(27 Feb 2014, 4:15 pm)Michael wrote Same, Wonder if any of them will move on to other services on Sundays.
(27 Feb 2014, 4:20 pm)Kuyoyo wrote I wouldn't be surprised - just look at depots such as Walkergate (all Sunday runs are E400s, Slatyford do run 10/11 and 30/31 fully E400s on Sundays) and Stockton (majority of Sunday services are E300 worked, apart from 12/610/611 and that's only due to the fact there isn't enough to cover the main Sunday Daytime PVR).
(27 Feb 2014, 4:36 pm)Michael wrote Really i'm sure all of Sunderland's Sunday fleet can be Enviro and Gas from this Sunday as theirs enough... along with spares...
Sunderland's PVR is a round 33 for a Sunday?
Finally the fleet list can be updated to show them in service..
(27 Feb 2014, 4:39 pm)Dan wrote Around 26 I think. Been a while since I've discussed it with anyone though, so not a number that I know off the top of my head.
All fleet lists will be updated tonight.
(27 Feb 2014, 7:52 am)dans_bus_photos wrote 28001-28017 have entered service this morning. There are now several MANs parked at the back of the depot presumably withdrawn- 22172,22214,22215,22453,22495,22727,22728,22729,22732,22734,22735
(27 Feb 2014, 4:20 pm)Dan wrote Had wondered that myself, and I've asked around and nobody I know has known either.
Remember, evenings throw up the opportunity for them to appear on 3s too.
(27 Feb 2014, 7:02 pm)Michael wrote Unless they use the Gas buses on the 3 on a evening to
(27 Feb 2014, 7:09 pm)Dan wrote The evening allocation for 3s is the same as the daytime allocation. No gas buses out on 3s!
Surprised mind. Combined with the knowledge of a friend of mine always doing 20s and occasionally being on 3s on the nights (hence the assumption 3s ran off 20s), I'd have thought it would be cheaper to operate a gas bus than an ALX300.
(27 Feb 2014, 7:09 pm)Dan wrote The evening allocation for 3s is the same as the daytime allocation. No gas buses out on 3s!
Surprised mind. Combined with the knowledge of a friend of mine always doing 20s and occasionally being on 3s on the nights (hence the assumption 3s ran off 20s), I'd have thought it would be cheaper to operate a gas bus than an ALX300.
(27 Feb 2014, 7:45 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Well that's got to the biggest cock up ever! New Eco buses not used on the evening services? So new buses are sitting spare post 6pm?! What a waste!
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(27 Feb 2014, 7:50 pm)Dan wrote Usually changes around the first week of April, doesn't it?
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(27 Feb 2014, 7:50 pm)Dan wrote Usually changes around the first week of April, doesn't it?
(27 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)tyresmoke wrote Won't be a set date but any service changes will affect drivers duties and therefore require changes to the rotas. Sunderland won't have any differences in school holidays though, unlike Stockton or Walkergate. It remains to be seen when they'll next change them, it'll be an internal thing so I assume we'll never find out, apart from when some interworkings change.
(27 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)dans_bus_photos wrote There should be atleast 1 gas bus out, as im sure the evening PVR of 4 is covered by 3 vehicles off the 3s and 1 off the 20s
(27 Feb 2014, 7:55 pm)tyresmoke wrote Won't be a set date but any service changes will affect drivers duties and therefore require changes to the rotas. Sunderland won't have any differences in school holidays though, unlike Stockton or Walkergate. It remains to be seen when they'll next change them, it'll be an internal thing so I assume we'll never find out, apart from when some interworkings change.
(27 Feb 2014, 8:02 pm)Michael wrote Last time we had any changes in timings was when the 3,4,16 and 20 went every 20 mins on a Sunday.
The 8 and 20 just changed their route in to the City Centre due to roadworks on St Mary's.
Can't see any massive changes in Sunderland soon.
Can't they not just put the gas buses on, not like the new buses have changed any of the route and timings?
(27 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm)Dan wrote That's the problem - if you refer to the timings I gave above, all evening 20s run off daytime 3s which are allocated ALX300s for the time being.
If what I've said above is correct regarding annual service changes being reviewed ready for changes in April, I'm not sure if it would be worth changing the evening timetable or not so that it could work the other way round, given that the month after the evening allocation will naturally be the same as the daytime allocation on 3s/20s.
(27 Feb 2014, 8:15 pm)Michael wrote Could do 1 run and when they get to the town they could then change to gas buses?
Expecting the next 23 to arrive and be in service within a week or so lets say 5 arrive and they would be out within the week , can see the gas tank being extended ready for them arriving.
(27 Feb 2014, 8:20 pm)Dan wrote The problem then would be - who drives the buses from the Wheatsheaf to John Street or Fawcett Street? With Go North East, they can leave buses in Park Lane for an hour or so if they're interworking services that way on evenings. Driver just goes and sits in the officey bit I think? Stagecoach can't just leave their buses on John St/Fawcett St as all stops are used.
Got three months until the first buses in the next batch of 23 are due to arrive... Plenty of time. :p
(27 Feb 2014, 8:23 pm)Michael wrote If its Sunderland council who are building it, it wont get done by May.. haha
One of the 16's towards red house north has a "i" near the timing - 2240i - looks like it has a 17 min layover at Park lane.
They could park up in Park Lane?
(27 Feb 2014, 8:26 pm)Dan wrote Hadn't actually noticed that before, and I've never seen it there when I've been in Park Lane at that time before...
Will have to have a look one night! I suppose they could if they do already.