(11 Feb 2015, 6:09 pm)Dan wrote Although does this suggest that, over time, ADL products lose their touch? We've been quick to sing the praises of new ADL Enviro400s lately, but there doesn't seem to be many positive comments about older examples...

The Red Kite services, as Michael pointed out, have had their allocated OmniCitys since 2007 (ie 8 years this year). The same could apply to the Pronto if it was to receive investment. In my opinion, I don't think the ADL Enviro400s on the X18 will be quite as nice in 2022...

Hmm i had a re-think of my predicated order list:

Lime - 15 (2 spare, 1 for Chester, 1 for Stanley) - Streetlites 

X66 - 5 - Streetlites
Pronto - 7 (1 spare) - E400
ToonLink - 14 (1 spare) - E400
Red Kite - 10 (1 spare) - Streelite/Versa 
Crusader - 14 (1 spare) - E400 


Is the cummin's engine on offer for all the makes of the enviro? (E200 etc)

Orders should hopefully start arriving within the next few weeks. 

My Predictions:

25 Wright Streetlite 10.4m - East Durham and Tynedale Links
30 Wright Streetlite MAX - X66/Lime and Red Kite
20 Enviro 400MMC - Pronto and Toonlink

(11 Feb 2015, 6:09 pm)Dan wrote Although does this suggest that, over time, ADL products lose their touch? We've been quick to sing the praises of new ADL Enviro400s lately, but there doesn't seem to be many positive comments about older examples...

The Red Kite services, as Michael pointed out, have had their allocated OmniCitys since 2007 (ie 8 years this year). The same could apply to the Pronto if it was to receive investment. In my opinion, I don't think the ADL Enviro400s on the X18 will be quite as nice in 2022...

And I don't think the Hexham lads would he happy in 2020 with E400s after the trouble that 7430-7435 gave them on the 602 for three year.

(11 Feb 2015, 7:03 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote And I don't think the Hexham lads would he happy in 2020 with E400s after the trouble that 7430-7435 gave them on the 602 for three year.

They're not even remotely similar vehicles, so how can you make an accurate comparison?

(11 Feb 2015, 7:03 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote And I don't think the Hexham lads would he happy in 2020 with E400s after the trouble that 7430-7435 gave them on the 602 for three year.

7430-7435 - aren't they ALX400s?
The 602 was Arriva up until Go North East got the Hexham depot off Arriva.

And GNE have never had E400s (only the one that was parked at Riverside)
?????

(11 Feb 2015, 7:08 pm)BJ10VUS wrote They're not even remotely similar vehicles, so how can you make an accurate comparison?

But that is the legacy of all Dennis / Transbus / ADL and Cummins chassis. Volvo and Scania chassis are far superior products for anything out of towns and cities. Even the Spirit Buses MD wanted Volvos due to the superior quality but had to suffice for ADL instead due to finance.

And, before 7501 - 7506 left the 308 at 4 year old (3 year for 7506), they were crawling on the Coast Road slip roads.

(11 Feb 2015, 7:12 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote But that is the legacy of all Dennis / Transbus / ADL and Cummins chassis. Volvo and Scania chassis are far superior products for anything out of towns and cities. Even the Spirit Buses MD wanted Volvos due to the superior quality but had to suffice for ADL instead due to finance.

Yes, we know. 

You don't even make sense now... 

(11 Feb 2015, 7:14 pm)DaveyBowyer wrote And, before 7501 - 7506 left the 308 at 4 year old (3 year for 7506), they were crawling on the Coast Road slip roads.

Because they were going up bloody hills! 

My opinion - Wright body on a Volvo chassis and you've got a bus that'll last a lifetime.

(11 Feb 2015, 7:16 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote Because they were going up bloody hills! 

Howay man, the Coast Road sliproads aren't too bad and bar the odd trip out on a Blyth Express route, they didn't go anywhere near hilly or demanding routes.

(11 Feb 2015, 7:17 pm)MarcTheA4 wrote My opinion - Wright body on a Volvo chassis and you've got a bus that'll last a lifetime.

EXACTLY!!! 

Try and get that across to power-obsessed Jeremy Clarkson. 

(11 Feb 2015, 7:15 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote Yes, we know. 

You don't even make sense now... 

Davey is making perfect sense...?

(11 Feb 2015, 7:27 pm)Dan wrote Davey is making perfect sense...?

He was saying something about the 602s and 7430-5 and Hexham depot...? And E400s?

(11 Feb 2015, 7:28 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote He was saying something about the 602s and 7430-5 and Hexham depot...? And E400s?

Davey makes a hell of a lot more sense than you...!

(11 Feb 2015, 7:47 pm)Tom wrote Davie makes a hell of a lot more sense than you...!

Thanks for the feedback, I shall pass this on to the appropriate department.

(Rolls eyes, disgusted face, continues)

Go North East on Facebook: ''I can confirm that the X66 service will be getting new vehicles March/April''

(17 Feb 2015, 10:46 am)Tom wrote Go North East on Facebook: ''I can confirm that the X66 service will be getting new vehicles March/April''

Possibly amongst the first to arrive, then.

(17 Feb 2015, 10:53 am)MarcTheA4 wrote Possibly amongst the first to arrive, then.

Yep!

(17 Feb 2015, 10:57 am)Tom wrote Yep!

You should of asked what kind of buses the X66 was getting  


Maybe even ask about what other routes are getting new buses   

(17 Feb 2015, 11:23 am)Michael wrote You should of asked what kind of buses the X66 was getting  


Maybe even ask about what other routes are getting new buses   

It's a trap!

(17 Feb 2015, 11:23 am)Michael wrote You should of asked what kind of buses the X66 was getting  


Maybe even ask about what other routes are getting new buses   

I think that might be giving too much away?...  
That facebook comment just confirms what we already knew anyway. Should have asked about one of the other routes we think new buses would arrive for.

(17 Feb 2015, 11:25 am)MarcTheA4 wrote It's a trap!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYyx3CBSO_0 XD 

(17 Feb 2015, 11:27 am)Robert wrote I think that might be giving too much away?...  
That facebook comment just confirms what we already knew anyway. Should have asked about one of the other routes we think new buses would arrive for.

Tom beat me to it!! 

I already have

I might sound a bit negative, but what the hell.

Is it just me who couldn't care less what buses they're getting? They'll arrive when they arrive, and we'll have a good 15 year to see, ride or photograph them.

(17 Feb 2015, 11:30 am)aureolin wrote I might sound a bit negative, but what the hell.

Is it just me who couldn't care less what buses they're getting? They'll arrive when they arrive, and we'll have a good 15 year to see, ride or photograph them.

Only route i care about is the Lime 8... lol 

(17 Feb 2015, 11:31 am)Michael wrote Only route i care about is the Lime 8... lol 

Same. The Lime is all I need to know!

I think it is more of an interest than caring. Obviously, people who live on route such as the lime will care but i wouldnt care for lets say the crusader (as an example) because i dont live on that route but I would be interested.

(17 Feb 2015, 11:55 am)Robert wrote I think it is more of an interest than caring. Obviously, people who live on route such as the like will care but i wouldnt care for lets say the crusader (as an example) because i dont live on that route. I would be interested but i wouldnt care.

I'm the same, I'm only interested in else where but i kinda care whats gonna be on the lime because i live on the route.