Stagecoach North East Latest News
Stagecoach North East Latest News
(24 Apr 2024, 11:28 pm)Rapidsnap I had a little play around. If Stagecoach had money to burn and wish to rebuild Hartlepool depot, I would purchase the spare land and build new depot and offices on that (highlighted with yellow for engineering area, and red for offices, with staff parking in the orange area.) I would put a new entrance / exit onto Usworth Road (purple box) which is a quieter road for vehicles to leave the depot and to avoid conflict with traffic with the nearby Aldi. I would also close up the old exit at the North End of the depot. The fuelling and wash area would be moved over to the East side of the depot next to Brenda Road (blue box), whilst space left from demolition of old buildings and old fuel / wash area would be used for bus parking with vehicles parked in a straight line like at other depots and also parking bays at the North End of the depot for vehicles that are long term off road or awaiting repair.
(24 Apr 2024, 11:28 pm)Rapidsnap I had a little play around. If Stagecoach had money to burn and wish to rebuild Hartlepool depot, I would purchase the spare land and build new depot and offices on that (highlighted with yellow for engineering area, and red for offices, with staff parking in the orange area.) I would put a new entrance / exit onto Usworth Road (purple box) which is a quieter road for vehicles to leave the depot and to avoid conflict with traffic with the nearby Aldi. I would also close up the old exit at the North End of the depot. The fuelling and wash area would be moved over to the East side of the depot next to Brenda Road (blue box), whilst space left from demolition of old buildings and old fuel / wash area would be used for bus parking with vehicles parked in a straight line like at other depots and also parking bays at the North End of the depot for vehicles that are long term off road or awaiting repair.
(25 Apr 2024, 6:48 am)Storx Tbh long term I wouldn't be surprised if they rebuilt Stockton instead and turn Hartlepool into an outstation at the same time
The place looks like it's ready to fall down. Wouldn't be difficult to do as you could just swap over buses at Middlesbrough on the 1/36
(25 Apr 2024, 6:48 am)Storx Tbh long term I wouldn't be surprised if they rebuilt Stockton instead and turn Hartlepool into an outstation at the same time
The place looks like it's ready to fall down. Wouldn't be difficult to do as you could just swap over buses at Middlesbrough on the 1/36
(25 Apr 2024, 7:47 am)col87 It more or less already is as on Evenings and Weekends control is done from Stockton and any repairs or change of buses will be done by Stockton. Any major repairs are done by Stockton or Sunderland. It’s been rumoured for years that Hartlepool depot could close but hopefully that won’t be the case although wouldn’t be a surprise if it did happen.
(25 Apr 2024, 7:47 am)col87 It more or less already is as on Evenings and Weekends control is done from Stockton and any repairs or change of buses will be done by Stockton. Any major repairs are done by Stockton or Sunderland. It’s been rumoured for years that Hartlepool depot could close but hopefully that won’t be the case although wouldn’t be a surprise if it did happen.
(25 Apr 2024, 12:32 pm)Storx Agreed to be honest, same with South Shields aswell, especially since they took the most profitable (E's) routes off them
(25 Apr 2024, 12:32 pm)Storx Agreed to be honest, same with South Shields aswell, especially since they took the most profitable (E's) routes off them
(25 Apr 2024, 1:08 pm)deanmachine They wanted to close Chi years ago too as its quite expensive to maintain. I think they bought land elsewhere at one point too.
(25 Apr 2024, 1:08 pm)deanmachine They wanted to close Chi years ago too as its quite expensive to maintain. I think they bought land elsewhere at one point too.
(24 Apr 2024, 9:52 pm)col87 34611 had to be withdrawn yesterday as the speedometer was broke and 34605 apparently broke down at Clavering today. The 6/7 often gets packed so yes they definitely needs to be full size buses again.Let’s hope it’s a link from the Headland to Seaton , like the old 12. That would link both areas of Hartlepool that attract visitors.
They three solutions here for Stagecoach either they improve the pits/build new ones at the existing depot, move to a new and better depot elsewhere in the town, or have Stockton be responsible for the major engineering works on them. but the current plan is Stockton’s buses will be replacing the fleet once they get the electrics so they must be something in place.
I know they are looking into the Hartlepool network as well and I believe they are looking into bringing at least one former service back on a trail basis.
(24 Apr 2024, 9:52 pm)col87 34611 had to be withdrawn yesterday as the speedometer was broke and 34605 apparently broke down at Clavering today. The 6/7 often gets packed so yes they definitely needs to be full size buses again.Let’s hope it’s a link from the Headland to Seaton , like the old 12. That would link both areas of Hartlepool that attract visitors.
They three solutions here for Stagecoach either they improve the pits/build new ones at the existing depot, move to a new and better depot elsewhere in the town, or have Stockton be responsible for the major engineering works on them. but the current plan is Stockton’s buses will be replacing the fleet once they get the electrics so they must be something in place.
I know they are looking into the Hartlepool network as well and I believe they are looking into bringing at least one former service back on a trail basis.
(24 Apr 2024, 9:39 pm)col87 Stagecoach themselves have said this is the plan
(24 Apr 2024, 9:52 pm)col87 34611 had to be withdrawn yesterday as the speedometer was broke and 34605 apparently broke down at Clavering today. The 6/7 often gets packed so yes they definitely needs to be full size buses again.
They three solutions here for Stagecoach either they improve the pits/build new ones at the existing depot, move to a new and better depot elsewhere in the town, or have Stockton be responsible for the major engineering works on them. but the current plan is Stockton’s buses will be replacing the fleet once they get the electrics so they must be something in place.
I know they are looking into the Hartlepool network as well and I believe they are looking into bringing at least one former service back on a trail basis.
(25 Apr 2024, 1:49 pm)Storx Aye remember that being leaked and it all kicking off aswell with drivers.
I'm surprised it still exists tbh. It looks like the place is ready to fall down aswell so not surprised at the costs.
Be interesting what they would've done with the network if they did as it's a fair distance to Wheatsheaf for dead running and there's nothing really to interwork with. Can't imagine any of the routes there being the sort of routes that bring a lot of money in.
(24 Apr 2024, 9:39 pm)col87 Stagecoach themselves have said this is the plan
(24 Apr 2024, 9:52 pm)col87 34611 had to be withdrawn yesterday as the speedometer was broke and 34605 apparently broke down at Clavering today. The 6/7 often gets packed so yes they definitely needs to be full size buses again.
They three solutions here for Stagecoach either they improve the pits/build new ones at the existing depot, move to a new and better depot elsewhere in the town, or have Stockton be responsible for the major engineering works on them. but the current plan is Stockton’s buses will be replacing the fleet once they get the electrics so they must be something in place.
I know they are looking into the Hartlepool network as well and I believe they are looking into bringing at least one former service back on a trail basis.
(25 Apr 2024, 1:49 pm)Storx Aye remember that being leaked and it all kicking off aswell with drivers.
I'm surprised it still exists tbh. It looks like the place is ready to fall down aswell so not surprised at the costs.
Be interesting what they would've done with the network if they did as it's a fair distance to Wheatsheaf for dead running and there's nothing really to interwork with. Can't imagine any of the routes there being the sort of routes that bring a lot of money in.
(26 Apr 2024, 1:30 am)logidoodah Have you been liasing with Stagecoach?
It would be intresting wouldn't it. My best guess would be frequency reductions and have most things interwork off the E's. The E's would have to be at 20 mins frequencies for this to be viable. However with the arrival of electrics this line of thinking is redundant.
I would also potentially extend the 4 from Downhill into South Tyneside again to interwork with stuff...
Another way could be that GNE could make/reinstate routes - but we all know this won't happen and don't want this to happen.
(25 Apr 2024, 10:10 pm)Economic505 Let’s hope it’s a link from the Headland to Seaton , like the old 12. That would link both areas of Hartlepool that attract visitors.
(26 Apr 2024, 1:30 am)logidoodah Have you been liasing with Stagecoach?
It would be intresting wouldn't it. My best guess would be frequency reductions and have most things interwork off the E's. The E's would have to be at 20 mins frequencies for this to be viable. However with the arrival of electrics this line of thinking is redundant.
I would also potentially extend the 4 from Downhill into South Tyneside again to interwork with stuff...
Another way could be that GNE could make/reinstate routes - but we all know this won't happen and don't want this to happen.
(25 Apr 2024, 10:10 pm)Economic505 Let’s hope it’s a link from the Headland to Seaton , like the old 12. That would link both areas of Hartlepool that attract visitors.
(26 Apr 2024, 1:30 am)logidoodah Have you been liasing with Stagecoach?
It would be intresting wouldn't it. My best guess would be frequency reductions and have most things interwork off the E's. The E's would have to be at 20 mins frequencies for this to be viable. However with the arrival of electrics this line of thinking is redundant.
I would also potentially extend the 4 from Downhill into South Tyneside again to interwork with stuff...
Another way could be that GNE could make/reinstate routes - but we all know this won't happen and don't want this to happen.
(26 Apr 2024, 1:30 am)logidoodah Have you been liasing with Stagecoach?
It would be intresting wouldn't it. My best guess would be frequency reductions and have most things interwork off the E's. The E's would have to be at 20 mins frequencies for this to be viable. However with the arrival of electrics this line of thinking is redundant.
I would also potentially extend the 4 from Downhill into South Tyneside again to interwork with stuff...
Another way could be that GNE could make/reinstate routes - but we all know this won't happen and don't want this to happen.
(26 Apr 2024, 8:15 am)col87 I am on a public transport forum which has regular meetings in which the sub committee have meet with the stagecoach management and that’s what they have said. It’s why they are also looking into the full network in the town and they are hints that Teesflex won’t be around for much longer as they would prefer the money was spent on proper bus services.
Funny you think that as that is exactly the service that they are currently looking into bringing back and it was actually a member of the forum doing a detailed plan as well as drivers themselves wanting the 12 back which has got the plans this far.
I also know that Go North East also had plans to extend the X1 to Hartlepool but those got scrapped in favour of investing in the Durham network instead.
(26 Apr 2024, 8:15 am)col87 I am on a public transport forum which has regular meetings in which the sub committee have meet with the stagecoach management and that’s what they have said. It’s why they are also looking into the full network in the town and they are hints that Teesflex won’t be around for much longer as they would prefer the money was spent on proper bus services.
Funny you think that as that is exactly the service that they are currently looking into bringing back and it was actually a member of the forum doing a detailed plan as well as drivers themselves wanting the 12 back which has got the plans this far.
I also know that Go North East also had plans to extend the X1 to Hartlepool but those got scrapped in favour of investing in the Durham network instead.
(26 Apr 2024, 9:35 am)Storx Yeah agree I can't really see a sensible way of doing it tbh without remote changeovers in South Shields but it's a fair distance, mind not much further than Ashington to Morpeth saying that to be fair.
GoNorthEast would arguably be in an even worse position since they shut down the depot there too. Deptford / Washington are even further away unless they built a replacement for Washington somewhere as that place is falling down - there's a lot of depots falling down...
(26 Apr 2024, 9:35 am)Storx Yeah agree I can't really see a sensible way of doing it tbh without remote changeovers in South Shields but it's a fair distance, mind not much further than Ashington to Morpeth saying that to be fair.
GoNorthEast would arguably be in an even worse position since they shut down the depot there too. Deptford / Washington are even further away unless they built a replacement for Washington somewhere as that place is falling down - there's a lot of depots falling down...
(26 Apr 2024, 4:04 pm)deanmachine Back when the 88 went to Riverside depot they'd do changeovers at Jarrow bus station, way further than Deptford and Washington were. You can see why they've consolidated their South Tyneside only routes now at Deptford so they interwork with the 24 and 9.
(26 Apr 2024, 4:04 pm)deanmachine Back when the 88 went to Riverside depot they'd do changeovers at Jarrow bus station, way further than Deptford and Washington were. You can see why they've consolidated their South Tyneside only routes now at Deptford so they interwork with the 24 and 9.
(27 Apr 2024, 10:38 am)RMF1254 Borders Buses in Berwick?
(27 Apr 2024, 10:38 am)RMF1254 Borders Buses in Berwick?
(28 Apr 2024, 2:35 am)Glen1974 When is stagecoach Stockton depot start to repaint E200mmc in new colours I am sorry say before.
(28 Apr 2024, 2:35 am)Glen1974 When is stagecoach Stockton depot start to repaint E200mmc in new colours I am sorry say before.
(28 Apr 2024, 10:47 am)toward6931 as stated last time you asked... nothing is planned for at least 6 months, the current planning assumption is the E200s, then the remaining E400s and finally any remaining E300s are to be done first,And whats the betting he asks again within 6 months
after those pre MMC models have been completed the next currently in line vehicles are the 16-plate E400 MMCs from slatyford and walkergate, then the 66 plate E200 MMCs from slatyford, and after those either your Stockton E200s MMCs or the remaining walkergate E400 MMCs. if there is any other news it will be posted
(28 Apr 2024, 10:47 am)toward6931 as stated last time you asked... nothing is planned for at least 6 months, the current planning assumption is the E200s, then the remaining E400s and finally any remaining E300s are to be done first,And whats the betting he asks again within 6 months
after those pre MMC models have been completed the next currently in line vehicles are the 16-plate E400 MMCs from slatyford and walkergate, then the 66 plate E200 MMCs from slatyford, and after those either your Stockton E200s MMCs or the remaining walkergate E400 MMCs. if there is any other news it will be posted
