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Dan

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13 Jul 2014, 8:54 pm #601
(13 Jul 2014, 8:47 pm)Kuyoyo I believe 4001/4002 are 2 of the examples not getting refurbished - 4001 due to its historical significance.

Pfft... save a bit of cash more like!
Surely they could be refurbished and then restored into the present livery again...?

What's that you say..? Pessimistic? Of course not! Angel
Dan
13 Jul 2014, 8:54 pm #601

(13 Jul 2014, 8:47 pm)Kuyoyo I believe 4001/4002 are 2 of the examples not getting refurbished - 4001 due to its historical significance.

Pfft... save a bit of cash more like!
Surely they could be refurbished and then restored into the present livery again...?

What's that you say..? Pessimistic? Of course not! Angel

V514DFT



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13 Jul 2014, 10:34 pm #602
(13 Jul 2014, 8:27 pm)Tom Does anyone know how long until 4001/4002/4027/4036/4045/4055 get refurbished? Those are the ones I want to photo the most.

4001/2 i agree with dan but it wont happen
4027 no one knows
4036 has gone and is currently in doncaster
4045 has just returned to service
4055 no one knows
4083 possibly the 3rd metrocar not going due to having a collision with a bus at kingston park in its early days
Currently off for refurb
4028,4036,4064,4088
V514DFT
13 Jul 2014, 10:34 pm #602

(13 Jul 2014, 8:27 pm)Tom Does anyone know how long until 4001/4002/4027/4036/4045/4055 get refurbished? Those are the ones I want to photo the most.

4001/2 i agree with dan but it wont happen
4027 no one knows
4036 has gone and is currently in doncaster
4045 has just returned to service
4055 no one knows
4083 possibly the 3rd metrocar not going due to having a collision with a bus at kingston park in its early days
Currently off for refurb
4028,4036,4064,4088

S813 FVK



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14 Jul 2014, 3:12 pm #603
(13 Jul 2014, 10:34 pm)V514DFT 4001/2 i agree with dan but it wont happen
4027 no one knows
4036 has gone and is currently in doncaster
4045 has just returned to service
4055 no one knows
4083 possibly the 3rd metrocar not going due to having a collision with a bus at kingston park in its early days
Currently off for refurb
4028,4036,4064,4088

Why would it not go because it was involved in an incident? I dont think that is an excuse not to refurbish a metrocar.
S813 FVK
14 Jul 2014, 3:12 pm #603

(13 Jul 2014, 10:34 pm)V514DFT 4001/2 i agree with dan but it wont happen
4027 no one knows
4036 has gone and is currently in doncaster
4045 has just returned to service
4055 no one knows
4083 possibly the 3rd metrocar not going due to having a collision with a bus at kingston park in its early days
Currently off for refurb
4028,4036,4064,4088

Why would it not go because it was involved in an incident? I dont think that is an excuse not to refurbish a metrocar.

BJ10VUS



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14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm #604
(13 Jul 2014, 8:54 pm)Dan Pfft... save a bit of cash more like!
Surely they could be refurbished and then restored into the present livery again...?

What's that you say..? Pessimistic? Of course not! Angel

They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

Also, with regards the East Coast branded Metrocars. The new announcements don't seem to work when they aren't connected together as a full East Coast branded unit.
Edited 14 Jul 2014, 3:19 pm by BJ10VUS.
BJ10VUS
14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm #604

(13 Jul 2014, 8:54 pm)Dan Pfft... save a bit of cash more like!
Surely they could be refurbished and then restored into the present livery again...?

What's that you say..? Pessimistic? Of course not! Angel

They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

Also, with regards the East Coast branded Metrocars. The new announcements don't seem to work when they aren't connected together as a full East Coast branded unit.

Tom



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14 Jul 2014, 3:21 pm #605
(14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm)BJ10VUS They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

Also, with regards the East Coast branded Metrocars. The new announcements don't seem to work when they aren't connected together as a full East Coast branded unit.

It's only one that has it - 4038/4064 are the Metrocars that are being trailed on the improved PA System. Previously they were together (4038/4064), but recently I've seen the two East Coast ones together.
Tom
14 Jul 2014, 3:21 pm #605

(14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm)BJ10VUS They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

Also, with regards the East Coast branded Metrocars. The new announcements don't seem to work when they aren't connected together as a full East Coast branded unit.

It's only one that has it - 4038/4064 are the Metrocars that are being trailed on the improved PA System. Previously they were together (4038/4064), but recently I've seen the two East Coast ones together.

V514DFT



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14 Jul 2014, 3:55 pm #606
(14 Jul 2014, 3:12 pm)Robert Why would it not go because it was involved in an incident? I dont think that is an excuse not to refurbish a metrocar.
Im just going off what other people have said, dont shoot the messenger,but it wasnt like it was a minor incident
V514DFT
14 Jul 2014, 3:55 pm #606

(14 Jul 2014, 3:12 pm)Robert Why would it not go because it was involved in an incident? I dont think that is an excuse not to refurbish a metrocar.
Im just going off what other people have said, dont shoot the messenger,but it wasnt like it was a minor incident

Dan

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14 Jul 2014, 3:56 pm #607
(14 Jul 2014, 3:55 pm)V514DFT Im just going off what other people have said, dont shoot the messenger,but it wasnt like it was a minor incident
As long as it is still around and in service today, can't see why it wouldn't get refurbished.

Obviously if it had been permanently withdrawn due to the incident, it would be another matter.
Dan
14 Jul 2014, 3:56 pm #607

(14 Jul 2014, 3:55 pm)V514DFT Im just going off what other people have said, dont shoot the messenger,but it wasnt like it was a minor incident
As long as it is still around and in service today, can't see why it wouldn't get refurbished.

Obviously if it had been permanently withdrawn due to the incident, it would be another matter.

Adrian



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14 Jul 2014, 6:07 pm #608
(14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm)BJ10VUS They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

I can't understand the decision if that's the case. I understand keeping 4001 in Tyne and Wear PTE livery for it's heritage, but it doesn't stop it being refurbished? Just means it gets a different livery than the others surely? With regards to 4002. It's never been back in PTE livery since it was phased out in the early 90s, so I'd say there's nothing stopping it being refurbished.

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Adrian
14 Jul 2014, 6:07 pm #608

(14 Jul 2014, 3:17 pm)BJ10VUS They were going to originally refurbish 4001 and 4002, because I can remember some people were upset about it. I agree it's a cost-saving measure though! Tongue

I can't understand the decision if that's the case. I understand keeping 4001 in Tyne and Wear PTE livery for it's heritage, but it doesn't stop it being refurbished? Just means it gets a different livery than the others surely? With regards to 4002. It's never been back in PTE livery since it was phased out in the early 90s, so I'd say there's nothing stopping it being refurbished.


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15 Jul 2014, 1:32 pm #609
4064 has just come back from Doncaster and 4037 has gone.
4001/2 being the original prototypes were only able to work with each other for a number of years after the final production sets were in service, they were modified later to allow them to work with the rest of the sets. I think the door opening panels are still different to the later sets and there is still a slightly longer delay before the doors open
Coppercap40
15 Jul 2014, 1:32 pm #609

4064 has just come back from Doncaster and 4037 has gone.
4001/2 being the original prototypes were only able to work with each other for a number of years after the final production sets were in service, they were modified later to allow them to work with the rest of the sets. I think the door opening panels are still different to the later sets and there is still a slightly longer delay before the doors open

Dan

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15 Jul 2014, 1:36 pm #610
(15 Jul 2014, 1:32 pm)Coppercap40 4064 has just come back from Doncaster and 4037 has gone.
4001/2 being the original prototypes were only able to work with each other for a number of years after the final production sets were in service, they were modified later to allow them to work with the rest of the sets. I think the door opening panels are still different to the later sets and there is still a slightly longer delay before the doors open
Regarding the doors, that's definitely correct. I'm not Metro-savvy enough to know about the rest though.

The doors are absolutely horrid. Main reason why I want to see them refurbished.
Dan
15 Jul 2014, 1:36 pm #610

(15 Jul 2014, 1:32 pm)Coppercap40 4064 has just come back from Doncaster and 4037 has gone.
4001/2 being the original prototypes were only able to work with each other for a number of years after the final production sets were in service, they were modified later to allow them to work with the rest of the sets. I think the door opening panels are still different to the later sets and there is still a slightly longer delay before the doors open
Regarding the doors, that's definitely correct. I'm not Metro-savvy enough to know about the rest though.

The doors are absolutely horrid. Main reason why I want to see them refurbished.

V514DFT



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16 Jul 2014, 6:49 pm #611
No,i totally agree with what most of you are saying,over 4 years its gone from being all 90 to 88,then dropped again to 86,i still reckon the other two unrefurbed ones will become parts donors,and it would be a terrible shame if 4001/2 just ended up gathering dust somewhere yes they are prototypes but doesnt been they couldnt give it an overhaul or even some attention,these 2 cars are 40 year old so surely they must have some body problems going on,also 4088 went recently too
Edited 16 Jul 2014, 6:51 pm by V514DFT.
V514DFT
16 Jul 2014, 6:49 pm #611

No,i totally agree with what most of you are saying,over 4 years its gone from being all 90 to 88,then dropped again to 86,i still reckon the other two unrefurbed ones will become parts donors,and it would be a terrible shame if 4001/2 just ended up gathering dust somewhere yes they are prototypes but doesnt been they couldnt give it an overhaul or even some attention,these 2 cars are 40 year old so surely they must have some body problems going on,also 4088 went recently too

Bus_User



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18 Jul 2014, 10:51 pm #612
(13 Jul 2014, 8:47 pm)Kuyoyo I believe 4001/4002 are 2 of the examples not getting refurbished - 4001 due to its historical significance.

Incorrect, the prototypes and two other units are not being refurbished due to the corrosion on the units being worse than expected thus the metrocar refurb budget has went way over. Of course, if Nexus want more money from the government then they have to prove they are using it wisely and not going over their targets hence for this reason, 4 units are not being refurbished and the station "refurbishments" are scaled back also as that is also over budget.
Bus_User
18 Jul 2014, 10:51 pm #612

(13 Jul 2014, 8:47 pm)Kuyoyo I believe 4001/4002 are 2 of the examples not getting refurbished - 4001 due to its historical significance.

Incorrect, the prototypes and two other units are not being refurbished due to the corrosion on the units being worse than expected thus the metrocar refurb budget has went way over. Of course, if Nexus want more money from the government then they have to prove they are using it wisely and not going over their targets hence for this reason, 4 units are not being refurbished and the station "refurbishments" are scaled back also as that is also over budget.

Dan

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19 Jul 2014, 6:49 am #613
(18 Jul 2014, 10:51 pm)Bus_User Incorrect, the prototypes and two other units are not being refurbished due to the corrosion on the units being worse than expected thus the metrocar refurb budget has went way over. Of course, if Nexus want more money from the government then they have to prove they are using it wisely and not going over their targets hence for this reason, 4 units are not being refurbished and the station "refurbishments" are scaled back also as that is also over budget.
Interesting.

Will these Metrocars remain in service then? I don't know how many spare Metrocars they actually have.
Dan
19 Jul 2014, 6:49 am #613

(18 Jul 2014, 10:51 pm)Bus_User Incorrect, the prototypes and two other units are not being refurbished due to the corrosion on the units being worse than expected thus the metrocar refurb budget has went way over. Of course, if Nexus want more money from the government then they have to prove they are using it wisely and not going over their targets hence for this reason, 4 units are not being refurbished and the station "refurbishments" are scaled back also as that is also over budget.
Interesting.

Will these Metrocars remain in service then? I don't know how many spare Metrocars they actually have.

Dan

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22 Jul 2014, 2:59 pm #614
4074 having some issues with the first right hand side door on the 'A' side.
Dan
22 Jul 2014, 2:59 pm #614

4074 having some issues with the first right hand side door on the 'A' side.

Dan

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22 Jul 2014, 4:59 pm #615
Feels like I'm back in London... A train a minute: three Pelaw shorts, South Shields, South Hylton, South Shields.

Shame it's as a result of late running.
Dan
22 Jul 2014, 4:59 pm #615

Feels like I'm back in London... A train a minute: three Pelaw shorts, South Shields, South Hylton, South Shields.

Shame it's as a result of late running.

Andreos1



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24 Jul 2014, 8:20 am #616
Having only accepted POP cards, metro tickets or left open for a period of time, barriers at Central Station are now accepting the Network Ticketing tickets.

Quite a queue there this morning.
Edited 24 Jul 2014, 8:23 am by Andreos1.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
24 Jul 2014, 8:20 am #616

Having only accepted POP cards, metro tickets or left open for a period of time, barriers at Central Station are now accepting the Network Ticketing tickets.

Quite a queue there this morning.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

V514DFT



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24 Jul 2014, 10:10 pm #617
seperate note but does anyone remember this
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V514DFT
24 Jul 2014, 10:10 pm #617

seperate note but does anyone remember this

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idiot



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25 Jul 2014, 8:18 am #618
How does they work? Magnetic stripe or have I missed them going on to the POP card?
idiot
25 Jul 2014, 8:18 am #618

How does they work? Magnetic stripe or have I missed them going on to the POP card?

Dan

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31 Jul 2014, 10:43 am #619
Emergency overhead line maintenance work means that no trains are running from Kingston Park to Airport.

Also, looks like Nexus has decided to disable all U16 POP cards expiring today early - I can't buy a ticket with it, yet I should be able to until 23:59 tonight, surely?
Dan
31 Jul 2014, 10:43 am #619

Emergency overhead line maintenance work means that no trains are running from Kingston Park to Airport.

Also, looks like Nexus has decided to disable all U16 POP cards expiring today early - I can't buy a ticket with it, yet I should be able to until 23:59 tonight, surely?

Malarkey



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31 Jul 2014, 11:21 am #620
Metro Minutes are amazing at Heworth

The Coast - 8 Mins
Airport - 11 Mins skips 3 Minutes so both are due in at same time
Malarkey
31 Jul 2014, 11:21 am #620

Metro Minutes are amazing at Heworth

The Coast - 8 Mins
Airport - 11 Mins skips 3 Minutes so both are due in at same time

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