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Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2014

 
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3560
09 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm
(09 Aug 2014, 1:38 pm)Dan It's undergoing 'engine repairs' by DiagTest...
https://flic.kr/p/ogJm4q

Lesson one: Don't buy buses with Cummins Engines! That's the prescise reason why GNE changed to Volvo after the trouble with the Lolynes and Presidents!

Lesson two: Buy buses with big engines! GNE didn't buy double decks between 2006 and 2011 until a manufacturer released a proven, reliable, big and powerful engine capable of handling most routes after the problems with the B7TL's from both X10 and 724 batches.
L469 YVK
09 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm #261

(09 Aug 2014, 1:38 pm)Dan It's undergoing 'engine repairs' by DiagTest...
https://flic.kr/p/ogJm4q

Lesson one: Don't buy buses with Cummins Engines! That's the prescise reason why GNE changed to Volvo after the trouble with the Lolynes and Presidents!

Lesson two: Buy buses with big engines! GNE didn't buy double decks between 2006 and 2011 until a manufacturer released a proven, reliable, big and powerful engine capable of handling most routes after the problems with the B7TL's from both X10 and 724 batches.

09 Aug 2014, 5:54 pm
(09 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm)DaveyBowyer Lesson two: Buy buses with big engines! GNE didn't buy double decks between 2006 and 2011 until a manufacturer released a proven, reliable, big and powerful engine capable of handling most routes after the problems with the B7TL's from both X10 and 724 batches.

Are you sure that's the real reason? May have not bought deckers, but they certainly invested in other areas during this time - Citaros, Omnis and Versas for example.

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09 Aug 2014, 5:54 pm #262

(09 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm)DaveyBowyer Lesson two: Buy buses with big engines! GNE didn't buy double decks between 2006 and 2011 until a manufacturer released a proven, reliable, big and powerful engine capable of handling most routes after the problems with the B7TL's from both X10 and 724 batches.

Are you sure that's the real reason? May have not bought deckers, but they certainly invested in other areas during this time - Citaros, Omnis and Versas for example.


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09 Aug 2014, 5:57 pm
(09 Aug 2014, 5:54 pm)aureolin Are you sure that's the real reason? May have not bought deckers, but they certainly invested in other areas during this time - Citaros, Omnis and Versas for example.

After all, the Volvo B9TL was available before Go North East purchased it in 2011 (albeit maybe not with the Gemini 2 bodywork)...
Dan
09 Aug 2014, 5:57 pm #263

(09 Aug 2014, 5:54 pm)aureolin Are you sure that's the real reason? May have not bought deckers, but they certainly invested in other areas during this time - Citaros, Omnis and Versas for example.

After all, the Volvo B9TL was available before Go North East purchased it in 2011 (albeit maybe not with the Gemini 2 bodywork)...

09 Aug 2014, 6:02 pm
(09 Aug 2014, 5:57 pm)Dan After all, the Volvo B9TL was available before Go North East purchased it in 2011 (albeit maybe not with the Gemini 2 bodywork)...

Yup, way before! As much as DB would like it to be true, it was probably just down different circumstances at the time. The B7TL in original Gemini bodywork would have also been more than suitable for most services, but if they forked out for a load of them, we would have more than likely not seen the investment in Citaros during the same period.

Shame we can't have a bottomless pit of money. Sad

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Adrian
09 Aug 2014, 6:02 pm #264

(09 Aug 2014, 5:57 pm)Dan After all, the Volvo B9TL was available before Go North East purchased it in 2011 (albeit maybe not with the Gemini 2 bodywork)...

Yup, way before! As much as DB would like it to be true, it was probably just down different circumstances at the time. The B7TL in original Gemini bodywork would have also been more than suitable for most services, but if they forked out for a load of them, we would have more than likely not seen the investment in Citaros during the same period.

Shame we can't have a bottomless pit of money. Sad


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10978
09 Aug 2014, 7:06 pm
ARRIVA SERVICES 4 and X4 will operate later into the evening from Saturday 9 until Monday 11 August 2014 whilst the Whitby Regatta takes place. Extra service 4 journeys will leave Whitby at 2040, 2140 and 2240, and continue as service X4 from Loftus at 2115, 2215 and 2315 to terminate at Redcar Clock at 2150, 2250 and 2350 respectively.
Jimmi
09 Aug 2014, 7:06 pm #265

ARRIVA SERVICES 4 and X4 will operate later into the evening from Saturday 9 until Monday 11 August 2014 whilst the Whitby Regatta takes place. Extra service 4 journeys will leave Whitby at 2040, 2140 and 2240, and continue as service X4 from Loftus at 2115, 2215 and 2315 to terminate at Redcar Clock at 2150, 2250 and 2350 respectively.

5325
09 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm
(09 Aug 2014, 7:06 pm)Jimmi ARRIVA SERVICES 4 and X4 will operate later into the evening from Saturday 9 until Monday 11 August 2014 whilst the Whitby Regatta takes place. Extra service 4 journeys will leave Whitby at 2040, 2140 and 2240, and continue as service X4 from Loftus at 2115, 2215 and 2315 to terminate at Redcar Clock at 2150, 2250 and 2350 respectively.

Also extra X93s to Scarborough and town services 95/96 will run all night too. P&R gets extended by around an hour I think it is. Was asked to help out but my early shift on Monday put paid to that Sad

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tyresmoke
09 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm #266

(09 Aug 2014, 7:06 pm)Jimmi ARRIVA SERVICES 4 and X4 will operate later into the evening from Saturday 9 until Monday 11 August 2014 whilst the Whitby Regatta takes place. Extra service 4 journeys will leave Whitby at 2040, 2140 and 2240, and continue as service X4 from Loftus at 2115, 2215 and 2315 to terminate at Redcar Clock at 2150, 2250 and 2350 respectively.

Also extra X93s to Scarborough and town services 95/96 will run all night too. P&R gets extended by around an hour I think it is. Was asked to help out but my early shift on Monday put paid to that Sad


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10 Aug 2014, 6:18 am
(09 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)tyresmoke Also extra X93s to Scarborough and town services 95/96 will run all night too. P&R gets extended by around an hour I think it is. Was asked to help out but my early shift on Monday put paid to that Sad
Did they manage to get the second (or third - judging by comments elsewhere on the forum) bus out for the Park and Ride by the end of the day...?
Dan
10 Aug 2014, 6:18 am #267

(09 Aug 2014, 8:46 pm)tyresmoke Also extra X93s to Scarborough and town services 95/96 will run all night too. P&R gets extended by around an hour I think it is. Was asked to help out but my early shift on Monday put paid to that Sad
Did they manage to get the second (or third - judging by comments elsewhere on the forum) bus out for the Park and Ride by the end of the day...?

3560
10 Aug 2014, 10:06 am
(09 Aug 2014, 6:02 pm)aureolin Yup, way before! As much as DB would like it to be true, it was probably just down different circumstances at the time. The B7TL in original Gemini bodywork would have also been more than suitable for most services, but if they forked out for a load of them, we would have more than likely not seen the investment in Citaros during the same period.

Shame we can't have a bottomless pit of money. Sad

Ok, I'll backtrack on my second point as back then, GNE also favoured single deckers as opposed to double deckers to create growth until services are bursting to the point where double deckers are needed whether new (TEN, Red Arrows) or swapped around then later new (Coaster to Angel, Myllenyums, Presidents then B5LH'S). But my first point still stands though.
L469 YVK
10 Aug 2014, 10:06 am #268

(09 Aug 2014, 6:02 pm)aureolin Yup, way before! As much as DB would like it to be true, it was probably just down different circumstances at the time. The B7TL in original Gemini bodywork would have also been more than suitable for most services, but if they forked out for a load of them, we would have more than likely not seen the investment in Citaros during the same period.

Shame we can't have a bottomless pit of money. Sad

Ok, I'll backtrack on my second point as back then, GNE also favoured single deckers as opposed to double deckers to create growth until services are bursting to the point where double deckers are needed whether new (TEN, Red Arrows) or swapped around then later new (Coaster to Angel, Myllenyums, Presidents then B5LH'S). But my first point still stands though.

137
10 Aug 2014, 10:14 am
Does anyone know if anymore volvo b10bles have moved to stockton yet or is it still v508 dft
Philly rf
10 Aug 2014, 10:14 am #269

Does anyone know if anymore volvo b10bles have moved to stockton yet or is it still v508 dft

10978
10 Aug 2014, 10:24 am
Service Update. Darlington services 1B, 2, 12, 19 and 76A are diverted until 1230 hours due to the Darlington 10K Run.
Services 1B and 2 are unable to serve Woodland Road outbound.
Service 12 is unable to serve Stand N in Houndgate.
Service 19 is unable to serve Woodland or Hollyhurst Roads.
Service 76A is unable to serve Coniscliffe Road in both directions and Carmel Road North inbound.
Jimmi
10 Aug 2014, 10:24 am #270

Service Update. Darlington services 1B, 2, 12, 19 and 76A are diverted until 1230 hours due to the Darlington 10K Run.
Services 1B and 2 are unable to serve Woodland Road outbound.
Service 12 is unable to serve Stand N in Houndgate.
Service 19 is unable to serve Woodland or Hollyhurst Roads.
Service 76A is unable to serve Coniscliffe Road in both directions and Carmel Road North inbound.

5325
10 Aug 2014, 10:59 am
(10 Aug 2014, 10:14 am)Philly rf Does anyone know if anymore volvo b10bles have moved to stockton yet or is it still v508 dft

None as yet, just 4508. Sure it will get reported on here as and when any more move down.

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tyresmoke
10 Aug 2014, 10:59 am #271

(10 Aug 2014, 10:14 am)Philly rf Does anyone know if anymore volvo b10bles have moved to stockton yet or is it still v508 dft

None as yet, just 4508. Sure it will get reported on here as and when any more move down.


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3560
10 Aug 2014, 1:38 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 10:59 am)tyresmoke None as yet, just 4508. Sure it will get reported on here as and when any more move down.

How comes the Wright Endurances aren't DDA compliant?
L469 YVK
10 Aug 2014, 1:38 pm #272

(10 Aug 2014, 10:59 am)tyresmoke None as yet, just 4508. Sure it will get reported on here as and when any more move down.

How comes the Wright Endurances aren't DDA compliant?

5325
10 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm
Couple of updates that may have been missed recently...

7612, 7613 and 7614 are all back from Max refurbishment and are back in service at Blyth.
7513 and 7616 transferred to Blackburn this week for refurbishment.
7615 is still down there at present.
7466 has transferred from Ashington to Blyth as planned.

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tyresmoke
10 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm #273

Couple of updates that may have been missed recently...

7612, 7613 and 7614 are all back from Max refurbishment and are back in service at Blyth.
7513 and 7616 transferred to Blackburn this week for refurbishment.
7615 is still down there at present.
7466 has transferred from Ashington to Blyth as planned.


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10 Aug 2014, 5:00 pm
Has 7466 moved on from Blyth to Jesmond or been on loan as saw it on the 1650 X11 to Blyth earlier this week plus another sighting of it on what I think was the 43 ?
Coppercap40
10 Aug 2014, 5:00 pm #274

Has 7466 moved on from Blyth to Jesmond or been on loan as saw it on the 1650 X11 to Blyth earlier this week plus another sighting of it on what I think was the 43 ?

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10 Aug 2014, 5:33 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm)tyresmoke Couple of updates that may have been missed recently...

7612, 7613 and 7614 are all back from Max refurbishment and are back in service at Blyth.
7513 and 7616 transferred to Blackburn this week for refurbishment.
7615 is still down there at present.
7466 has transferred from Ashington to Blyth as planned.

The Fleet Allocation showed 7622 away for MAX refurbishment at the same time as 7614, so I'm guessing that one has also returned?

(10 Aug 2014, 5:00 pm)Coppercap40 Has 7466 moved on from Blyth to Jesmond or been on loan as saw it on the 1650 X11 to Blyth earlier this week plus another sighting of it on what I think was the 43 ?

There's an additional X11 working provided by Jesmond - that would have been it, I think... Though I don't know why it would have been on the 43.
Dan
10 Aug 2014, 5:33 pm #275

(10 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm)tyresmoke Couple of updates that may have been missed recently...

7612, 7613 and 7614 are all back from Max refurbishment and are back in service at Blyth.
7513 and 7616 transferred to Blackburn this week for refurbishment.
7615 is still down there at present.
7466 has transferred from Ashington to Blyth as planned.

The Fleet Allocation showed 7622 away for MAX refurbishment at the same time as 7614, so I'm guessing that one has also returned?

(10 Aug 2014, 5:00 pm)Coppercap40 Has 7466 moved on from Blyth to Jesmond or been on loan as saw it on the 1650 X11 to Blyth earlier this week plus another sighting of it on what I think was the 43 ?

There's an additional X11 working provided by Jesmond - that would have been it, I think... Though I don't know why it would have been on the 43.

5325
10 Aug 2014, 7:49 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 5:33 pm)Dan The Fleet Allocation showed 7622 away for MAX refurbishment at the same time as 7614, so I'm guessing that one has also returned?


There's an additional X11 working provided by Jesmond - that would have been it, I think... Though I don't know why it would have been on the 43.

No 7622 hasn't been to Blackburn yet as far as I know. 7615/16 (and 7513, 4653/9) are the ones down there at present I believe.

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tyresmoke
10 Aug 2014, 7:49 pm #276

(10 Aug 2014, 5:33 pm)Dan The Fleet Allocation showed 7622 away for MAX refurbishment at the same time as 7614, so I'm guessing that one has also returned?


There's an additional X11 working provided by Jesmond - that would have been it, I think... Though I don't know why it would have been on the 43.

No 7622 hasn't been to Blackburn yet as far as I know. 7615/16 (and 7513, 4653/9) are the ones down there at present I believe.


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10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 7:49 pm)tyresmoke No 7622 hasn't been to Blackburn yet as far as I know. 7615/16 (and 7513, 4653/9) are the ones down there at present I believe.
They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/
mb134
10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm #277

(10 Aug 2014, 7:49 pm)tyresmoke No 7622 hasn't been to Blackburn yet as far as I know. 7615/16 (and 7513, 4653/9) are the ones down there at present I believe.
They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/

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10 Aug 2014, 8:04 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/

Typos are plentiful on that page!
Dan
10 Aug 2014, 8:04 pm #278

(10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/

Typos are plentiful on that page!

4169
10 Aug 2014, 8:11 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 8:04 pm)Dan Typos are plentiful on that page!
Think they've overdone the whole "MAX" thing, is it really necessary to have it in capitals everytime the word maximum is used? Understand why they've done it, but it looks a bit silly
mb134
10 Aug 2014, 8:11 pm #279

(10 Aug 2014, 8:04 pm)Dan Typos are plentiful on that page!
Think they've overdone the whole "MAX" thing, is it really necessary to have it in capitals everytime the word maximum is used? Understand why they've done it, but it looks a bit silly

5325
10 Aug 2014, 8:42 pm
(10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/

They were right about it being ambitious! I believe the launch for the X10/X11 is planned for the end of this month now...
Even Yorkshire haven't finished their E400s for the 268 yet!

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10 Aug 2014, 8:42 pm #280

(10 Aug 2014, 7:56 pm)mb134 They look like they are quite a way behind on refurbishments, according to the Arriva website X10/11 and X15 should have gone MAX in June... http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/mobile/about-...om-arriva/

They were right about it being ambitious! I believe the launch for the X10/X11 is planned for the end of this month now...
Even Yorkshire haven't finished their E400s for the 268 yet!


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