61 buses serving the same bus stops but some going to Peterlee some going to Sunderland, who in Easington Lane or South Hetton wants to spend 20+ minutes on a tour of Murton? DCC would have been better off funding the 62 route as it is now.

So with the 41 going back to Howdon however going from Hadrian Park. Are the 41/41A going to now work in a clockwise/anticlockwise

(28 Jun 2022, 8:33 am)Drifter60 wrote I’m really hoping some of the information Google has right now isn’t fully worked out, as the 61 route seems to be one of the most bizarre yet. According to the way Google has the information Peterlee bound journeys will do a full loop of the current 61 route via Woods Terrace, Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue back to Woods Terrace. Then via Church Lane & Station Road out of Murton to Easington Lane etc. And journeys from Peterlee go straight to the Terrace via Station Road & Church Lane then Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue to Woods Terrace.

Not only will you have 61 buses serving the same bus stops but some going to Peterlee some going to Sunderland, who in Easington Lane or South Hetton wants to spend 20+ minutes on a tour of Murton? DCC would have been better off funding the 62 route as it is now.

That is correct, it will serve the same bus stops a short time after already serving them once it has been around murton, think the problem is that it is only once an hour to peterlee so still has to serve the normal 61 route while serving murton, maybe they could have numbered it the......................62 and went through murton the same way as the 62 does now, murton estate is a funny lay out and there is probably no other way to make it work

(28 Jun 2022, 8:48 am)N1cholas wrote That is correct, it will serve the same bus stops a short time after already serving them once it has been around murton, think the problem is that it is only once an hour to peterlee so still has to serve the normal 61 route while serving murton, maybe they could have numbered it the......................62 and went through murton the same way as the 62 does now, murton estate is a funny lay out and there is probably no other way to make it work

A funny layout or one the GNE commercial team can’t work out? I sympathise somewhat if you’re not from an area trying to work out the best bus route may not be easy, but it is the job of the team to do so. 

The route around Murton currently works as they drop off/pick up passengers on the loop - now some of those loops are going to be little used as they’re only doing one or the other. How many folk are going to scan a pass on the 61 going the ‘right way’ expecting to go to the Top of Seaham, Ryhope or Sunderland but are actually going to end up in Easington Lane or South Hetton? 

The suggestion on here that operating the reverse starting at Truro Avenue to Station Estate would be the best option. The only place missed would be Knaresbrough Road, which isn’t great. But the best solution GNE have is to ask passengers travelling through Murton, (perhaps South Hetton residents wanting to get to Sunderland) is to spend 20 minutes doing a loop of Murton only to end up back where they started 20 minutes ago? Yeah sounds great, really attractive bus route that - better than ever, I’ll buy a ticket.

(28 Jun 2022, 8:42 am)Aaron21 wrote So with the 41 going back to Howdon however going from Hadrian Park. Are the 41/41A going to now work in a clockwise/anticlockwise

No as it’s not going to be a circular.

(14 Jun 2022, 8:33 pm)Storx wrote Tbh I think it's more everyone is more interested in GNE on here because of where people live. Stagecoach and Arriva are rarely discussed really. 

Theres not that many people North of the Tyne or South of Durham on here.

It doesn't help that GNE hang a carrot over a fair chunk of enthusiasts heads and they take the bait and they've suddenly realised their favourite company isn't as good as they thought.

Your wrong there I am actually from Hartlepool. The problem I see with Go North East is the constant chopping and changing of services. They quite happy to abandon places they served for decades as well by running them down. At one point Hartlepool had several Go North East services now they not a single service even though they are several gaps in the market for one.

(28 Jun 2022, 2:08 am)User2613 wrote I was looking earlier on Google maps and if you click on the individual bus stops they already have the 50 listed. Based on this the bus will turn left out of the interchange then right at the roundabout by Asda. It will then follow river drive right the way around the coast until sea road (not stopping at pier head on the way out) before going left at the roundabout outside ocean beach staying on sea road. Another left at the roundabout by gypsies green and down coast road to the next round about where the service will turn. On the way back it operates the reverse as far as the roundabout at ocean beach where it then follows the same route as the E1 passing pier head and going down ocean road, Anderson street, Winchester street, Fowler street and back to the interchange.

So really i was correct before with my diagram. Intresting way for it to go to be honest

Will there be any major late revisions or are the services on bustimes and the GNE updates now set in stone.

41 is going back to route it was before it was taken off.

(28 Jun 2022, 8:33 am)Drifter60 wrote I’m really hoping some of the information Google has right now isn’t fully worked out, as the 61 route seems to be one of the most bizarre yet. According to the way Google has the information Peterlee bound journeys will do a full loop of the current 61 route via Woods Terrace, Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue back to Woods Terrace. Then via Church Lane & Station Road out of Murton to Easington Lane etc. And journeys from Peterlee go straight to the Terrace via Station Road & Church Lane then Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue to Woods Terrace.

Not only will you have 61 buses serving the same bus stops but some going to Peterlee some going to Sunderland, who in Easington Lane or South Hetton wants to spend 20+ minutes on a tour of Murton? DCC would have been better off funding the 62 route as it is now.

I don't see why it couldn't have been the 61 & 61A kept at every 20 mins, it does the 61 route till the mill in, then goes to Byron Place, around Dawdon, then up either the Avenue or the Graham Way then to Murton. 

And have the 61A on a weekend be called the 61B

Not a GNE service anymore but i would have liked to see the 82A introduced.

(28 Jun 2022, 8:33 am)Drifter60 wrote I’m really hoping some of the information Google has right now isn’t fully worked out, as the 61 route seems to be one of the most bizarre yet. According to the way Google has the information Peterlee bound journeys will do a full loop of the current 61 route via Woods Terrace, Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue back to Woods Terrace. Then via Church Lane & Station Road out of Murton to Easington Lane etc. And journeys from Peterlee go straight to the Terrace via Station Road & Church Lane then Knaresbrough Road, Station Estate, Webb Avenue, Truro Avenue to Woods Terrace.

.... what?!
I live in Murton and don't understand any of the logic in that.

(28 Jun 2022, 9:05 am)Drifter60 wrote How many folk are going to scan a pass on the 61 going the ‘right way’ expecting to go to the Top of Seaham, Ryhope or Sunderland but are actually going to end up in Easington Lane or South Hetton?

Probably less than you think given the bus will have "Peterlee" on the front.

Lemme get this straight, this is the route it's doing?

(28 Jun 2022, 11:35 am)Rapidsnap wrote 41 is going back to route it was before it was taken off.

I don’t think it’s the same - unless I’m mistaken, it will extend from Hadrian Park down to Coniston Road, Tynemouth Road, Churchill Street with the final destination being Rosehill and then back to Hadrian Park via the same route.

(28 Jun 2022, 11:59 am)F114TML wrote .... what?!
I live in Murton and don't understand any of the logic in that.
Probably less than you think given the bus will have "Peterlee" on the front.

Yes the blind will say Peterlee but some - older folk or perhaps college kids even - may not pay too much attention to that such detail. And I’ve lost count the amount of times buses get stopped at Dalton Park asking which way they’re going. I also seen a 61 change the blind early so was saying “Sunderland” when they’re actually heading into Murton first, only just a few weeks back. 

The main point here though, away from the potential confusion depending on your point of view, is that the route just makes no logic.

(28 Jun 2022, 11:43 am)Unber43 wrote I don't see why it couldn't have been the 61 & 61A kept at every 20 mins, it does the 61 route till the mill in, then goes to Byron Place, around Dawdon, then up either the Avenue or the Graham Way then to Murton. 

And have the 61A on a weekend be called the 61B

The 61 should have been left as is, on whatever frequency - 20 or 30 minutes. Then the 62 (which I’ve coincidentally just seen around 11am heading out of Murton towards Sunderland with a pretty decent passenger load) should have been kept as is. 

South Hetton are going from a 42 minute to Sunderland on the 55 or the 62 route which takes 50 minutes giving three buses an hour to Sunderland vs now a 60 minute journey on the 61 giving just one bus an hour, including a soul destroying 15 minute detour to every street in Murton.

(27 Jun 2022, 6:22 pm)Dan wrote Yes, it will.

Not Xlines any longer then??

(28 Jun 2022, 11:59 am)F114TML wrote .... what?!
I live in Murton and don't understand any of the logic in that.

Probably less than you think given the bus will have "Peterlee" on the front.

Lemme get this straight, this is the route it's doing?

You missed a bit

I like it how it says to get to the Metrocentre from Durham & Chester it says catch the high frequency 21. Yea dropping it from 10 minutes to 15 minutes

(28 Jun 2022, 2:36 pm)Aaron21 wrote I like it how it says to get to the Metrocentre from Durham & Chester it says catch the high frequency 21. Yea dropping it from 10 minutes to 15 minutes

Also don't forget its like an extra 30 mins from Durham on the quickest way. 

And probs about the same from CLS aswell