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16 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm #2,401
Are the 18, 32/32A, 35 and 317 up for tender next month? Staying with Stagecoach?

If GCT have got the 335/351/359 it will be interesting to see who has won the 19 and 41A/342.

The 653 will probably be Stagecoach with it being Freeman and Wallsend, unless Arriva get it so the 553/653 is fully Arriva.
OrangeArrow49
16 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm #2,401

Are the 18, 32/32A, 35 and 317 up for tender next month? Staying with Stagecoach?

If GCT have got the 335/351/359 it will be interesting to see who has won the 19 and 41A/342.

The 653 will probably be Stagecoach with it being Freeman and Wallsend, unless Arriva get it so the 553/653 is fully Arriva.

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17 Feb 2024, 9:35 am #2,402
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19 Feb 2024, 10:34 am #2,403
(16 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are the 18, 32/32A, 35 and 317 up for tender next month? Staying with Stagecoach?

If GCT have got the 335/351/359 it will be interesting to see who has won the 19 and 41A/342.

The 653 will probably be Stagecoach with it being Freeman and Wallsend, unless Arriva get it so the 553/653 is fully Arriva.

Not to my knowledge.35 I know is most definitely as it will be swapped with the Q3 (route not company)between Jesmond and Gosforth section according to Nexus but not sure on the other nexus contracted bus services.
Here is the link(if needed)https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus...-newcastle
Edited 19 Feb 2024, 10:34 am by BusEnthusiast.com.
BusEnthusiast.com
19 Feb 2024, 10:34 am #2,403

(16 Feb 2024, 12:11 pm)OrangeArrow49 Are the 18, 32/32A, 35 and 317 up for tender next month? Staying with Stagecoach?

If GCT have got the 335/351/359 it will be interesting to see who has won the 19 and 41A/342.

The 653 will probably be Stagecoach with it being Freeman and Wallsend, unless Arriva get it so the 553/653 is fully Arriva.

Not to my knowledge.35 I know is most definitely as it will be swapped with the Q3 (route not company)between Jesmond and Gosforth section according to Nexus but not sure on the other nexus contracted bus services.
Here is the link(if needed)https://www.nexus.org.uk/news/item/nexus...-newcastle

21 Feb 2024, 11:47 am #2,404
So I’ve heard a rumour that Slatyford won’t have the 27***’s they got from Stockton for much longer. Anyone know anything about this?
ReDemPTiion
21 Feb 2024, 11:47 am #2,404

So I’ve heard a rumour that Slatyford won’t have the 27***’s they got from Stockton for much longer. Anyone know anything about this?

21 Feb 2024, 8:03 pm #2,405
Does anyone know if Stagecoach has won any more work? Just with the 3 darts being transferred here I assumed they were to replace MAN E200s but with 39658 and 39668 also getting fixed back up at Hartlepool im not so sure now.
Dans_bus_photos
21 Feb 2024, 8:03 pm #2,405

Does anyone know if Stagecoach has won any more work? Just with the 3 darts being transferred here I assumed they were to replace MAN E200s but with 39658 and 39668 also getting fixed back up at Hartlepool im not so sure now.

Aaron21



792
21 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm #2,406
(21 Feb 2024, 8:03 pm)Dans_bus_photos Does anyone know if Stagecoach has won any more work? Just with the 3 darts being transferred here I assumed they were to replace MAN E200s but with 39658 and 39668 also getting fixed back up at Hartlepool im not so sure now.

Don't believe the nexus tenders are out in North Tyneside so who knows
Aaron21
21 Feb 2024, 8:45 pm #2,406

(21 Feb 2024, 8:03 pm)Dans_bus_photos Does anyone know if Stagecoach has won any more work? Just with the 3 darts being transferred here I assumed they were to replace MAN E200s but with 39658 and 39668 also getting fixed back up at Hartlepool im not so sure now.

Don't believe the nexus tenders are out in North Tyneside so who knows

22 Feb 2024, 8:24 am #2,407
(21 Feb 2024, 11:47 am)ReDemPTiion So I’ve heard a rumour that Slatyford won’t have the 27***’s they got from Stockton for much longer. Anyone know anything about this?

Given that the reason those Stockton vehicles moved to Slatyford in the first place was to cope with the need for low emissions in the Newcastle area, the only reasons that they would be moved back out again would be if there were newer replacements arriving or there were less vehicles required due to service reductions.
Ianthegoon
22 Feb 2024, 8:24 am #2,407

(21 Feb 2024, 11:47 am)ReDemPTiion So I’ve heard a rumour that Slatyford won’t have the 27***’s they got from Stockton for much longer. Anyone know anything about this?

Given that the reason those Stockton vehicles moved to Slatyford in the first place was to cope with the need for low emissions in the Newcastle area, the only reasons that they would be moved back out again would be if there were newer replacements arriving or there were less vehicles required due to service reductions.

22 Feb 2024, 11:56 am #2,408
(22 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Ianthegoon Given that the reason those Stockton vehicles moved to Slatyford in the first place was to cope with the need for low emissions in the Newcastle area, the only reasons that they would be moved back out again would be if there were newer replacements arriving or there were less vehicles required due to service reductions.
Well I did hear that stocktons 26***’s are only on contract with them until some time this year again dunno how true that is but could be swapping the 27’s for them but in my personal opinion I can’t see that happening all rumours that I ain’t believing until it happens
ReDemPTiion
22 Feb 2024, 11:56 am #2,408

(22 Feb 2024, 8:24 am)Ianthegoon Given that the reason those Stockton vehicles moved to Slatyford in the first place was to cope with the need for low emissions in the Newcastle area, the only reasons that they would be moved back out again would be if there were newer replacements arriving or there were less vehicles required due to service reductions.
Well I did hear that stocktons 26***’s are only on contract with them until some time this year again dunno how true that is but could be swapping the 27’s for them but in my personal opinion I can’t see that happening all rumours that I ain’t believing until it happens

Storx



4,640
22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm #2,409
(22 Feb 2024, 11:56 am)ReDemPTiion Well I did hear that stocktons 26***’s are only on contract with them until some time this year again dunno how true that is but could be swapping the 27’s for them but in my personal opinion I can’t see that happening all rumours that I ain’t believing until it happens

Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.
Storx
22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm #2,409

(22 Feb 2024, 11:56 am)ReDemPTiion Well I did hear that stocktons 26***’s are only on contract with them until some time this year again dunno how true that is but could be swapping the 27’s for them but in my personal opinion I can’t see that happening all rumours that I ain’t believing until it happens

Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.

Kuyoyo



6,856
22 Feb 2024, 12:13 pm #2,410
(22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm)Storx Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.

Back to Stockton to see off the MAN E300s, the 2 remaining MAN ALX300s and the 275xx E300s (which imho should have gone last year instead of the other ALX300s given they are older than the MANs)? Likely Stockton may need additional resources soon anyway with additional routes starting in April.
Kuyoyo
22 Feb 2024, 12:13 pm #2,410

(22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm)Storx Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.

Back to Stockton to see off the MAN E300s, the 2 remaining MAN ALX300s and the 275xx E300s (which imho should have gone last year instead of the other ALX300s given they are older than the MANs)? Likely Stockton may need additional resources soon anyway with additional routes starting in April.

22 Feb 2024, 12:58 pm #2,411
(22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm)Storx Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.
I believe if the ZEBRA2 bid is successful which I’m hoping it will be once we get the new buses the 24***’s will be scrapped along with 22581. Although I don’t think 22581 will last that long thought it would have been scrapped by now or sent to Stockton with the others.
ReDemPTiion
22 Feb 2024, 12:58 pm #2,411

(22 Feb 2024, 12:00 pm)Storx Just speculating here but if there's no time limit to this 'soon'. They could be displaced out if they win the ZEBRA2 bid for the electrics on the 30/31. I know it was said that older buses would be displaced to other areas in the region - assuming Sunderland to see off the remaining gas buses.
I believe if the ZEBRA2 bid is successful which I’m hoping it will be once we get the new buses the 24***’s will be scrapped along with 22581. Although I don’t think 22581 will last that long thought it would have been scrapped by now or sent to Stockton with the others.

Storx



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22 Feb 2024, 1:12 pm #2,412
(22 Feb 2024, 12:13 pm)Kuyoyo Back to Stockton to see off the MAN E300s, the 2 remaining MAN ALX300s and the 275xx E300s (which imho should have gone last year instead of the other ALX300s given they are older than the MANs)? Likely Stockton may need additional resources soon anyway with additional routes starting in April.

Yeah that's fair, thought they might have not bothered with Stockton, since it's got it's own ZEBRA bid in which appears to be replacing most of the fleet.

(22 Feb 2024, 12:58 pm)ReDemPTiion I believe if the ZEBRA2 bid is successful which I’m hoping it will be once we get the new buses the 24***’s will be scrapped along with 22581. Although I don’t think 22581 will last that long thought it would have been scrapped by now or sent to Stockton with the others.

Aye they should, who knows though. There's so much stuff that needs to go soon. The Darts lingering on being another but there's nothing to replace E200's as far as I'm aware.
Storx
22 Feb 2024, 1:12 pm #2,412

(22 Feb 2024, 12:13 pm)Kuyoyo Back to Stockton to see off the MAN E300s, the 2 remaining MAN ALX300s and the 275xx E300s (which imho should have gone last year instead of the other ALX300s given they are older than the MANs)? Likely Stockton may need additional resources soon anyway with additional routes starting in April.

Yeah that's fair, thought they might have not bothered with Stockton, since it's got it's own ZEBRA bid in which appears to be replacing most of the fleet.

(22 Feb 2024, 12:58 pm)ReDemPTiion I believe if the ZEBRA2 bid is successful which I’m hoping it will be once we get the new buses the 24***’s will be scrapped along with 22581. Although I don’t think 22581 will last that long thought it would have been scrapped by now or sent to Stockton with the others.

Aye they should, who knows though. There's so much stuff that needs to go soon. The Darts lingering on being another but there's nothing to replace E200's as far as I'm aware.

col87



506
22 Feb 2024, 3:17 pm #2,413
(22 Feb 2024, 1:12 pm)Storx Yeah that's fair, thought they might have not bothered with Stockton, since it's got it's own ZEBRA bid in which appears to be replacing most of the fleet.


Aye they should, who knows though. There's so much stuff that needs to go soon. The Darts lingering on being another but there's nothing to replace E200's as far as I'm aware.

If Newcastle no longer need the 27s that got sent up from Stockton then the easiest thing to do is send some to Hartlepool that would see off the darts and the worse of the Enviro 200s and yes I do believe they will fit over the pits as well as they roughly no bigger than manviro 200s.
col87
22 Feb 2024, 3:17 pm #2,413

(22 Feb 2024, 1:12 pm)Storx Yeah that's fair, thought they might have not bothered with Stockton, since it's got it's own ZEBRA bid in which appears to be replacing most of the fleet.


Aye they should, who knows though. There's so much stuff that needs to go soon. The Darts lingering on being another but there's nothing to replace E200's as far as I'm aware.

If Newcastle no longer need the 27s that got sent up from Stockton then the easiest thing to do is send some to Hartlepool that would see off the darts and the worse of the Enviro 200s and yes I do believe they will fit over the pits as well as they roughly no bigger than manviro 200s.

Storx



4,640
22 Feb 2024, 6:13 pm #2,414
(22 Feb 2024, 3:17 pm)col87 If Newcastle no longer need the 27s that got sent up from Stockton then the easiest thing to do is send some to Hartlepool that would see off the darts and the worse of the Enviro 200s and yes I do believe they will fit over the pits as well as they roughly no bigger than manviro 200s.

Aye possibly, I'm not sure on the lengths so can't say much really. My heart would say Sunderland for anything spare though, whether they upgrade Enviro 200's routes there aswell and displace those to Hartlepool instead - who knows.
Storx
22 Feb 2024, 6:13 pm #2,414

(22 Feb 2024, 3:17 pm)col87 If Newcastle no longer need the 27s that got sent up from Stockton then the easiest thing to do is send some to Hartlepool that would see off the darts and the worse of the Enviro 200s and yes I do believe they will fit over the pits as well as they roughly no bigger than manviro 200s.

Aye possibly, I'm not sure on the lengths so can't say much really. My heart would say Sunderland for anything spare though, whether they upgrade Enviro 200's routes there aswell and displace those to Hartlepool instead - who knows.

col87



506
22 Feb 2024, 8:44 pm #2,415
(22 Feb 2024, 6:13 pm)Storx Aye possibly, I'm not sure on the lengths so can't say much really. My heart would say Sunderland for anything spare though, whether they upgrade Enviro 200's routes there aswell and displace those to Hartlepool instead - who knows.

The last thing Hartlepool needs is more enviro 200s they simply for whatever reason have not worked and many of them seem to constantly have issues and I think a few have of the 360s have been of the road for a while.  36461 has constantly had one issue after another and if the lights actually work it’s an achievement if it not that it’s the doors not working or countless issues.  The 04 darts despite there age are still actually the best buses Hartlepool have got which really says how poor the Enviros are.
col87
22 Feb 2024, 8:44 pm #2,415

(22 Feb 2024, 6:13 pm)Storx Aye possibly, I'm not sure on the lengths so can't say much really. My heart would say Sunderland for anything spare though, whether they upgrade Enviro 200's routes there aswell and displace those to Hartlepool instead - who knows.

The last thing Hartlepool needs is more enviro 200s they simply for whatever reason have not worked and many of them seem to constantly have issues and I think a few have of the 360s have been of the road for a while.  36461 has constantly had one issue after another and if the lights actually work it’s an achievement if it not that it’s the doors not working or countless issues.  The 04 darts despite there age are still actually the best buses Hartlepool have got which really says how poor the Enviros are.

LVK 404L



997
23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am #2,416
Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6. Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic. A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.
LVK 404L
23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am #2,416

Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6. Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic. A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.

ne14ne1



1,521
23 Feb 2024, 11:23 am #2,417
(23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am)ifm001 Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6.  Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic.  A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.

Who for, a few spotters?
ne14ne1
23 Feb 2024, 11:23 am #2,417

(23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am)ifm001 Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6.  Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic.  A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.

Who for, a few spotters?

LVK 404L



997
23 Feb 2024, 12:18 pm #2,418
(23 Feb 2024, 11:23 am)ne14ne1 Who for, a few spotters?


No, as an acknowledgement to history.  Life doesnt evolve around spotters!
LVK 404L
23 Feb 2024, 12:18 pm #2,418

(23 Feb 2024, 11:23 am)ne14ne1 Who for, a few spotters?


No, as an acknowledgement to history.  Life doesnt evolve around spotters!

Andreos1



14,260
23 Feb 2024, 1:47 pm #2,419
(23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am)ifm001 Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6.  Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic.  A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.

Did the Olympians go straight in to the livery from new? 
Always thought they suited the livery better than the Atlanteans.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
23 Feb 2024, 1:47 pm #2,419

(23 Feb 2024, 9:51 am)ifm001 Just going back to the topic of the new electric vehicles for thr E1, E2 and E6.  Looking though some old pics, the Economic brand was re introduced and branded on atlanteans 271, 272, 273 amd 274 during 1985 for the 60th celebrations of Economic making it 60 years 1925 to 1985, therefore next year 2025 will be the 100 years, Century, of Economic.  A good time to do a relaunch and celebrations.

Did the Olympians go straight in to the livery from new? 
Always thought they suited the livery better than the Atlanteans.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

LVK 404L



997
23 Feb 2024, 2:12 pm #2,420
(23 Feb 2024, 1:47 pm)Andreos1 Did the Olympians go straight in to the livery from new? 
Always thought they suited the livery better than the Atlanteans.

Only 648 and 649 did.  641-647 arrived in PTE yellow first then into Busways Blue.,  it was quiite a few years later when all 641-649 went into Economic
LVK 404L
23 Feb 2024, 2:12 pm #2,420

(23 Feb 2024, 1:47 pm)Andreos1 Did the Olympians go straight in to the livery from new? 
Always thought they suited the livery better than the Atlanteans.

Only 648 and 649 did.  641-647 arrived in PTE yellow first then into Busways Blue.,  it was quiite a few years later when all 641-649 went into Economic

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