Disruptions and driver shortages
Disruptions and driver shortages
(29 Sep 2022, 9:58 pm)Storx That's not the point though, there's other areas with services all over the place and there's duplicate services running.
Both Stockton and Riverside are having cancellations.
I'm sure the residents in Blaydon appreciate the hourly bus service at rush hour tomorrow on the 12 while there's 6 buses an hour running between Durham and Bishop Auckland (if Arriva haven't cancelled half their services) especially when that service used to be 4 buses an hour not too long ago.
It's all good operating buses in other operating areas but they should look after their own customers first. The people in Blaydon / Winlaton have no alternative, those going to Bishop Auckland have 4 buses an hour with a change.
(29 Sep 2022, 9:58 pm)Storx That's not the point though, there's other areas with services all over the place and there's duplicate services running.
Both Stockton and Riverside are having cancellations.
I'm sure the residents in Blaydon appreciate the hourly bus service at rush hour tomorrow on the 12 while there's 6 buses an hour running between Durham and Bishop Auckland (if Arriva haven't cancelled half their services) especially when that service used to be 4 buses an hour not too long ago.
It's all good operating buses in other operating areas but they should look after their own customers first. The people in Blaydon / Winlaton have no alternative, those going to Bishop Auckland have 4 buses an hour with a change.
(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.
While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.
It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.
(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.
While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.
It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.
(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.
While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.
It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.
(30 Sep 2022, 3:21 am)streetdeckfan With that logic, you might as well just scrap the X21 all together, since what's left of it would just duplicate the 21.Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.
While you're at it, might as well scrap the 49A between Metrocentre and Gateshead since it just duplicates the 49. It's unfair for people in Dunston to have 4 buses an hour! Oh, then there's the 10s, everyone can just change at Crawcrook since they all duplicate each other to Newcastle.
It would make more sense for passengers for Arriva to pull the Durham-West Auckland 6, and have GNE run a half hourly to West Auckland, and Arriva run a half hourly to Cockfield, with mutual ticket acceptance.
(30 Sep 2022, 7:49 am)Unber43 Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.
And the 35 between Barnes Park and East Herrington.
And you might aswell just only run the 47 between Blackhall MIll and Rowlands Gill.
Then you might aswell curb all the buses at Metro and just have the X45 extended to Newcastle.
(30 Sep 2022, 7:49 am)Unber43 Might aswell scrap the 20A and just have it run from Houghton to West Rainton.
And the 35 between Barnes Park and East Herrington.
And you might aswell just only run the 47 between Blackhall MIll and Rowlands Gill.
Then you might aswell curb all the buses at Metro and just have the X45 extended to Newcastle.
(30 Sep 2022, 7:54 am)Storx Must've missed the bit where Arriva and Stagecoach are the principal operator in all those areas.Clearly they aren't doing a good job, by all accounts the 21 extension to Brandon, X21 to West Auckland are doing great numbers.
(30 Sep 2022, 7:54 am)Storx Must've missed the bit where Arriva and Stagecoach are the principal operator in all those areas.Clearly they aren't doing a good job, by all accounts the 21 extension to Brandon, X21 to West Auckland are doing great numbers.
What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.
Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed.
There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again).
X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20.
Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other.
I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.
(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.Not to mention the delays on the 27 and other East Gateshead services.
Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed.
There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again).
X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20.
Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other.
I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.
(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.Not to mention the delays on the 27 and other East Gateshead services.
Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed.
There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again).
X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20.
Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other.
I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.
(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.
Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed.
There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again).
X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20.
Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other.
I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.
(01 Oct 2022, 8:21 pm)Unber43 What a disgrace Newcastle/Metrocentre have been today.
Trying to go from Metrocentre to newcastle was a joke, a 47 left Full, Standing with loads waiting, then proceeded 2 47's, one NIS, the other rammed, then 2 X45's one refused to let anyone on, the other was rammed.
There were 3 47's within 20 mins delays were awful, then trying to get on the 56, we were 40 mins late, rammed full of awful teenagers screaming (I can't wait for the metro to run again).
X1/56 has been ridiculously late, so has the X21, 60, 20.
Poor 65's had two breakdowns within an hour of each other.
I mean look at GNE Twitter is a disgrace something needs to be done by the horrendous reliability problem of the X30/31/45/X21/20/60/65 all need sorting out. Hell when 60's and X1's go NIS they don't even put them on Twitter.
(02 Oct 2022, 6:06 am)Storx What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on.
Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.
Ridiculous post.
(02 Oct 2022, 6:06 am)Storx What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on.
Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.
Ridiculous post.
(02 Oct 2022, 8:35 am)Unber43 Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on.
And tbf the 10s were running relatively ontime and they weren't that busy actually.
I mean I get the 56 delays, 9/24/5 will always suffer on match days, the 24 (old 20) always has.
(02 Oct 2022, 8:35 am)Unber43 Right, but you're missing the 3x 47's, and the 2x X45's and that happened during the planned march, there is no way they could have got to Consett and Back while it was on.
And tbf the 10s were running relatively ontime and they weren't that busy actually.
I mean I get the 56 delays, 9/24/5 will always suffer on match days, the 24 (old 20) always has.
(02 Oct 2022, 6:06 am)Storx What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).
Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.
Ridiculous post.
(02 Oct 2022, 6:06 am)Storx What do you honestly expect with the Sunderland services when there's 42k supporters who usually fill 3 Metro's heading towards Newcastle attempting to use buses or driving instead adding delays everywhere. Not to mention people between Hexham / Durham / Metro Centre and Newcastle aswell which are all extremely popular train routes (believe it or not, not everyone prefers buses - infact most people don't).
Also obviously you didn't check the GNE Twitter too well as there was an unplanned march by the train drivers which messed everything up at Central yesterday which didn't help.
Ridiculous post.
It's not like marches and protests are an unusual feature of Saturdays in Newcastle, particularly now the students have returned.
(02 Oct 2022, 12:02 pm)Adrian You mean this tweet, which is likely the most vague they've ever put out? https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...6833402881Its the same when they put out
"due to traffic congestion/protest march/football traffic" - the football traffic was in Sunderland and the 'protest march' was in Newcastle!
It wasn't a march by train drivers, as you suggest, and most services had gone to pot for the day long before the (planned) demo at Grey Street had started. The march following it was unplanned, but it was through Grainger Street in about 5 minutes. Perhaps an easy excuse for the social media team on the day though?
(02 Oct 2022, 12:02 pm)Adrian You mean this tweet, which is likely the most vague they've ever put out? https://twitter.com/gonortheast/status/1...6833402881Its the same when they put out
"due to traffic congestion/protest march/football traffic" - the football traffic was in Sunderland and the 'protest march' was in Newcastle!
It wasn't a march by train drivers, as you suggest, and most services had gone to pot for the day long before the (planned) demo at Grey Street had started. The march following it was unplanned, but it was through Grainger Street in about 5 minutes. Perhaps an easy excuse for the social media team on the day though?
(02 Oct 2022, 1:10 pm)Unber43 Its the same when they put out
we are experiencing high passenger levels and traffic congestion our services are experiencing delays upto 45 mins
I mean thats great, but where, will my service be affected? Will Services be cancelled? Are they turning at Gateshead (unannounced a lot do).
Saturday was just a catastrophe as you say before the football match in Sunderland and the Protest in newcastle. Both were planned.
Its again bad planning.
(02 Oct 2022, 1:10 pm)Unber43 Its the same when they put out
we are experiencing high passenger levels and traffic congestion our services are experiencing delays upto 45 mins
I mean thats great, but where, will my service be affected? Will Services be cancelled? Are they turning at Gateshead (unannounced a lot do).
Saturday was just a catastrophe as you say before the football match in Sunderland and the Protest in newcastle. Both were planned.
Its again bad planning.
(02 Oct 2022, 2:49 pm)MurdnunoC I wish you'd hurry up and take those driving lessoms you threatened to do a while back
What a shambles!!!
(02 Oct 2022, 2:49 pm)MurdnunoC I wish you'd hurry up and take those driving lessoms you threatened to do a while back
What a shambles!!!
(02 Oct 2022, 3:14 pm)streetdeckfan I've been trying to book in driving lessons for a while now and there's literally zero availability. A friend who is already taking lessons is even struggling to get slots with her instructor!
(02 Oct 2022, 3:20 pm)MurdnunoC Give me £20 an hour and I'll teach ya.
(02 Oct 2022, 3:20 pm)MurdnunoC Give me £20 an hour and I'll teach ya.