Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2014
Arriva North East: Latest News & Discussion - August 2014
(22 Aug 2014, 12:01 pm)mb134 Sat behind 7620 (Not In Service) on the A1 going south, this had been on since at least the Seaton Burn roundabout junction, thought this was allocated to Durham, any idea where it's been?
Edit: A Pulsar, can't see which one, is in front of it also
(22 Aug 2014, 12:01 pm)mb134 Sat behind 7620 (Not In Service) on the A1 going south, this had been on since at least the Seaton Burn roundabout junction, thought this was allocated to Durham, any idea where it's been?
Edit: A Pulsar, can't see which one, is in front of it also
Arriva geminis have now gained Max livery at least 2 have been done got photos
(23 Aug 2014, 2:36 pm)DaveyBowyer For the X21 and X22, they should bring back something similar to the old X31 / X32 / X33 format. I'll post it in the service suggestions area later.
(23 Aug 2014, 2:36 pm)DaveyBowyer For the X21 and X22, they should bring back something similar to the old X31 / X32 / X33 format. I'll post it in the service suggestions area later.
(23 Aug 2014, 5:19 pm)Dan Am I dreaming here..? Have I just read that Blyth has actually managed to allocate branded vehicles to the correct services today?
We best put this in our calendars, everyone...
(23 Aug 2014, 5:19 pm)Dan Am I dreaming here..? Have I just read that Blyth has actually managed to allocate branded vehicles to the correct services today?
We best put this in our calendars, everyone...
(23 Aug 2014, 2:39 pm)Kuyoyo No, they shouldn't - there's 2 simplified routes running every 20 minutes each, instead of 3 complicated ones running every god knows what.
(23 Aug 2014, 2:39 pm)Kuyoyo No, they shouldn't - there's 2 simplified routes running every 20 minutes each, instead of 3 complicated ones running every god knows what.
(23 Aug 2014, 9:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Ok then, here's my suggestion. Please note that this is just a suggestion timetable created for NEB and not an official publication by Arriva North East!I agree that there should be more services through North Seaton, it seems gradually they've had everything taken away, I'm sure at one point they had the 35, X31 and X30 going through there, now they have a pretty unreliable 35, X20 that on the morning I've heard is packed by the time it gets there and a 57 which is only hourly.
Anyway, here's the main points:
- Faster journeys from Newbiggin to Newcastle.
- Main 15 minute combined frequency between Ashington and Newcastle with reasonable journey times with another 30 minute standalone service.
- More buses for North Seaton with evening and Sunday journeys also included avoiding a change in Ashington and providing an alternative to the hourly X20.
- The two main services would have a PVR of 11 with 7522-7528 and 7506 to 7509 under Sapphire. For the standalone service, 7501 to 7505 could operate under a brand called MAX+ which is basically Sapphire but a different name.
- Minimal idle times during nights and Sundays with one main service and the standalone service interworking. A relatively combined frequency would still remain during nights and Sundays from Ashington Bus Stn, Bedlington from either Red Lion or Glebe Bank and between Hartford Bank and Newcastle.
And just on another note, ignore the 2305 journey from Newcastle on a Sunday Night as that would terminate in Ashington and not Newbiggin.
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(23 Aug 2014, 9:25 pm)DaveyBowyer Ok then, here's my suggestion. Please note that this is just a suggestion timetable created for NEB and not an official publication by Arriva North East!I agree that there should be more services through North Seaton, it seems gradually they've had everything taken away, I'm sure at one point they had the 35, X31 and X30 going through there, now they have a pretty unreliable 35, X20 that on the morning I've heard is packed by the time it gets there and a 57 which is only hourly.
Anyway, here's the main points:
- Faster journeys from Newbiggin to Newcastle.
- Main 15 minute combined frequency between Ashington and Newcastle with reasonable journey times with another 30 minute standalone service.
- More buses for North Seaton with evening and Sunday journeys also included avoiding a change in Ashington and providing an alternative to the hourly X20.
- The two main services would have a PVR of 11 with 7522-7528 and 7506 to 7509 under Sapphire. For the standalone service, 7501 to 7505 could operate under a brand called MAX+ which is basically Sapphire but a different name.
- Minimal idle times during nights and Sundays with one main service and the standalone service interworking. A relatively combined frequency would still remain during nights and Sundays from Ashington Bus Stn, Bedlington from either Red Lion or Glebe Bank and between Hartford Bank and Newcastle.
And just on another note, ignore the 2305 journey from Newcastle on a Sunday Night as that would terminate in Ashington and not Newbiggin.
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(24 Aug 2014, 9:29 am)mb134 I agree that there should be more services through North Seaton, it seems gradually they've had everything taken away, I'm sure at one point they had the 35, X31 and X30 going through there, now they have a pretty unreliable 35, X20 that on the morning I've heard is packed by the time it gets there and a 57 which is only hourly.
In addition to this, if you live in North Seaton and want to get to, for example, Bedlington Station you'll have to change at Ashington which is inconvenient especially if the first bus is late and you miss your connection.
(24 Aug 2014, 9:29 am)mb134 I agree that there should be more services through North Seaton, it seems gradually they've had everything taken away, I'm sure at one point they had the 35, X31 and X30 going through there, now they have a pretty unreliable 35, X20 that on the morning I've heard is packed by the time it gets there and a 57 which is only hourly.
In addition to this, if you live in North Seaton and want to get to, for example, Bedlington Station you'll have to change at Ashington which is inconvenient especially if the first bus is late and you miss your connection.
(24 Aug 2014, 9:53 am)DaveyBowyer Absolutely and I don't live in Newbigggin but why should passengers further away suffer from a detour via Ridge Farm and Nedderton? They were angry about it at the time and rightly so all just for the sake of a 10 minute combined frequency that goes off at Bedlington with 15 minute gaps. The old format was far better for passengers and far quicker too.I can see why the Nedderton bit is in place: school kids, from the estate at the roundabout on the road into Bedlington from Nedderton, I've seen kids get on here before and then off at Bedlington Station where I believe the high school is, I've also seen more do this on the return journey.
(24 Aug 2014, 9:53 am)DaveyBowyer Absolutely and I don't live in Newbigggin but why should passengers further away suffer from a detour via Ridge Farm and Nedderton? They were angry about it at the time and rightly so all just for the sake of a 10 minute combined frequency that goes off at Bedlington with 15 minute gaps. The old format was far better for passengers and far quicker too.I can see why the Nedderton bit is in place: school kids, from the estate at the roundabout on the road into Bedlington from Nedderton, I've seen kids get on here before and then off at Bedlington Station where I believe the high school is, I've also seen more do this on the return journey.
(24 Aug 2014, 10:01 am)mb134 I can see why the Nedderton bit is in place: school kids, from the estate at the roundabout on the road into Bedlington from Nedderton, I've seen kids get on here before and then off at Bedlington Station where I believe the high school is, I've also seen more do this on the return journey.
(24 Aug 2014, 10:01 am)mb134 I can see why the Nedderton bit is in place: school kids, from the estate at the roundabout on the road into Bedlington from Nedderton, I've seen kids get on here before and then off at Bedlington Station where I believe the high school is, I've also seen more do this on the return journey.
(24 Aug 2014, 10:45 am)DaveyBowyer The Nedderton bit is not only there because of the school, it's there to form a combined frequency of every 10 minutes from Ashington and between Hartford Bank and Newcastle. Before 2010, it was like this between Ashington and Newcastle:
X31 / X32 every 15 mins Mon to Sat / eve and Sun every 60 mins (X31) serving: The current X21 route to the Red Lion then the current X22 route from there to Newcastle. Evening X31's also operated via Glebe Bank past the Police Station to connect with the X33.
X33 excluding Cresswell every 30 mins Mon to Sat and eve and Sun every 60 minutes but only operating to Glebe Bank during evenings and Sundays. Operated between Ashington and Glebe Bank via the current X22 route then up to the roundabout then the current X21 route from there to Newcastle.
(24 Aug 2014, 10:45 am)DaveyBowyer The Nedderton bit is not only there because of the school, it's there to form a combined frequency of every 10 minutes from Ashington and between Hartford Bank and Newcastle. Before 2010, it was like this between Ashington and Newcastle:
X31 / X32 every 15 mins Mon to Sat / eve and Sun every 60 mins (X31) serving: The current X21 route to the Red Lion then the current X22 route from there to Newcastle. Evening X31's also operated via Glebe Bank past the Police Station to connect with the X33.
X33 excluding Cresswell every 30 mins Mon to Sat and eve and Sun every 60 minutes but only operating to Glebe Bank during evenings and Sundays. Operated between Ashington and Glebe Bank via the current X22 route then up to the roundabout then the current X21 route from there to Newcastle.
(24 Aug 2014, 11:34 am)Kuyoyo Except the present X21/X22 is far better - yes they may be 15/5 minutes gap between them at Bedlington Red Lion and Stakeford, at each end of the route they are combined every 10 minutes compared to the old X31/X32/X33 where they were 7/7/15 minutes gaps. Add to the expensive re-branding of the E400s and you'll see why they won't take a step back into the past.
(24 Aug 2014, 11:34 am)Kuyoyo Except the present X21/X22 is far better - yes they may be 15/5 minutes gap between them at Bedlington Red Lion and Stakeford, at each end of the route they are combined every 10 minutes compared to the old X31/X32/X33 where they were 7/7/15 minutes gaps. Add to the expensive re-branding of the E400s and you'll see why they won't take a step back into the past.
