As a few examples, none of the following flows are covered by the 1/2/57/57A:

• Newcastle to Cramlington Industrial Estate
  
• Newcastle to Guide Post/Bedlington
  
• Regent Centre to Cramlington Industrial Estate
  
• Regent Centre to Bedlington/Bedlington Station/Ashington/Guide Post/Stakeford/Newbiggin
  
• Cramlington Industrial Estate to Bedlington Station/Stakeford/Nedderton/Bedlington (west end/towards Rothesay Terrace)/Newbiggin/Ashington (bar the town centre)
  

Regent Centre to anywhere on the Northumberland Line would require either 2 changes (at South Gosforth and Northumberland Park) or a trip into town first to change at Central. If you've got a direct bus who is going to do that given it'll take longer? 

I think there'll be an impact on the bus in some areas, particularly because of the recent impacts of driver shortages and cancelled trips, but as someone who has had a lot of exposure to these services there are a large amount of passengers who won't be able to complete their trips on the Northumberland Line.

Aye of course, I don't expect the buses to be cancelled all together of course. 

I don't want to go down the suggestions but I wouldn't be surprised to see the X22 go via Cramlington to stock up the X10/X11 personally. 

Drop the X10/X11 down to 3 BPH and then have the X22 running with them so it's 6 BPH to Cramlington. It could easily run the current route to Brockwell then just rejoin the current route by the A192. 

Cramlington isn't going nowhere. Personally I'd love to see the X9 upped to 3 BPH aswell and try and grow it on the massive new housing estates being built at the West side of the town tbh.

When it's 7581 due to transfer to redcar

When it's 7581 due to transfer to redcar

 I been thinking the same  as its meant to be coming down and that about pulling doors I'm sure u have made that up 

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Much of Arriva North East deserves some new buses and investment, it shouldn't be the north vs the south of the area.  I do agree that Redcar don't look after their buses very well though, or even allocate properly.
Double deckers are often seen on the 62, which is a complete waste. 
And I've seen myself drivers literally kicking buses, pulling and tugging at doors trying to get them to close properly and so on, at Redcar Clock right outside their office and in full view of many passengers.  It doesn't tell me that they have any pride in their fleet or look after them properly.

Redcar do lool after there buses  when deckers on the 62 there down from whitby for a reson and absolutely bull about drivers pulling doors or closing

 I been thinking the same  as its meant to be coming down and that about pulling doors I'm sure u have made that up 

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Redcar do lool after there buses  when deckers on the 62 there down from whitby for a reson and absolutely bull about drivers pulling doors or closing

The thing about drivers with the doors is true. Most of the Driver Cab doors are dodgy because of wear and tear so they have to be rammed shut.

When it's 7581 due to transfer to redcar

Seemingly delayed a little while, have heard it’s until they have 7574 back on the road (accident damage the other week) which sounds plausible.
Also they’ve received 1539 but the engine fitted didn’t last too long so needs a return to Durham…!

Redcar I am told are prepping 7424 for a return…


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I’m guessing 7579/7580/7581 are transfers & 7578 is only a loan


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I’m guessing 7579/7580/7581 are transfers & 7578 is only a loan


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From what everyone was saying before, I believe they are all transfers to ensure the X93/X94 has maximum capacity. And I must say, it hasn't been a great start.

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Seemingly delayed a little while, have heard it’s until they have 7574 back on the road (accident damage the other week) which sounds plausible.
Also they’ve received 1539 but the engine fitted didn’t last too long so needs a return to Durham…!

Redcar I am told are prepping 7424 for a return…


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That doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised if its not 7425 which seemed more reliable than 24 and 26

From what everyone was saying before, I believe they are all transfers to ensure the X93/X94 has maximum capacity. And I must say, it hasn't been a great start.

7579/7580/7581 are to replace 7424/5/6 so 7578 has to be on loan to help cover 7581 to wait for 7574 to return


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7579/7580/7581 are to replace 7424/5/6 so 7578 has to be on loan to help cover 7581 to wait for 7574 to return


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That's incorrect. 7578 is a permanent transfer, as are the other three.

That's incorrect. 7578 is a permanent transfer, as are the other three.

 I herd from a driver  that 7579 80 81 are  permanently transferred  7578 is fillings in for 7401 and 7581 till it transfers over

 I herd from a driver  that 7579 80 81 are  permanently transferred  7578 is fillings in for 7401 and 7581 till it transfers over

And I'm telling you that's incorrect. 7578 is a permanent transfer. 

7424 is reported as coming back to cover for 7401.

Believe what you like, I'm not lying. Am talking about the outer doors and entrance area, I've seen Redcar drivers knock hell out of the doors in full view of the Redcar office and many passengers.

Believe what you like, I'm not lying.  Am talking about the outer doors and entrance area, I've seen Redcar drivers knock hell out of the doors in full view of the Redcar office and many passengers.

This therd is only for the e400mmc  only  topic so don't know why u saying that rubbish on here

To be honest, I don't see anything majorly changing in Ashington. Blyth will be the worst hit if anything.

Most I can see at Ashington is X21/X22 reduced to every 30 mins each and maybe the X20 reduced from double to single deckers.

With a PVR reduction for the X21/X22/35 (from 21x to 14x), no doubt that would leave enough E400MMC to transfer from Ashington to Whitby / Redcar if needed to allow the B9TLs to take a back seat role.

Not sure if this is true but I think one of E400MMCs at Redcar are on loan to cover for 7581 while it’s still at Ashington to cover for 7574 once 7574 has returned to service 7581 will probably transfer over to Redcar then one of them at Redcar will go back to Ashington


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Not sure if this is true but I think one of E400MMCs at Redcar are on loan to cover for 7581 while it’s still at Ashington to cover for 7574 once 7574 has returned to service 7581 will probably transfer over to Redcar then one of them at Redcar will go back to Ashington


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You've posted this multiple times now and been told that it's wrong, you should probably stop posting false information.

You've posted this multiple times now and been told that it's wrong, you should probably stop posting false information.

What do you mean false information? It’s just what I’ve been told actually, I’m not sure who’s telling the truth or lying


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What do you mean false information? It’s just what I’ve been told actually, I’m not sure who’s telling the truth or lying


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Think about it for a second maybe? Why would they send one down on loan in place of the one that should be going down which is perfectly serviceable? 

If 7581 was planned to go down and was VOR it would make sense but it isn't, so it doesn't. 

Obviously it's also been confirmed by multiple people on multiple sites that 4 are to transfer.

Four vehicles will transfer. 7581 is being held at Ashington to cover for 7574. It will transfer once that is repaired.

RobinHoodFour vehicles will transfer. 7581 is being held at Ashington to cover for 7574. It will transfer once that is repaired.

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Four vehicles will transfer. 7581 is being held at Ashington to cover for 7574. It will transfer once that is repaired.

So dose that mean all 4 will be permanently staying at Redcar whitby

So dose that mean all 4 will be permanently staying at Redcar whitby

How many times does someone need to tell you that 4 are moving permanently?

Four vehicles will transfer. 7581 is being held at Ashington to cover for 7574. It will transfer once that is repaired.

Should be transferring this weekend - 1404 is now at Ashington officially 'on loan' as 7574's cover.

Think about it for a second maybe? Why would they send one down on loan in place of the one that should be going down which is perfectly serviceable? 

If 7581 was planned to go down and was VOR it would make sense but it isn't, so it doesn't. 

Obviously it's also been confirmed by multiple people on multiple sites that 4 are to transfer.

Well I’m not the one to blame, I got told one was on loan until I got told again that all 4 are transferring so not my fault


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Wasn't 7581 ment to be transferred down as 1404 got transferred up

Wasn't 7581 ment to be transferred down as 1404 got transferred up

No. 7581 is planned to stay until 7574 is repaired.

1404 heading north is unrelated and instead is to provide additional spare cover due to the high volume of major unit repairs ongoing at Ashington/Blyth.

7578 I found out today is actually a loan ?... as there is a white a4 piece of paper stuck on the door side window stating that it is on loan from Arriva Northumbria Ltd to Arriva Durham County Ltd. Also I passed 7579 as well and glanced over and also saw a white piece of paper so I assume that said the same thing. Also looking at Flickr it seems 7580 has some paper on it too so they all seem to be loaned not actually transferred. Strange as I thought they were transferred…

7578 I found out today is actually a loan as there is a white a4 piece of paper stuck on the door side window stating that it is on loan from Arriva Northumbria Ltd to Arriva Durham County Ltd. Also I passed 7579 as well and glanced over and also saw a white piece of paper so I assume that said the same thing. Also looking at Flickr it seems 7580 has some paper on it too so they all seem to be loaned not actually transferred. Strange as I thought they were transferred…

They have transferred. Until the legal lettering has been changed to display Arriva Durham County Ltd, these sheets have been displayed to show that if an accident happens with one of these vehicles, the correct area is given for insurance purposes.

Does this legal lettering really matter?

Does this legal lettering really matter?

No not really, don’t you wonder why the word LEGAL is written there…

Of course it matters

They have transferred. Until the legal lettering has been changed to display Arriva Durham County Ltd, these sheets have been displayed to show that if an accident happens with one of these vehicles, the correct area is given for insurance purposes.

Ahh that makes sense. As it still shows Arriva Northumbria Ltd below with the address etc… And I guess any accidents that may happen this sheet of paper is proof of ownership.