All have changes for the 20th November:


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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23, 23) Dene Estate Thorney Close

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/76
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 8 (8) Sunderland City Centre South Hylton

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13, 12) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

I don't know, but I feel the 8 and 23 will be frequency reductions. Hopefully they're sorting out the 3's timetable which is beyond ridiculous.

(14 Nov 2022, 10:17 am)Michael wrote All have changes for the 20th November:


PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23, 23) Dene Estate Thorney Close

PB0002404/17
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/76
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 8 (8) Sunderland City Centre South Hylton

PB0002404/60
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (3, 13, 12) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

Could it just be the route changes around Burdon Rd ( Vine Place/Holmside eastbound permanent closure)

(14 Nov 2022, 3:17 pm)Retro Nero wrote Could it just be the route changes around Burdon Rd ( Vine Place/Holmside eastbound permanent closure)

That is entirely possible and I hadn't thought of that. I guess time will tell, if the rest of our services go up too.

(14 Nov 2022, 4:13 pm)F114TML wrote That is entirely possible and I hadn't thought of that. I guess time will tell, if the rest of our services go up too.

Noticed that the x1,e1/e2/e6 variation change from the same date aswell


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(14 Nov 2022, 4:14 pm)cbma06 wrote Noticed that the x1,e1/e2/e6 variation change from the same date aswell


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Looks like route changes around Burdon Rd as I thought

And wishful thinking on my part regarding the 3

(14 Nov 2022, 3:17 pm)Retro Nero wrote Could it just be the route changes around Burdon Rd ( Vine Place/Holmside eastbound permanent closure)

Ah ye, forgot about that

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Christmas shopping in Newcastle?

Catch the extra Sunday X24 and X34 trips

14 Nov 2022 to 24 Dec 2022


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:25:16:780

A Facebook post today shows Stagecoach Walkergate are getting the 685 from the 10th of December

(16 Nov 2022, 1:30 pm)Aaron21 wrote A Facebook post today shows Stagecoach Walkergate are getting the 685 from the 10th of December

They need to get a few more E400s ideally. The fleet is stretched enough with schools taking service buses out.

So Arriva won't operate any 685s from 10th December onwards?

(16 Nov 2022, 3:21 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote So Arriva won't operate any 685s from 10th December onwards?

There's also a 22nd January date floating around although that might not come from a trusted source, sadly ......LOL.

(14 Nov 2022, 5:49 pm)Michael wrote Ah ye, forgot about that 

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Christmas shopping in Newcastle?

Catch the extra Sunday X24 and X34 trips

14 Nov 2022 to 24 Dec 2022


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:25:16:780

Do these pre-Christmas Sunday services from Stagecoach work?  I'm not sure how much general awareness there is from the public that these services exist, in that people just assume that they don't run on a Sunday as they don't normally at other parts of the year.

(16 Nov 2022, 8:01 pm)big mac wrote Do these pre-Christmas Sunday services from Stagecoach work?  I'm not sure how much general awareness there is from the public that these services exist, in that people just assume that they don't run on a Sunday as they don't normally at other parts of the year.

First time in 2 years?, they've ran leading up to Christmas, can't remember if they were well used or not, hopefully they are.

(16 Nov 2022, 8:05 pm)Michael wrote First time in 2 years?, they've ran leading up to Christmas, can't remember if they were well used or not, hopefully they are.

If they are successful and have been in the past, it makes me wonder why they've not at least tried out a permanent Sunday service all year round.

(16 Nov 2022, 8:25 pm)big mac wrote If they are successful and have been in the past, it makes me wonder why they've not at least tried out a permanent Sunday service all year round.

Sunday journeys used to be busy towards Newcastle until about 2pm then virtually empty thereafter and vice versa.  Virtually empty until 2pm from Newcastle then busy thereafter

Still think they better off with hourly services on Xmas Sundays and interwork at Newcastle.

Then possibly look at other Sundays.  Similar with Bank Holidays. Was successful prior to covid but never returned on bank holidays after covid.

Even if both the X24 and X34 was hourly on a Sunday, I think they'll still get decent passengers - could run between 9:30am and 6pm.

(16 Nov 2022, 8:37 pm)Michael wrote Even if both the X24 and X34 was hourly on a Sunday, I think they'll still get decent passengers - could run between 9:30am and 6pm.

The biggest problem is both very one way with nothing in the opposite direction. So you might have 15 people heading towards Newcastle; there's going to be no-one going in the opposite direction and the opposite later on. There's also very little in between on both aswell. So you won't have many short hop fares.

Monday to Friday you have the X24A taking people to Doxford Park and the X34 taking people to work in the Boldon Colliery area.

(16 Nov 2022, 1:30 pm)Aaron21 wrote A Facebook post today shows Stagecoach Walkergate are getting the 685 from the 10th of December

what as in arriva operating from the depot or handing over the service?

(16 Nov 2022, 8:52 pm)Storx wrote The biggest problem is both very one way with nothing in the opposite direction. So you might have 15 people heading towards Newcastle; there's going to be no-one going in the opposite direction and the opposite later on. There's also very little in between on both aswell. So you won't have many short hop fares.

Monday to Friday you have the X24A taking people to Doxford Park and the X34 taking people to work in the Boldon Colliery area.

Is that not the case with quite a number of services, though? It's quite common to be busy towards Newcastle in the morning and busy coming out of Newcastle in the afternoon.  I suppose the issue would be whether the busy journeys would balance out the cost of the quiet ones, but as I say other services do seem to survive with that kind of similar passenger pattern.

(16 Nov 2022, 9:14 pm)toward6931 wrote what as in arriva operating from the depot or handing over the service?

First I've heard about this too. Nowt on DVSA about it either.

Possibly someone getting their wires crossed with it being ran out of the Arriva cabins?

The 685 is already ran out of Walkergate by Arriva. Its possible as heard from a lot of people Arriva were called to a meeting either last week or this week to discuss the running of the 44/45/51/52/53/54/55

Shocker is they never turned up to the meeting. Nexus were there as well

they were called to a meeting to discuss the reliability of the 44/45 with residents of dinnington and wideopen

no idea what the 685 or 51/52/53/54/55 have to do with it?

(16 Nov 2022, 11:29 pm)omnicity4659 wrote First I've heard about this too. Nowt on DVSA about it either.

Possibly someone getting their wires crossed with it being ran out of the Arriva cabins?

https://northeastbuses.co.uk/forum/showt...p?tid=1032&pid=288303#pid288303   not too sure

Effective date: 12 Dec 2022

PB0002404/400
New BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 516 (516) South Shields Interchange South Tyneside District Hospital

(08 Dec 2022, 7:51 pm)Michael wrote Effective date: 12 Dec 2022

PB0002404/400
New BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 516 (516) South Shields Interchange South Tyneside District Hospital

Lost count of how many times that route has changed

(08 Dec 2022, 8:37 pm)V514DFT wrote Lost count of how many times that route has changed

It's not really changed that often 

Was GNE then GCT now SNE after a few years.

Also effective 12th Dec. Pretty quick that. Have GCT given up? Possibly concentrating more on Durham area services as very little South Shields.

(08 Dec 2022, 10:13 pm)ifm001 wrote It's not really changed that often 

Was GNE then GCT now SNE after a few years.

Also effective 12th Dec. Pretty quick that. Have GCT given up? Possibly concentrating more on Durham area services as very little South Shields.

Driver availability an issue for GCT, perhaps, following recent DCC tender awards, and terminated their contract for service 516 early?


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(08 Dec 2022, 10:13 pm)ifm001 wrote It's not really changed that often 

Was GNE then GCT now SNE after a few years.

Also effective 12th Dec. Pretty quick that. Have GCT given up? Possibly concentrating more on Durham area services as very little South Shields.

Yeah,but its also been the 16

(09 Dec 2022, 9:34 pm)V514DFT wrote Yeah,but its also been the 16

And the 500 the TB500 and loads other variations.