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L469 YVK   12 Aug 2014, 9:57 pm
And I know Sapphire is popular but:

- None or very few connections in Newcastle around other parts of the North East by Arriva

- No buses to the Mertocentre

- No radio control installed

- No local customer services

- Only fast bus being the X20 only operating every hour with no evening and Sunday service

- Limited service in North Seaton otherwise requiring a change in Ashington

- Longer journey times on X21 after Sept 2012 changes
Michael   12 Aug 2014, 9:59 pm
(12 Aug 2014, 9:57 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote And I know Sapphire is popular but:

- None or very few connections in Newcastle around other parts of the North East by Arriva

- No buses to the Mertocentre

- No radio control installed

- No local customer services

- Only fast bus being the X20 only operating every hour with no evening and Sunday service

- Limited service in North Seaton otherwise requiring a change in Ashington

- Longer journey times on X21 after Sept 2012 changes

Shame they only 2 routes in Sunderland... the area which it started in...Sad

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
mb134   12 Aug 2014, 10:13 pm
(12 Aug 2014, 9:57 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote And I know Sapphire is popular but:

- None or very few connections in Newcastle around other parts of the North East by Arriva
I think, however, most people travelling from SE Northumberland will only want to go to Newcastle, if not then there is the X2 to Durham and the X1 to Middlesbrough from there
L469 YVK   13 Aug 2014, 6:05 am
(12 Aug 2014, 10:13 pm)mb134 wrote I think, however, most people travelling from SE Northumberland will only want to go to Newcastle, if not then there is the X2 to Durham and the X1 to Middlesbrough from there

No chance, the TTX is far quicker too!
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Dan   13 Aug 2014, 7:02 am
A quick note to say that the fleet lists are fully up-to-date again.

Coppercap40 alerted me to the fact that the liveries for all of Washington's DAF SB120s were showing as 'Go North East'; in fact, some were branded "Northern" post-repaint. I've corrected these too, to reflect reality. I think I was originally a little bit behind so I ended up copying and pasting the same for each vehicle! The vehicles which have been altered as a result are 8247, 8250 and 8251.

MPD 542 is still working for Deptford, so I've noted it as having transferred to Deptford via Peterlee. If it does go back to Peterlee (for whatever reason), I'll update the fleet list again.

If you spot anything else, feel free to drop me a line or two via PM (link in signature below) or e-mail (dan@northeastbuses.co.uk). Smile
Michael   13 Aug 2014, 2:22 pm
The pulse tab on the GNE site has finally gone...

They still have the the 5 down as South tyne..

All the timetables for upcoming changes are now in the new style, making them easier to read.

Timetables for scholars are now on for Buses serving Emmanuel College in Lobley Hill and Buses serving Park View School in Chester-le-Street -

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56759.82 - lobley Hill

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56801.16 - Chester-Le-Street

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Looking at the timetables on the GNE site and look what crops up...

37 times from 1 September 2014 - http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/63870.3 - on the timetable it got

These journeys are provided by Go North East

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
R852 PRG   13 Aug 2014, 2:56 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 2:22 pm)Michael wrote The pulse tab on the GNE site has finally gone...

They still have the the 5 down as South tyne..

All the timetables for upcoming changes are now in the new style, making them easier to read.

Timetables for scholars are now on for Buses serving Emmanuel College in Lobley Hill and Buses serving Park View School in Chester-le-Street -

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56759.82 - lobley Hill

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56801.16 - Chester-Le-Street

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Looking at the timetables on the GNE site and look what crops up...

37 times from 1 September 2014 - http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/63870.3 - on the timetable it got

These journeys are provided by Go North East

I'm glad they've changed the times for the Park View ones - not being picky but when I've looked at the timetables online previously they had the wrong order, but to be honest looking at that I think they've just changed the timetable to display the correct times.
G-CPTN   13 Aug 2014, 3:30 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 3:26 pm)AIG20 wrote Alpha Recovery: Go North East - S816 FVK (3816)
Image owned by Flickr user "Wrexham Transport".
Not a lot recovered from that.
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Malarkey   13 Aug 2014, 4:36 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 3:26 pm)AIG20 wrote Alpha Recovery: Go North East - S816 FVK (3816)
Image owned by Flickr user "Wrexham Transport".

Also note the Arriva Temsa Avenue in that Photo also, Don't think I have even Photographed any of those in the 2 Years I have been taking Photos.
Malarkey   13 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 2:22 pm)Michael wrote The pulse tab on the GNE site has finally gone...

They still have the the 5 down as South tyne..

All the timetables for upcoming changes are now in the new style, making them easier to read.

Timetables for scholars are now on for Buses serving Emmanuel College in Lobley Hill and Buses serving Park View School in Chester-le-Street -

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56759.82 - lobley Hill

http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/56801.16 - Chester-Le-Street

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Looking at the timetables on the GNE site and look what crops up...

37 times from 1 September 2014 - http://www.simplygo.com/download/publication/63870.3 - on the timetable it got

These journeys are provided by Go North East

Must be taking over the Peak Time Journeys from Compass, Surprised GCT didn't take them over.
tyresmoke   13 Aug 2014, 4:46 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 4:36 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Also note the Arriva Temsa Avenue in that Photo also, Don't think I have even Photographed any of those in the 2 Years I have been taking Photos.

4714 which toasted itself in Skinningrove.

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Tom   13 Aug 2014, 5:03 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Must be taking over the Peak Time Journeys from Compass, Surprised GCT didn't take them over.

They are commerical.
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Diamond One   13 Aug 2014, 5:04 pm
The Mercedes Citaro demonstrator BP14 FJZ has been transferred from Riverside to Stanley for use on Lime services. MPD 542: NA52 AXG has been returned to Peterlee from Percy Main. Volvo Olympian 3816: S816 FVK has been sold to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade.
Malarkey   13 Aug 2014, 5:05 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:04 pm)Racer_Experience wrote The Mercedes Citaro demonstrator BP14 FJZ has been transferred from Riverside to Stanley for use on Lime services. MPD 542: NA52 AXG has been returned to Peterlee from Percy Main. Volvo Olympian 3816: S816 FVK has been sold to Alpha Recovery, Weetslade.

Bazza your 2 Days 2 Late
Dan   13 Aug 2014, 5:09 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:05 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Bazza your 2 Days 2 Late
It's because the bit about the Merc was just added this morning.
Malarkey   13 Aug 2014, 5:13 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:09 pm)Dan wrote It's because the bit about the Merc was just added this morning.

GNE a bit slow on the News this week then, and Sorry Bazza
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Dan   13 Aug 2014, 5:15 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote GNE a bit slow on the News this week then, and Sorry Bazza
It started off with the bit about 3816 and I think Michael posted it, then when they added the bit about 542, Bazza posted it again. Likewise today with the Merc.
Michael   13 Aug 2014, 5:24 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:03 pm)Tom wrote They are commerical.

If they can take some of the runs on commercially then why can't they just take the whole route along with the 73

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S813 FVK   13 Aug 2014, 5:26 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote GNE a bit slow on the News this week then, and Sorry Bazza

Still helps if people read the thread before duplicating info. I have done it and felt quite stupid afterwards.
Dan   13 Aug 2014, 5:28 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:03 pm)Tom wrote They are commerical.

Are they? Huh
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Tom   13 Aug 2014, 5:42 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:28 pm)Dan wrote Are they? Huh

Well there has been no cancellation of Compass'?
Dan   13 Aug 2014, 5:47 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:42 pm)Tom wrote Well there has been no cancellation of Compass'?

..yet?

Why would Go North East operate their own runs of service 37 at the exact same time as Compass'? Surely, if they were commercial, Go North East would have opted for a different route number, perhaps slightly different route, and most importantly, had them a few minutes ahead of the secured journeys?
Michael   13 Aug 2014, 6:01 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:47 pm)Dan wrote ..yet?

Why would Go North East operate their own runs of service 37 at the exact same time as Compass'? Surely, if they were commercial, Go North East would have opted for a different route number, perhaps slightly different route, and most importantly, had them a few minutes ahead of the secured journeys?

Really what is the point in giving the contracts out and then changing them weeks later... knew this would happen when it was first posted that GCT was taking over!

Would nexus change contracts monthly if they took over the services...

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Tom   13 Aug 2014, 6:01 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:47 pm)Dan wrote ..yet?

Why would Go North East operate their own runs of service 37 at the exact same time as Compass'? Surely, if they were commercial, Go North East would have opted for a different route number, perhaps slightly different route, and most importantly, had them a few minutes ahead of the secured journeys?

I hope they will win back the 37/73. GCT provide a shocking service in my opinion, I saw it last week in Concord, the rear blind wasn't working, the drivers weren't wearing uniform and it in the via points it said Concord even though it terminated there!

Also, it is the most stupidly designed timetable ever. The 37 only goes to Coach Road in one direction, hence they can't do a return journey.
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Kuyoyo   13 Aug 2014, 6:03 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 5:42 pm)Tom wrote Well there has been no cancellation of Compass'?

They was

(23 Jul 2014, 3:24 pm)Michael wrote We already know about the 37 but i'll still post it.

PB1074031/5 - COMPASS COMMUNITY TRANSPORT LTD T/A COMPASS COMMUNITY TRANSPORT, UNITS 11 - 12, SANDMERE ROAD, LEECHMERE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, SUNDERLAND, SR2 9TP
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Washington Galleries and Doxford Park Shops given service number 37 effective from 30-Aug-2014.
Dan   13 Aug 2014, 6:06 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 6:01 pm)Michael wrote Really what is the point in giving the contracts out and then changing them weeks later... knew this would happen when it was first posted that GCT was taking over!

Would nexus change contracts monthly if they took over the services...

The contract for CCT's peak time extra runs on service 37 (which then run onto service 8X in South Hylton) was up for renewal on 25/07/2015.

I'd imagine that Nexus could terminate the contract early, if they were not satisfied with the level of service provided by the company, after x amount of warnings? Although we've recently discovered that the contract actually stipulates a low-floor Euro 5 16-seater vehicle, and they do seem to be providing that now, they didn't in the past - it was pretty much always an Iveco van.

As for the last bit, I'd imagine the same would apply then too, should Quality Contracts come into force? If an operator received umpteen amounts of warnings, and they were still repeatedly committing the same offences, Nexus would have the right to remove the contract from said operator? Perhaps at a price - I'm not sure...

(13 Aug 2014, 6:01 pm)Tom wrote I hope they will win back the 37/73. GCT provide a shocking service in my opinion, I saw it last week in Concord, the rear blind wasn't working, the drivers weren't wearing uniform and it in the via points it said Concord even though it terminated there!

Also, it is the most stupidly designed timetable ever. The 37 only goes to Coach Road in one direction, hence they can't do a return journey.

Greg in Weardale will disagree. Tongue
Kuyoyo   13 Aug 2014, 6:08 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 6:01 pm)Tom wrote I hope they will win back the 37/73. GCT provide a shocking service in my opinion, I saw it last week in Concord, the rear blind wasn't working, the drivers weren't wearing uniform and it in the via points it said Concord even though it terminated there!

Also, it is the most stupidly designed timetable ever. The 37 only goes to Coach Road in one direction, hence they can't do a return journey.

If you look at the timetable - 73 interworks with the 37 at Coach Road towards Sunderland therefore the 37/73 provides a round trip journey between Concord and Coach Road Estate once an hour - same as it was when it was the 73 serving the Estate (73 only served Coach Road towards Washington).
Dan   13 Aug 2014, 6:11 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 6:08 pm)Kuyoyo wrote If you look at the timetable - 73 interworks with the 37 at Coach Road towards Sunderland therefore the 37/73 provides a round trip journey between Concord and Coach Road Estate once an hour - same as it was when it was the 73 serving the Estate (73 only served Coach Road towards Washington).

My sister used to live around that way, and I seem to recall Coach Road Estate being very much like a one-way road system (for a bus, at least).

So the fact it only 'served Coach Road towards Washington' will be down to the circular-style nature of the service, I think..?
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Malarkey   13 Aug 2014, 6:25 pm
(13 Aug 2014, 6:11 pm)Dan wrote My sister used to live around that way, and I seem to recall Coach Road Estate being very much like a one-way road system (for a bus, at least).

So the fact it only 'served Coach Road towards Washington' will be down to the circular-style nature of the service, I think..?

More like lack of Demand from Passengers, A Bus could easily go around Coach Road in Both Directions, but there is no need to do that with the Estate being Circular, as there would be no benefit from it.

As I have said in the Past, Coach Road has around 12 Bus Stops situated on the Perimeter of the Estate, each within 2 Minutes Walk of Every Home with Services 4/56 and M2 Providing 14 Buses Per Hour to the Estate, Other than the OAP's I can't see the point in the 37 Serving the Estate, why do you think GNE scrapped the W3 and Replaced it with the M2 a few years ago.
busman101   13 Aug 2014, 8:19 pm
(12 Aug 2014, 9:56 pm)Tom wrote You should try a route from Newcastle to Alnwick, with a outstation at Alnwick.
Then have a MPD or two doing a route from Alnmouth to Bamburgh, and Alnwick to Ashington for connects?

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