(08 Feb 2015, 5:27 pm)Michael wrote But the Versa's might just stay plain purple, they could be cascaded else where when new orders arrive......... i still think the 27 will get deckers to allow the citaro's to move to the 2/2A.
(08 Feb 2015, 5:29 pm)Dan wrote We'll see, but I highly doubt they'd have been repainted into SimpliCity purple at this stage if the 2/2A was in-line to receive new buses.
(08 Feb 2015, 5:33 pm)Michael wrote Never know... they could easily put them in a new brand or just cascade the Simplicity brand else where, the 33/33A/39 could gain the brand also...
So...
New buses on the 27
Citaros from 27 to 2/2A
Versa's from 2/2A to 33/33A/39
Cadets replace the B10's.
Just a guess but i would like to see that happen.
(08 Feb 2015, 5:29 pm)Dan wrote We'll see, but I highly doubt they'd have been repainted into SimpliCity purple at this stage if the 2/2A was in-line to receive new buses.Could put 8306-09, 8319 to 8327 on the 11/31/32 and 47 with the PVR being the same (I think at 13), much like Michael I am hoping for New Vehicles on the 2/2A.
(08 Feb 2015, 5:58 pm)Tom wrote If the 27 did receive Citaros I'd imagine this would happen:
Citaros from 27 to Red Kite and X70/X71
Omnicities to 15/15A and 17, one spare at Stanley, and one spare at Percy Main.
Volvo B7TL's to replace Olympians, and B10BLE's withdrawn.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:16 pm)aureolin wrote I doubt it'll see anything in the near future, given that it's just received a downgrade.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:18 pm)Tom wrote So do a lot of services, but they don't get them.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:21 pm)Dan wrote I don't think Go North East really saw it as a downgrade; after all, the vehicles allocated now are actually newer than the Mercedes Citaros previously allocated (even the older examples: 8306 - 8309).
Whilst I do agree that Mercedes Citaros are far superior in terms of ride quality, moving the Versas away from their role on service 61 and onto the new 2/2A will help cover the cost of them quicker, while the older Mercedes Citaros (whose costs should be more or less covered by now - after six and a half years on the 2A/2C) can move into a more backseat role.
I personally think that the old 2A/2C routes are helping prop up the 42 route. On evenings and Sundays, service 42 is hardly the best performer, and you regularly see empty buses. On the other hand, the old 2A/2C services yield much higher loadings in comparison.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:29 pm)Jimmi wrote I think the 15/15A is like the 14 where it is very busy on a morning heading into Durham and a double decker is needed but during the daytime until probably around 1510 it could get away with single deckers.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:29 pm)Jimmi wrote I'm not sure what the numbers are like on the 15/15A but I often saw one on a morning when I was in college and I used to see loads getting off for New College then you still had a fair few still on heading into Durham as well.
I think the 15/15A is like the 14 where it is very busy on a morning heading into Durham and a double decker is needed but during the daytime until probably around 1510 it could get away with single deckers.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:37 pm)aureolin wrote Maybe newer, but if you were offered a brand new Ford Fiesta over a 1-3 year old BMW 5 series, you'd take the 5 series every day of the week. The Citaro, in my opinion, is far superior to any other vehicle in any of the big three's fleets. Passenger comfort and ride quality, rather than the technical side!
I agree that the 2/2A is propping the 42 up, and it'd be interesting to see if it's causing reliability issues. I don't use it enough these days to properly comment, but my personal experience so far is that the reliability seems to have become worse. Had two 2As appear in the space of 5 minutes last week, and the two I've used this weekend have been 5 minutes, and 8 minutes late respectively. Not great loads on them either.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm)Dan wrote Yes, you're right.
Prior to October 2012, services 15/15A were operated by single decker vehicles and there was an extra weekday journey (numbered 815) in each direction on the morning school run, operated by a Volvo Olympian. As part of a consultation held in August 2012, Go North East decided to withdraw this extra weekday journey completely and replace the single decker vehicles with double decker vehicles to provide the extra capacity when it's needed at peak times.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:37 pm)aureolin wrote Maybe newer, but if you were offered a brand new Ford Fiesta over a 1-3 year old BMW 5 series, you'd take the 5 series every day of the week. The Citaro, in my opinion, is far superior to any other vehicle in any of the big three's fleets. Passenger comfort and ride quality, rather than the technical side!
I agree that the 2/2A is propping the 42 up, and it'd be interesting to see if it's causing reliability issues. I don't use it enough these days to properly comment, but my personal experience so far is that the reliability seems to have become worse. Had two 2As appear in the space of 5 minutes last week, and the two I've used this weekend have been 5 minutes, and 8 minutes late respectively. Not great loads on them either.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:41 pm)Dan wrote Yes, you're right.
Prior to October 2012, services 15/15A were operated by single decker vehicles and there was an extra weekday journey (numbered 815) in each direction on the morning school run, operated by a Volvo Olympian. As part of a consultation held in August 2012, Go North East decided to withdraw this extra weekday journey completely and replace the single decker vehicles with double decker vehicles to provide the extra capacity when it's needed at peak times.
(08 Feb 2015, 6:46 pm)Michael wrote I still think it should of gone in Park Lane both ways..
Stand H - Silksworth
Stand K - Washington
(08 Feb 2015, 6:54 pm)Jimmi wrote There is an extra 15 journey on school day mornings from Consett to Durham running 5 minutes in front of another 15. I've seen all sorts appear on this journey over the years usually a President or Volvo Olympian although I've also seen Venture Solo SR's and SPDs a good few times before.
Apparently these 15's are pretty busy on a morning as someone on my course used to get it from Consett.
(08 Feb 2015, 7:07 pm)Dan wrote So even with a double decked allocation, the 15 needs a dupe! Think Tom needs to find a new home for the OmniCitys in his plan!![]()
(09 Feb 2015, 11:18 am)leestransportphotos wrote It might be just gossip but I got told there are plans to brand the 82/82A and I've been told by someone called James the 35/35A etc will be rebranded Go Golden!!
(09 Feb 2015, 1:49 pm)citaro5284 wrote I have just checked the destination file that is in the Mercedes, and they all have the correct spelling 'Bournmoor'