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Tom
6138
20 Aug 2014, 3:31 pm
Dan - is the East Durham network the second most profitable minibus route?
Tom
20 Aug 2014, 3:31 pm #461

Dan - is the East Durham network the second most profitable minibus route?

14273
20 Aug 2014, 3:33 pm
(20 Aug 2014, 3:29 pm)Tom It wasn't the M2 being six minutes late that I had the issue with, it's that the M3 didn't show up at all.

Can only mean it was regulated or broken down.
Lost mileage either way!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
20 Aug 2014, 3:33 pm #462

(20 Aug 2014, 3:29 pm)Tom It wasn't the M2 being six minutes late that I had the issue with, it's that the M3 didn't show up at all.

Can only mean it was regulated or broken down.
Lost mileage either way!


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
20 Aug 2014, 3:35 pm
(20 Aug 2014, 3:29 pm)Tom It wasn't the M2 being six minutes late that I had the issue with, it's that the M3 didn't show up at all.

Umpteen amount of reasons it mightn't have shown up if regulated - alternative is that the vehicle broke down... Obviously we don't know what, though! Tongue

(20 Aug 2014, 3:31 pm)Tom Dan - is the East Durham network the second most profitable minibus route?

I have no idea, sorry!
Dan
20 Aug 2014, 3:35 pm #463

(20 Aug 2014, 3:29 pm)Tom It wasn't the M2 being six minutes late that I had the issue with, it's that the M3 didn't show up at all.

Umpteen amount of reasons it mightn't have shown up if regulated - alternative is that the vehicle broke down... Obviously we don't know what, though! Tongue

(20 Aug 2014, 3:31 pm)Tom Dan - is the East Durham network the second most profitable minibus route?

I have no idea, sorry!

19182
20 Aug 2014, 3:44 pm
Dan on the fleet list you have 6116/6117 down at Deptford

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
20 Aug 2014, 3:44 pm #464

Dan on the fleet list you have 6116/6117 down at Deptford


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
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18138
20 Aug 2014, 3:50 pm
(20 Aug 2014, 3:44 pm)Michael Dan on the fleet list you have 6116/6117 down at Deptford

My apologies - I don't any more! Wink
Dan
20 Aug 2014, 3:50 pm #465

(20 Aug 2014, 3:44 pm)Michael Dan on the fleet list you have 6116/6117 down at Deptford

My apologies - I don't any more! Wink

6064
20 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm
(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan Perhaps slightly exaggerated, there, Adam! The only DAF SB120 which regularly receives attention from DiagTest is 8250, which is undergoing repairs after its minor engine bay fire in June of this year.

Maybe just a bit exaggerated, 2 have caught fire so far this year though, so I say there reliability is Arguable, but I genuinely prefer the MPD's which were used previously on the M2/M3, Before being Withdrawn/Cascaded to North Tyne Links Network.


(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan Services M2/M3 and W5/W6 aren't some of Go North East's most profitable routes;

I would agree if we were talking about just the W5/W6, But the M2/M3 is usually quite Busy between Birtley and Concord, not so much between Concord and Heworth due to the more frequent and faster Service 4, but nevertheless the loading are not that bad, obviously profitable enough for a Service Every 15 Minutes.


(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan I'd suggest that you don't believe all you hear. As I said above, the loadings (and thus the profit levels) do not justify brand new vehicles on these services. I have previously suggested that, when the "QuayLink" contract comes up for renewal (2015) and newer stock is either brought in or GNE loses the contract, the Optare Versa vehicles would cascade to services M2/M3 following the trial of midi-sized vehicles (the DAF SB120s) last year. However, we have recently discussed the future of the "QuayLink", and this may mean that things could work out slightly differently...

I haven't heard anything rumored, and if I did I would take it with a pinch of salt, but then again I don't go around pestering the Drivers while they are on Duty, and trying to operate a Service to Schedule, in an attempt to try and find out details on future fleet arrivals in the Fleet, as Anthony often does, as I bump into him on a Regular Basis at The Galleries, and he tells me he heard this and that, here and there etc.

I would like to see the M2/M3 Receive Investment this Year, but I don't Optare Solos would be suitable at all, I would like Citaros K's and who wouldn't, but I don't think the M2/M3 is Sustainable of that sort of Investment which is why I think Versas would be the best option or Enviro 200's, and I just wouldn't go for Wright Steetlites as they've just been Problematic from the get go on the Drifter and Saltwell Park.
Malarkey
20 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm #466

(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan Perhaps slightly exaggerated, there, Adam! The only DAF SB120 which regularly receives attention from DiagTest is 8250, which is undergoing repairs after its minor engine bay fire in June of this year.

Maybe just a bit exaggerated, 2 have caught fire so far this year though, so I say there reliability is Arguable, but I genuinely prefer the MPD's which were used previously on the M2/M3, Before being Withdrawn/Cascaded to North Tyne Links Network.


(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan Services M2/M3 and W5/W6 aren't some of Go North East's most profitable routes;

I would agree if we were talking about just the W5/W6, But the M2/M3 is usually quite Busy between Birtley and Concord, not so much between Concord and Heworth due to the more frequent and faster Service 4, but nevertheless the loading are not that bad, obviously profitable enough for a Service Every 15 Minutes.


(20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm)Dan I'd suggest that you don't believe all you hear. As I said above, the loadings (and thus the profit levels) do not justify brand new vehicles on these services. I have previously suggested that, when the "QuayLink" contract comes up for renewal (2015) and newer stock is either brought in or GNE loses the contract, the Optare Versa vehicles would cascade to services M2/M3 following the trial of midi-sized vehicles (the DAF SB120s) last year. However, we have recently discussed the future of the "QuayLink", and this may mean that things could work out slightly differently...

I haven't heard anything rumored, and if I did I would take it with a pinch of salt, but then again I don't go around pestering the Drivers while they are on Duty, and trying to operate a Service to Schedule, in an attempt to try and find out details on future fleet arrivals in the Fleet, as Anthony often does, as I bump into him on a Regular Basis at The Galleries, and he tells me he heard this and that, here and there etc.

I would like to see the M2/M3 Receive Investment this Year, but I don't Optare Solos would be suitable at all, I would like Citaros K's and who wouldn't, but I don't think the M2/M3 is Sustainable of that sort of Investment which is why I think Versas would be the best option or Enviro 200's, and I just wouldn't go for Wright Steetlites as they've just been Problematic from the get go on the Drifter and Saltwell Park.

3563
20 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm
(20 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I just wouldn't go for Wright Steetlites as they've just been Problematic from the get go on the Drifter and Saltwell Park.

Well that's exactly why I don't like E400's due to Cummins engines being used. The ones lile the L10 what they used in ANE 7370-7377 are good but all modern ones are cheap, turbocharged and nasty rubbish! I know the modern Volvo's aren't perfect (B9 quite good but still) but I wouldn't have a Cummins gift wrapped and I'm pleased that GNE seen sense (with the exception of the Angel) seen sense and put power before economy!
L469 YVK
20 Aug 2014, 4:18 pm #467

(20 Aug 2014, 4:13 pm)NEBCD Malarkey I just wouldn't go for Wright Steetlites as they've just been Problematic from the get go on the Drifter and Saltwell Park.

Well that's exactly why I don't like E400's due to Cummins engines being used. The ones lile the L10 what they used in ANE 7370-7377 are good but all modern ones are cheap, turbocharged and nasty rubbish! I know the modern Volvo's aren't perfect (B9 quite good but still) but I wouldn't have a Cummins gift wrapped and I'm pleased that GNE seen sense (with the exception of the Angel) seen sense and put power before economy!

Dan
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18138
21 Aug 2014, 9:49 am
Scania L94 4972 is now back at Deptford following repaint. Volvo B10BLE 4923 is still at Deptford, though I suspect it will remain on loan for an additional week to cover for 5375 which is at Riverside to test suitability on the X66 route.
Dan
21 Aug 2014, 9:49 am #469

Scania L94 4972 is now back at Deptford following repaint. Volvo B10BLE 4923 is still at Deptford, though I suspect it will remain on loan for an additional week to cover for 5375 which is at Riverside to test suitability on the X66 route.

19182
21 Aug 2014, 9:52 am
(21 Aug 2014, 9:49 am)Dan Scania L94 4972 is now back at Deptford following repaint. Volvo B10BLE 4923 is still at Deptford, though I suspect it will remain on loan for an additional week to cover for 5375 which is at Riverside to test suitability on the X66 route.

They should start getting branded again in the next few days?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
21 Aug 2014, 9:52 am #470

(21 Aug 2014, 9:49 am)Dan Scania L94 4972 is now back at Deptford following repaint. Volvo B10BLE 4923 is still at Deptford, though I suspect it will remain on loan for an additional week to cover for 5375 which is at Riverside to test suitability on the X66 route.

They should start getting branded again in the next few days?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
21 Aug 2014, 9:55 am
(21 Aug 2014, 9:52 am)Michael They should start getting branded again in the next few days?

Hopefully - just depends when the vinyls arrive!
Dan
21 Aug 2014, 9:55 am #471

(21 Aug 2014, 9:52 am)Michael They should start getting branded again in the next few days?

Hopefully - just depends when the vinyls arrive!

21 Aug 2014, 11:39 am
Will it be on the X66 tomorrow?

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Rapidsnap
21 Aug 2014, 11:39 am #472

Will it be on the X66 tomorrow?


Please feel free to visit my Flickr page - https://www.flickr.com/photos/gjm-photogenic/
Who needs heroes anyway? Villians have more fun.

Dan
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18138
21 Aug 2014, 11:44 am
(21 Aug 2014, 11:39 am)GMitchelhill Will it be on the X66 tomorrow?
Yes, and should be for the rest of the week too.
Dan
21 Aug 2014, 11:44 am #473

(21 Aug 2014, 11:39 am)GMitchelhill Will it be on the X66 tomorrow?
Yes, and should be for the rest of the week too.

6064
21 Aug 2014, 4:30 pm
6061 on the 21 at 14:55 in Gateshead, Displaying Blackett Street as it's point of Termination, Both on the Front/Side, only manged side shot has I didn't notice until it was just about to pass me, Is this Normal or has the Driver put up the Incorrect Blind.

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Malarkey
21 Aug 2014, 4:30 pm #474

6061 on the 21 at 14:55 in Gateshead, Displaying Blackett Street as it's point of Termination, Both on the Front/Side, only manged side shot has I didn't notice until it was just about to pass me, Is this Normal or has the Driver put up the Incorrect Blind.

[attachment=5848]

6031
21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm
(21 Aug 2014, 4:30 pm)NEBCD Malarkey 6061 on the 21 at 14:55 in Gateshead, Displaying Blackett Street as it's point of Termination, Both on the Front/Side, only manged side shot has I didn't notice until it was just about to pass me, Is this Normal or has the Driver put up the Incorrect Blind.

No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.
S813 FVK
21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm #475

(21 Aug 2014, 4:30 pm)NEBCD Malarkey 6061 on the 21 at 14:55 in Gateshead, Displaying Blackett Street as it's point of Termination, Both on the Front/Side, only manged side shot has I didn't notice until it was just about to pass me, Is this Normal or has the Driver put up the Incorrect Blind.

No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.

Tom
6138
21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm
(21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm)Robert No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.

One 21 does terminate at Blackett Street on a night.
Tom
21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm #476

(21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm)Robert No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.

One 21 does terminate at Blackett Street on a night.

21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm
(21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm)Robert No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.

I've seen a few 21s in CLS have 'Blackett Street' on the blind, not sure if that could have been due to a diversion or something?
R852 PRG
21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm #477

(21 Aug 2014, 4:40 pm)Robert No 21s terminate at Blackett Street that i know of, nor according to the timetable so i dont know whats happened. Interesting catch thats for sure.

I've seen a few 21s in CLS have 'Blackett Street' on the blind, not sure if that could have been due to a diversion or something?

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
21 Aug 2014, 4:45 pm
(21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm)Tom One 21 does terminate at Blackett Street on a night.
That'll be the one that does the N21 afterwards? Other than that, just a case of the driver using the wrong display.
Dan
21 Aug 2014, 4:45 pm #478

(21 Aug 2014, 4:43 pm)Tom One 21 does terminate at Blackett Street on a night.
That'll be the one that does the N21 afterwards? Other than that, just a case of the driver using the wrong display.

Tom
6138
21 Aug 2014, 4:46 pm
(21 Aug 2014, 4:45 pm)Dan That'll be the one that does the N21 afterwards? Other than that, just a case of the driver using the wrong display.

Yes that's the one.
Tom
21 Aug 2014, 4:46 pm #479

(21 Aug 2014, 4:45 pm)Dan That'll be the one that does the N21 afterwards? Other than that, just a case of the driver using the wrong display.

Yes that's the one.

Dan
Site Administrator
18138
21 Aug 2014, 4:47 pm
Anyway... Dennis Trident 3870 is the latest in for repaint. Will edit fleetlist when I get back in.
Dan
21 Aug 2014, 4:47 pm #480

Anyway... Dennis Trident 3870 is the latest in for repaint. Will edit fleetlist when I get back in.

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