Go North East March 2023 changes
Go North East March 2023 changes
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(16 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm)Tiger5105 A couple of corporate streetlites have appeared back at Consett, one being 5453 which, according to bustimes, has been used on the 1 recently. I wonder if the E200's are earmarked for a short stay at Consett and are transferring depots?No Consett are keeping the MMC's for the 6
(16 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm)Tiger5105 A couple of corporate streetlites have appeared back at Consett, one being 5453 which, according to bustimes, has been used on the 1 recently. I wonder if the E200's are earmarked for a short stay at Consett and are transferring depots?No Consett are keeping the MMC's for the 6
(16 Apr 2023, 5:16 pm)Unber43 the 71 should be extended to South Hetton on evenings.X1 runs through to Peterlee all evening
As there are no buses between Easington to peterlee from like 18:00/19:00 till the next day.
They should bring the 35A back to half hourly.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:47 pm)F114TML Yeah, because literally no one used it.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:47 pm)F114TML Yeah, because literally no one used it.
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine They did when the 35A ran it. Not many, but it was usedIt's almost as if a massive operator operating a service in their area where people can use the day/week tickets they've already bought helps...madness
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine Mad how that's kept and the 135/136 are being binned off. I know that would save more money but I can't imagine it being better used.I agree.
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine They did when the 35A ran it. Not many, but it was usedIt's almost as if a massive operator operating a service in their area where people can use the day/week tickets they've already bought helps...madness
(17 Apr 2023, 12:30 pm)deanmachine Mad how that's kept and the 135/136 are being binned off. I know that would save more money but I can't imagine it being better used.I agree.
(16 Apr 2023, 4:27 pm)N1cholas The biggest problem with the 135/136 is revenue, the high minority of passengers are concessions, very few paying customers so Nexus were paying for a service and also for the passengers to have a free taxi to the club as well, a bit like most Nexus secured services, the passengers don't really contribute with paying fares to keep the service running
(16 Apr 2023, 4:27 pm)N1cholas The biggest problem with the 135/136 is revenue, the high minority of passengers are concessions, very few paying customers so Nexus were paying for a service and also for the passengers to have a free taxi to the club as well, a bit like most Nexus secured services, the passengers don't really contribute with paying fares to keep the service running
(16 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm)purplesolo The 520 has been saved for some reason and will also be ran by GNE. Assuming the 79’s and 520’s will interwork.They will probably stand alone as the 79 will possibly be done with a streetlight and the 520 a solo, but they could use a sprinter
(17 Apr 2023, 1:23 pm)Washingtonian Also, I don't understand why Nexus states that a bus used for a secured service must be no older than a certain age. It doesnt make sense to me why new buses are being bought to run services that are never going to get huge loadings. As long as a bus is safe, clean, and relaible then what does it matter about its age?
(17 Apr 2023, 1:23 pm)Washingtonian Also, I don't understand why Nexus states that a bus used for a secured service must be no older than a certain age. It doesnt make sense to me why new buses are being bought to run services that are never going to get huge loadings. As long as a bus is safe, clean, and relaible then what does it matter about its age?
(16 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm)Tiger5105 A couple of corporate streetlites have appeared back at Consett, one being 5453 which, according to bustimes, has been used on the 1 recently. I wonder if the E200's are earmarked for a short stay at Consett and are transferring depots?
(16 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm)Tiger5105 A couple of corporate streetlites have appeared back at Consett, one being 5453 which, according to bustimes, has been used on the 1 recently. I wonder if the E200's are earmarked for a short stay at Consett and are transferring depots?
(16 Apr 2023, 2:49 pm)Storx Aye totally agreed to be honest, it's the same everywhere though. Every bus goes to Sunderland and Newcastle and that's about it want to travel around the city then tough luck, travel 20 minutes into Sunderland and then travel 30 minutes back and let's be honest who the hell wants to go to Sunderland.
Always reminds me of someone who lives in the West End of Newcastle who shops in Byker as it's the only place they can actually get from where they live (Benwell). At the time I was like wtf you going there for there's like 5 supermarkets around here but then you look at a route map, good luck getting to them.
Btw. on the 99 I really don't get the point of it, is it funded by ASDA or something? As it seems the only point of it.
(16 Apr 2023, 3:01 pm)F114TML The 99's existed in various iterations for years (there's a stop at Seaburn Morrisons, somewhere, with a timetable on it for the 99 that's about 10 years out of date!) It's only been going to the ASDA since GNE dumped the 38 last year (before that it used to go along Premier Way to the Prospect, then back along Durham Road to the Barnes).
(16 Apr 2023, 2:49 pm)Storx Aye totally agreed to be honest, it's the same everywhere though. Every bus goes to Sunderland and Newcastle and that's about it want to travel around the city then tough luck, travel 20 minutes into Sunderland and then travel 30 minutes back and let's be honest who the hell wants to go to Sunderland.
Always reminds me of someone who lives in the West End of Newcastle who shops in Byker as it's the only place they can actually get from where they live (Benwell). At the time I was like wtf you going there for there's like 5 supermarkets around here but then you look at a route map, good luck getting to them.
Btw. on the 99 I really don't get the point of it, is it funded by ASDA or something? As it seems the only point of it.
(16 Apr 2023, 3:01 pm)F114TML The 99's existed in various iterations for years (there's a stop at Seaburn Morrisons, somewhere, with a timetable on it for the 99 that's about 10 years out of date!) It's only been going to the ASDA since GNE dumped the 38 last year (before that it used to go along Premier Way to the Prospect, then back along Durham Road to the Barnes).
(17 Apr 2023, 7:29 pm)Jonathan93102 Hello all,
I’ve really enjoyed reading your posts about the Nexus changes. With regards to the 99 I had a relative who used to work at Redby. They had a number 9 service which ran from Seaburn Morrisons to Hylton Castle, it used to do quite well from what I was told. In Spring 2007 Redby made big changes and started a x2 circular routes from Seaburn Morrisons - the 9 & 99. The 9 would run from Seaburn to the City Centre via Roker and St Peter’s Campus, then up to the Royal Hospital and round through the Enterprise Park to Hylton Castle, Southwick, Fulwell and Seaburn. The 99 would do the opposite route. They brought in a Flat Fare for Adult Singles of £1 which proved very popular but I’m not sure if the routes were very successful. I heard Stagecoach retimed their buses to operate 10 mins in front of the 9 and 99, I’m not sure if this was true? They leased brand new buses ‘07’ plates for the new routes which were fantastic for the time.
In January 2008, Redby were bought out by GNE and GNE brought back the original 9 route but renumbering it the 99.
On a separate note regarding the current Nexus Service 558 run by Gateshead Central Taxis. The earlier journeys lately from Seaburn towards Heworth have been quite busy partly due to how many issues the Metro has been having between Sunderland and Pelaw.
Thanks.
(17 Apr 2023, 7:29 pm)Jonathan93102 Hello all,
I’ve really enjoyed reading your posts about the Nexus changes. With regards to the 99 I had a relative who used to work at Redby. They had a number 9 service which ran from Seaburn Morrisons to Hylton Castle, it used to do quite well from what I was told. In Spring 2007 Redby made big changes and started a x2 circular routes from Seaburn Morrisons - the 9 & 99. The 9 would run from Seaburn to the City Centre via Roker and St Peter’s Campus, then up to the Royal Hospital and round through the Enterprise Park to Hylton Castle, Southwick, Fulwell and Seaburn. The 99 would do the opposite route. They brought in a Flat Fare for Adult Singles of £1 which proved very popular but I’m not sure if the routes were very successful. I heard Stagecoach retimed their buses to operate 10 mins in front of the 9 and 99, I’m not sure if this was true? They leased brand new buses ‘07’ plates for the new routes which were fantastic for the time.
In January 2008, Redby were bought out by GNE and GNE brought back the original 9 route but renumbering it the 99.
On a separate note regarding the current Nexus Service 558 run by Gateshead Central Taxis. The earlier journeys lately from Seaburn towards Heworth have been quite busy partly due to how many issues the Metro has been having between Sunderland and Pelaw.
Thanks.
(17 Apr 2023, 8:57 pm)Storx Thank you for that, makes sense where the 99 came from then historically and makes an awful lot more sense than the thing that exists nowadays which just seems a pointless to me.
Would make sense with the 558 mind, since it's the only bus service around there which you could really use; quite a detour mind.
(17 Apr 2023, 8:57 pm)Storx Thank you for that, makes sense where the 99 came from then historically and makes an awful lot more sense than the thing that exists nowadays which just seems a pointless to me.
Would make sense with the 558 mind, since it's the only bus service around there which you could really use; quite a detour mind.
(18 Apr 2023, 7:34 am)Jonathan93102 I should add the 9 & 99 that Redby introduced ran Monday - Saturday from around 0700-1900. There was no service on a Sunday or Bank Holidays. They even put on an ex London Open Top Bus in London Transport Red over the Summer Holidays which is something we are seeing again now with Stagecoach.
I believe the earlier 9 service which ran between Seaburn and Hylton Castle was strictly Monday - Friday and would not start till 0900 on school days. The buses that were on it would come off Scholar Services straight onto the 9. They also had a so called lunchtime layover in Seaburn Morrisons Car Park of an hour around 1300 I believe. I think this lunchtime layover happened again when GNE took over the route in 2008 as the 99. Redby did used to serve the 9 route 7 days week in the early 2000’s but I’m not sure why it got dropped to Monday - Friday only. They did run services for Stagecoach in Sunderland up until the start of the new circular 9 & 99 routes in Spring 2007, the routes which ran to the Docks.
I’m not sure what things are like down at Seaburn now but I know the area has changed massively since 2007 with the new hotel and restaurants opening up as well as the Seaburn Stack. It would be interesting if GNE would return to the area - I’m not really clued up so could not comment. I do remember GNE used to have a Service 161 which ran from Low Moorsley or Hetton-le-Hole to Seaburn Camp turning circle. That was pre-2008 I believe.
Thanks.
(18 Apr 2023, 7:34 am)Jonathan93102 I should add the 9 & 99 that Redby introduced ran Monday - Saturday from around 0700-1900. There was no service on a Sunday or Bank Holidays. They even put on an ex London Open Top Bus in London Transport Red over the Summer Holidays which is something we are seeing again now with Stagecoach.
I believe the earlier 9 service which ran between Seaburn and Hylton Castle was strictly Monday - Friday and would not start till 0900 on school days. The buses that were on it would come off Scholar Services straight onto the 9. They also had a so called lunchtime layover in Seaburn Morrisons Car Park of an hour around 1300 I believe. I think this lunchtime layover happened again when GNE took over the route in 2008 as the 99. Redby did used to serve the 9 route 7 days week in the early 2000’s but I’m not sure why it got dropped to Monday - Friday only. They did run services for Stagecoach in Sunderland up until the start of the new circular 9 & 99 routes in Spring 2007, the routes which ran to the Docks.
I’m not sure what things are like down at Seaburn now but I know the area has changed massively since 2007 with the new hotel and restaurants opening up as well as the Seaburn Stack. It would be interesting if GNE would return to the area - I’m not really clued up so could not comment. I do remember GNE used to have a Service 161 which ran from Low Moorsley or Hetton-le-Hole to Seaburn Camp turning circle. That was pre-2008 I believe.
Thanks.
(18 Apr 2023, 7:38 am)Andreos1 There was also the 164 which ran a similar route to the 194 between Easington Lane/Penshaw Bank Top and then followed the 638 route from there to Sunderland (offering a half hourly service for the residents of Barnwell to/from Sunderland).The 164 on deregulation in October 1986 also got extended from Sunderland to South Shields operating limited stop. From memory think it only stopped at Wheatsheaf, The Grange Fulwell, Cleadon Pond, Harton Nook, Westoe and Shields Keppel St. Used it a few times and was a good fast alternative to the all stops 535/536
Just checked the timetable out in The Bygone Era and it didn't go in to Park Lane TO Seaburn. But did on the return. Used it many times, but can't remember the specifics about it's route in Sunderland City Centre.
Off memory, pretty sure it went a few years prior to the 2006 changes though.
(18 Apr 2023, 7:38 am)Andreos1 There was also the 164 which ran a similar route to the 194 between Easington Lane/Penshaw Bank Top and then followed the 638 route from there to Sunderland (offering a half hourly service for the residents of Barnwell to/from Sunderland).The 164 on deregulation in October 1986 also got extended from Sunderland to South Shields operating limited stop. From memory think it only stopped at Wheatsheaf, The Grange Fulwell, Cleadon Pond, Harton Nook, Westoe and Shields Keppel St. Used it a few times and was a good fast alternative to the all stops 535/536
Just checked the timetable out in The Bygone Era and it didn't go in to Park Lane TO Seaburn. But did on the return. Used it many times, but can't remember the specifics about it's route in Sunderland City Centre.
Off memory, pretty sure it went a few years prior to the 2006 changes though.
(18 Apr 2023, 7:38 am)Andreos1 There was also the 164 which ran a similar route to the 194 between Easington Lane/Penshaw Bank Top and then followed the 638 route from there to Sunderland (offering a half hourly service for the residents of Barnwell to/from Sunderland).
Just checked the timetable out in The Bygone Era and it didn't go in to Park Lane TO Seaburn. But did on the return. Used it many times, but can't remember the specifics about it's route in Sunderland City Centre.
Off memory, pretty sure it went a few years prior to the 2006 changes though.
(18 Apr 2023, 8:30 am)ifm001 The 164 on deregulation in October 1986 also got extended from Sunderland to South Shields operating limited stop. From memory think it only stopped at Wheatsheaf, The Grange Fulwell, Cleadon Pond, Harton Nook, Westoe and Shields Keppel St. Used it a few times and was a good fast alternative to the all stops 535/536
(18 Apr 2023, 7:38 am)Andreos1 There was also the 164 which ran a similar route to the 194 between Easington Lane/Penshaw Bank Top and then followed the 638 route from there to Sunderland (offering a half hourly service for the residents of Barnwell to/from Sunderland).
Just checked the timetable out in The Bygone Era and it didn't go in to Park Lane TO Seaburn. But did on the return. Used it many times, but can't remember the specifics about it's route in Sunderland City Centre.
Off memory, pretty sure it went a few years prior to the 2006 changes though.
(18 Apr 2023, 8:30 am)ifm001 The 164 on deregulation in October 1986 also got extended from Sunderland to South Shields operating limited stop. From memory think it only stopped at Wheatsheaf, The Grange Fulwell, Cleadon Pond, Harton Nook, Westoe and Shields Keppel St. Used it a few times and was a good fast alternative to the all stops 535/536
