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Aaron21



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03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am #1,361
(03 Dec 2023, 11:34 am)big mac No journey cancellation list any more?

Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)
Aaron21
03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am #1,361

(03 Dec 2023, 11:34 am)big mac No journey cancellation list any more?

Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)

citaro5284



3,226
03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm #1,362
(03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am)Aaron21 Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)

Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?
citaro5284
03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm #1,362

(03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am)Aaron21 Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)

Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?

MurdnunoC



3,960
03 Dec 2023, 12:31 pm #1,363
(03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm)citaro5284 Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?
Or Heyman?

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MurdnunoC
03 Dec 2023, 12:31 pm #1,363

(03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm)citaro5284 Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?
Or Heyman?

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big mac



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03 Dec 2023, 12:31 pm #1,364
(02 Dec 2023, 3:12 pm)Storx I used to use it when I needed to get down to Birtley as the Blyth and Tyne tickets were valid so it was free to use it and would happily let a 21 or 2 go by to use it - it was quicker aswell and you'd always pass the 21 that I'd let go since it stops everywhere.

Arriva should definitely consider reintroducing the half hourly frequency for the Durham to Newcastle section of the X12.  I think they could provide some good competition for GNE if they did that
big mac
03 Dec 2023, 12:31 pm #1,364

(02 Dec 2023, 3:12 pm)Storx I used to use it when I needed to get down to Birtley as the Blyth and Tyne tickets were valid so it was free to use it and would happily let a 21 or 2 go by to use it - it was quicker aswell and you'd always pass the 21 that I'd let go since it stops everywhere.

Arriva should definitely consider reintroducing the half hourly frequency for the Durham to Newcastle section of the X12.  I think they could provide some good competition for GNE if they did that

Andreos1



14,111
03 Dec 2023, 1:30 pm #1,365
(03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm)citaro5284 Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?

Aren't they Santa's reindeer?

(03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am)Aaron21 Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)

Seeing as a big chunk of the fleet are (or were last week) parked up at Volvo in Crowther, they're going to struggle - drivers or not.
Edited 03 Dec 2023, 1:33 pm by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
03 Dec 2023, 1:30 pm #1,365

(03 Dec 2023, 12:28 pm)citaro5284 Casper, Melchoir or Balthasar?

Aren't they Santa's reindeer?

(03 Dec 2023, 11:57 am)Aaron21 Give it a few days. There's no way in hell journeys ain't getting cancelled. Find that hard to believe. Before the strikes there were cancelled services left right amd centre then all of a sudden the services are complete fine. I'm sure a certain wise man will come in here and bless is with his long paragraph on how the depot are now full staffed (like we haven't heard that sentence before)

Seeing as a big chunk of the fleet are (or were last week) parked up at Volvo in Crowther, they're going to struggle - drivers or not.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Thomas12



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03 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm #1,366
(03 Dec 2023, 3:47 am)itsadam I could argue that customer service is as important as a punctual bus service

On this note, are GNE now offering customer service on a weekends and longer hours? They seem to be replying to complaints/comments today and yesterday.
Thomas12
03 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm #1,366

(03 Dec 2023, 3:47 am)itsadam I could argue that customer service is as important as a punctual bus service

On this note, are GNE now offering customer service on a weekends and longer hours? They seem to be replying to complaints/comments today and yesterday.

MurdnunoC



3,960
03 Dec 2023, 7:42 pm #1,367
(03 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm)Thomas12 On this note, are GNE now offering customer service on a weekends and longer hours? They seem to be replying to complaints/comments today and yesterday.
It's all about productivity, you see.

Their counterparts at Stagecoach are more productive (with shorter/unpaid breaks), so it's a drive to increase productivity by making customer service work weekends/evenings.

Or at least that's what supermarket worker at Aldi told me as they were stocking shelves whilst being on the till at the same time.

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MurdnunoC
03 Dec 2023, 7:42 pm #1,367

(03 Dec 2023, 7:14 pm)Thomas12 On this note, are GNE now offering customer service on a weekends and longer hours? They seem to be replying to complaints/comments today and yesterday.
It's all about productivity, you see.

Their counterparts at Stagecoach are more productive (with shorter/unpaid breaks), so it's a drive to increase productivity by making customer service work weekends/evenings.

Or at least that's what supermarket worker at Aldi told me as they were stocking shelves whilst being on the till at the same time.

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mb134



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03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm #1,368
(03 Dec 2023, 7:42 pm)MurdnunoC It's all about productivity, you see.

Their counterparts at Stagecoach are more productive (with shorter/unpaid breaks), so it's a drive to increase productivity by making customer service work weekends/evenings.

Or at least that's what supermarket worker at Aldi told me as they were stocking shelves whilst being on the till at the same time.

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I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.
mb134
03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm #1,368

(03 Dec 2023, 7:42 pm)MurdnunoC It's all about productivity, you see.

Their counterparts at Stagecoach are more productive (with shorter/unpaid breaks), so it's a drive to increase productivity by making customer service work weekends/evenings.

Or at least that's what supermarket worker at Aldi told me as they were stocking shelves whilst being on the till at the same time.

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I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.

L469 YVK



3,532
03 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm #1,369
(03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm)mb134 I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.
Think the Traffic Commissioner would have raised eyebrows if that was happening haha!

Love the sarcasm though if intended! Smile
L469 YVK
03 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm #1,369

(03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm)mb134 I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.
Think the Traffic Commissioner would have raised eyebrows if that was happening haha!

Love the sarcasm though if intended! Smile

MurdnunoC



3,960
03 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm #1,370
(03 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm)L469 YVK Think the Traffic Commissioner would have raised eyebrows if that was happening haha!

Love the sarcasm though if intended! Smile

I don't know where you get the temerity to suggest anyone on this forum is being sarcastic.

Next you'll be saying that I'm extracting the urine out of you by suggesting that a zeppelin service is more viable than a bus between Newbiggin and Newcastle.
MurdnunoC
03 Dec 2023, 8:39 pm #1,370

(03 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm)L469 YVK Think the Traffic Commissioner would have raised eyebrows if that was happening haha!

Love the sarcasm though if intended! Smile

I don't know where you get the temerity to suggest anyone on this forum is being sarcastic.

Next you'll be saying that I'm extracting the urine out of you by suggesting that a zeppelin service is more viable than a bus between Newbiggin and Newcastle.

F114TML



881
03 Dec 2023, 9:05 pm #1,371
(03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm)mb134 I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.

Jokes on them though. We do 3 crosswords per stop using only our feet.
F114TML
03 Dec 2023, 9:05 pm #1,371

(03 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm)mb134 I'd heard the drivers are actually the ones on customer service duties to improve their productivity relative to the Stagecoach drivers. At all traffic lights they're expected to load up their assigned social media platform (single deck drivers are Facebook, double deck on Twitter) and respond to at least 5 queries per stop.

Jokes on them though. We do 3 crosswords per stop using only our feet.

itsadam



133
04 Dec 2023, 12:13 am #1,372
I got told that at least 28 drivers have been suspended over comments on social media, and 19 have quit already
itsadam
04 Dec 2023, 12:13 am #1,372

I got told that at least 28 drivers have been suspended over comments on social media, and 19 have quit already

Unber43



3,505
04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am #1,373
(04 Dec 2023, 12:13 am)itsadam I got told that at least 28 drivers have been suspended over comments on social media, and 19 have quit already
Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday
Unber43
04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am #1,373

(04 Dec 2023, 12:13 am)itsadam I got told that at least 28 drivers have been suspended over comments on social media, and 19 have quit already
Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday

MurdnunoC



3,960
04 Dec 2023, 6:34 am #1,374
(04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am)Unber43 Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday

I don't think 'Ben' exists now that the strike is over. His name seems to be have omitted from various news stories over the past few days; replaced by someone called 'Nigel', who has seemingly resolved the strike, and gifted free travel to passengers all week. If the rumours are true, 'Nigel' is heading out to the middle-east next week to broker some sort of deal between Israel and Hamas, both of whom have requested his services due to his success in his role here. What a guy 'Nigel' is, shame 'Ben' couldn't be more like him.
MurdnunoC
04 Dec 2023, 6:34 am #1,374

(04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am)Unber43 Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday

I don't think 'Ben' exists now that the strike is over. His name seems to be have omitted from various news stories over the past few days; replaced by someone called 'Nigel', who has seemingly resolved the strike, and gifted free travel to passengers all week. If the rumours are true, 'Nigel' is heading out to the middle-east next week to broker some sort of deal between Israel and Hamas, both of whom have requested his services due to his success in his role here. What a guy 'Nigel' is, shame 'Ben' couldn't be more like him.

MVK 500R



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04 Dec 2023, 7:02 am #1,375
(04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am)Unber43 Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday
Publicly slating your employer on social media is usually seen as bringing the company into disrepute and disciplinary action usually follows.

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MVK 500R
04 Dec 2023, 7:02 am #1,375

(04 Dec 2023, 12:46 am)Unber43 Like what.

That Ben's a bell**d, sometimes the truth just hurts that nigel is a C U Next Tuesday
Publicly slating your employer on social media is usually seen as bringing the company into disrepute and disciplinary action usually follows.

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Adrian



9,552
04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm #1,376
(04 Dec 2023, 7:02 am)MVK 500R Publicly slating your employer on social media is usually seen as bringing the company into disrepute and disciplinary action usually follows.

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If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

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Adrian
04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm #1,376

(04 Dec 2023, 7:02 am)MVK 500R Publicly slating your employer on social media is usually seen as bringing the company into disrepute and disciplinary action usually follows.

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If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.


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mb134



4,093
04 Dec 2023, 1:14 pm #1,377
(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

He's avoided it by being super productive, some reports are that he's actually more productive than Stagecoach drivers if you would believe it? 

As an aside, I've heard that the following bloke would actually be fired at GNE as 98% just isn't productive enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfiw3lwrkp0.
mb134
04 Dec 2023, 1:14 pm #1,377

(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

He's avoided it by being super productive, some reports are that he's actually more productive than Stagecoach drivers if you would believe it? 

As an aside, I've heard that the following bloke would actually be fired at GNE as 98% just isn't productive enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfiw3lwrkp0.

MVK 500R



106
04 Dec 2023, 2:03 pm #1,378
(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.
Absolutely it should be across the board.

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MVK 500R
04 Dec 2023, 2:03 pm #1,378

(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.
Absolutely it should be across the board.

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DeltaMan



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04 Dec 2023, 2:30 pm #1,379
(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

As unwise as some of the staff comms were, I can't recall seeing defamatory comments in what has been made public or anything derogatory being shared from his or Feathams social media accounts.....
DeltaMan
04 Dec 2023, 2:30 pm #1,379

(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

As unwise as some of the staff comms were, I can't recall seeing defamatory comments in what has been made public or anything derogatory being shared from his or Feathams social media accounts.....

Ambassador



1,788
04 Dec 2023, 5:01 pm #1,380
(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

As much as I hate the comms from GNE, the behaviour of some drivers on that GNE Facebook strike debate group has been incredibly ill advised. I get the emotional context and getting riled up by the average thicko who uses Facebook 

Would have hoped the Union might have given some advice out

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Dec 2023, 5:01 pm #1,380

(04 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm)Adrian If we're talking bringing the company into disrepute, then I wonder when they'll be hitting  Ben with the book, for his staff comms during the dispute.

Policies apply to everyone, after all.

As much as I hate the comms from GNE, the behaviour of some drivers on that GNE Facebook strike debate group has been incredibly ill advised. I get the emotional context and getting riled up by the average thicko who uses Facebook 

Would have hoped the Union might have given some advice out


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

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