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Dan
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18138
24 Jan 2023, 8:14 pm
#21
(24 Jan 2023, 6:50 pm)nova347 Graphite 674 according to Bustimes is back in service on the 6 today, the first time since the 2nd of September


It is not, in reality.


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Dan
24 Jan 2023, 8:14 pm #21

(24 Jan 2023, 6:50 pm)nova347 Graphite 674 according to Bustimes is back in service on the 6 today, the first time since the 2nd of September


It is not, in reality.


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998
24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm
#22
(24 Jan 2023, 6:42 pm)Unber43 You're acting like half of them are false tracking. 

Its probs like 98% are true or smth. There is probably only a couple which are false tracking and were out today. 

And with Washington & Deptford both seem to be struggling for buses it would be more than possible, and that some Washington buses apparently go to Deptford on an evening.
Not acting like anything.  I simply made a comment that perhaps as others have suggested real rare workings are logged separate to those that come from Bustimes.

At the end of the day, there are false track reports and anyone can go one bustimes nowadays to check lists.
LVK 404L
24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm #22

(24 Jan 2023, 6:42 pm)Unber43 You're acting like half of them are false tracking. 

Its probs like 98% are true or smth. There is probably only a couple which are false tracking and were out today. 

And with Washington & Deptford both seem to be struggling for buses it would be more than possible, and that some Washington buses apparently go to Deptford on an evening.
Not acting like anything.  I simply made a comment that perhaps as others have suggested real rare workings are logged separate to those that come from Bustimes.

At the end of the day, there are false track reports and anyone can go one bustimes nowadays to check lists.

19181
24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm
#23
(24 Jan 2023, 8:14 pm)Dan It is not, in reality.


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What's happening with the Graphite solos?, Will they re-enter proper service in February after the Sunderland changes?

Hopefully the February changes include putting the 39's back to normal frequency, I take it the 8 will stay hourly permanently, since its not part of the changes this weekend?

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Michael
24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm #23

(24 Jan 2023, 8:14 pm)Dan It is not, in reality.


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What's happening with the Graphite solos?, Will they re-enter proper service in February after the Sunderland changes?

Hopefully the February changes include putting the 39's back to normal frequency, I take it the 8 will stay hourly permanently, since its not part of the changes this weekend?


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Dan
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24 Jan 2023, 8:54 pm
#24
(24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm)Michael What's happening with the Graphite solos?, Will they re-enter proper service in February after the Sunderland changes?

Hopefully the February changes include putting the 39's back to normal frequency, I take it the 8 will stay hourly permanently, since its not part of the changes this weekend?


I don’t think there are any changes proposed for Sunderland.


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Dan
24 Jan 2023, 8:54 pm #24

(24 Jan 2023, 8:19 pm)Michael What's happening with the Graphite solos?, Will they re-enter proper service in February after the Sunderland changes?

Hopefully the February changes include putting the 39's back to normal frequency, I take it the 8 will stay hourly permanently, since its not part of the changes this weekend?


I don’t think there are any changes proposed for Sunderland.


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19181
24 Jan 2023, 8:59 pm
#25
(24 Jan 2023, 8:54 pm)Dan I don’t think there are any changes proposed for Sunderland.


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Oh, I thought there was, as the 20A/65 were apparently going to interwork - thought that might of forced timing changes.

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Michael
24 Jan 2023, 8:59 pm #25

(24 Jan 2023, 8:54 pm)Dan I don’t think there are any changes proposed for Sunderland.


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Oh, I thought there was, as the 20A/65 were apparently going to interwork - thought that might of forced timing changes.


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Dan
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24 Jan 2023, 9:33 pm
#26
(24 Jan 2023, 8:59 pm)Michael Oh, I thought, there was, as the 20A/65 were apparently going to interwork - thought that might of forced timing changes.


I think that was just speculation rather than confirmation.

If times were changing in February, those changes would have been registered by now. No registrations have appeared as far as I’ve seen.


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Dan
24 Jan 2023, 9:33 pm #26

(24 Jan 2023, 8:59 pm)Michael Oh, I thought, there was, as the 20A/65 were apparently going to interwork - thought that might of forced timing changes.


I think that was just speculation rather than confirmation.

If times were changing in February, those changes would have been registered by now. No registrations have appeared as far as I’ve seen.


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26 Jan 2023, 11:08 am
#27
Graphite 676 tracking on the X1. Is that a false tracking?
OrangeArrow49
26 Jan 2023, 11:08 am #27

Graphite 676 tracking on the X1. Is that a false tracking?

3570
26 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm
#28
(26 Jan 2023, 11:08 am)OrangeArrow49 Graphite 676 tracking on the X1. Is that a false tracking?
I want to say Yes, but I doubt it 676/677 moved to Washington a couple days ago as spares and been on the 71 since, untill today on the X1.
Unber43
26 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm #28

(26 Jan 2023, 11:08 am)OrangeArrow49 Graphite 676 tracking on the X1. Is that a false tracking?
I want to say Yes, but I doubt it 676/677 moved to Washington a couple days ago as spares and been on the 71 since, untill today on the X1.

796
26 Jan 2023, 6:42 pm
#29
(26 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm)Unber43 I want to say Yes, but I doubt it 676/677 moved to Washington a couple days ago as spares and been on the 71 since, untill today on the X1.
It's true. Been sent the photo
Aaron21
26 Jan 2023, 6:42 pm #29

(26 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm)Unber43 I want to say Yes, but I doubt it 676/677 moved to Washington a couple days ago as spares and been on the 71 since, untill today on the X1.
It's true. Been sent the photo

2281
26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm
#30
Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little

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Tez
V514DFT
26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm #30

Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little


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Tez

416
26 Jan 2023, 9:49 pm
#31
(26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm)V514DFT Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little
Consett does that loads, uses the Enviro 400s/Red Kite Rangers/Diamonds on school services while you're on an Ex-GWN or a Venture.
nova347
26 Jan 2023, 9:49 pm #31

(26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm)V514DFT Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little
Consett does that loads, uses the Enviro 400s/Red Kite Rangers/Diamonds on school services while you're on an Ex-GWN or a Venture.

Dan
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18138
26 Jan 2023, 9:51 pm
#32
(26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm)V514DFT Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little


This week (intentionally ahead of the CAZ), new radio systems are being fitted to the Cobalt & Coast fleet. As such they have been predominantly used on schools to allow the work to be done during the day with no impact on the VOR.

As other posters have said, it is convenient for the depot engineering teams to be able to do this.

Clearly, from Sunday, they won’t have this flexibility anymore.


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Dan
26 Jan 2023, 9:51 pm #32

(26 Jan 2023, 9:38 pm)V514DFT Why do Omnideckers constantly end up on the 309/310/311, i just love wanting to get home and an uncomfortable old 19 year old bus turns up, granted the bus turned up, but then when you see a bus thats meant to be on those services, is on Scholars duties, it kinda p***es you of a little


This week (intentionally ahead of the CAZ), new radio systems are being fitted to the Cobalt & Coast fleet. As such they have been predominantly used on schools to allow the work to be done during the day with no impact on the VOR.

As other posters have said, it is convenient for the depot engineering teams to be able to do this.

Clearly, from Sunday, they won’t have this flexibility anymore.


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2281
27 Jan 2023, 1:13 pm
#33
(26 Jan 2023, 9:51 pm)Dan This week (intentionally ahead of the CAZ), new radio systems are being fitted to the Cobalt & Coast fleet. As such they have been predominantly used on schools to allow the work to be done during the day with no impact on the VOR.

As other posters have said, it is convenient for the depot engineering teams to be able to do this.

Clearly, from Sunday, they won’t have this flexibility anymore.


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Ahhhhhhhh right fair play

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
27 Jan 2023, 1:13 pm #33

(26 Jan 2023, 9:51 pm)Dan This week (intentionally ahead of the CAZ), new radio systems are being fitted to the Cobalt & Coast fleet. As such they have been predominantly used on schools to allow the work to be done during the day with no impact on the VOR.

As other posters have said, it is convenient for the depot engineering teams to be able to do this.

Clearly, from Sunday, they won’t have this flexibility anymore.


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Ahhhhhhhh right fair play


Kind Regards
Tez

167
29 Jan 2023, 10:58 am
#34
Is the X66 now allocated green arrow buses on a Sunday?
Jack Gill
29 Jan 2023, 10:58 am #34

Is the X66 now allocated green arrow buses on a Sunday?

3237
29 Jan 2023, 11:31 am
#35
(29 Jan 2023, 10:58 am)Jack Gill Is the X66 now allocated green arrow buses on a Sunday?

They should be allocated every day, B7 singles off to pastures new soon
citaro5284
29 Jan 2023, 11:31 am #35

(29 Jan 2023, 10:58 am)Jack Gill Is the X66 now allocated green arrow buses on a Sunday?

They should be allocated every day, B7 singles off to pastures new soon

3570
29 Jan 2023, 12:01 pm
#36
(29 Jan 2023, 11:31 am)citaro5284 They should be allocated every day, B7 singles off to pastures new soon
They're less capacity tho. 

I wonder if they'll just get rid of 5501-5504 & 5509-10 or will just withdraw them as they seem not to be that reliable. 

I think they could be a nice fit on 35 if there was 8, but the 61 would be good too tbh and it fits the PVR.
Unber43
29 Jan 2023, 12:01 pm #36

(29 Jan 2023, 11:31 am)citaro5284 They should be allocated every day, B7 singles off to pastures new soon
They're less capacity tho. 

I wonder if they'll just get rid of 5501-5504 & 5509-10 or will just withdraw them as they seem not to be that reliable. 

I think they could be a nice fit on 35 if there was 8, but the 61 would be good too tbh and it fits the PVR.

29 Jan 2023, 5:23 pm
#37
(29 Jan 2023, 12:01 pm)Unber43 They're less capacity tho. 

I wonder if they'll just get rid of 5501-5504 & 5509-10 or will just withdraw them as they seem not to be that reliable. 

I think they could be a nice fit on 35 if there was 8, but the 61 would be good too tbh and it fits the PVR.
I'd imagine it'll be 5509/10 as 5501-4 are MetroCentre branded
Retro Nero
29 Jan 2023, 5:23 pm #37

(29 Jan 2023, 12:01 pm)Unber43 They're less capacity tho. 

I wonder if they'll just get rid of 5501-5504 & 5509-10 or will just withdraw them as they seem not to be that reliable. 

I think they could be a nice fit on 35 if there was 8, but the 61 would be good too tbh and it fits the PVR.
I'd imagine it'll be 5509/10 as 5501-4 are MetroCentre branded

19181
29 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm
#38
(29 Jan 2023, 5:23 pm)Retro Nero I'd imagine it'll be 5509/10 as 5501-4 are MetroCentre branded

All of them are going to "Go North West".

The 3 spare Green Arrow E200's are going on the X66 for the time-being.


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Michael
29 Jan 2023, 5:51 pm #38

(29 Jan 2023, 5:23 pm)Retro Nero I'd imagine it'll be 5509/10 as 5501-4 are MetroCentre branded

All of them are going to "Go North West".

The 3 spare Green Arrow E200's are going on the X66 for the time-being.


Info from Dan on a post in North East Bus Enthusiasts Facebook page:

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1871
29 Jan 2023, 5:56 pm
#39
Withdrawing buses based on a temporary change doesn’t make that change seem all that temporary…

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
29 Jan 2023, 5:56 pm #39

Withdrawing buses based on a temporary change doesn’t make that change seem all that temporary…


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Dan
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18138
29 Jan 2023, 6:07 pm
#40
(29 Jan 2023, 5:56 pm)Ambassador Withdrawing buses based on a temporary change doesn’t make that change seem all that temporary…


Keeping an abundance of spare vehicles in the fleet and incurring depreciation charges and no revenue to pay for it doesn’t make all that much sense.

Given the vast influx of Volvo B9 being acquired from Go-Ahead London, and the Versa previously used on Quaycity yet to find a permanent home, there is plenty of scope within the fleet to allow the Green Arrows to return to the 96/97, should the 97 return to its previous frequency.

Of course, if the ADLs were being repainted, that would suggest the plan was permanent… But looks to me like they’re still branded as Green Arrow.


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Dan
29 Jan 2023, 6:07 pm #40

(29 Jan 2023, 5:56 pm)Ambassador Withdrawing buses based on a temporary change doesn’t make that change seem all that temporary…


Keeping an abundance of spare vehicles in the fleet and incurring depreciation charges and no revenue to pay for it doesn’t make all that much sense.

Given the vast influx of Volvo B9 being acquired from Go-Ahead London, and the Versa previously used on Quaycity yet to find a permanent home, there is plenty of scope within the fleet to allow the Green Arrows to return to the 96/97, should the 97 return to its previous frequency.

Of course, if the ADLs were being repainted, that would suggest the plan was permanent… But looks to me like they’re still branded as Green Arrow.


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