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R852 PRG

4722

15 Mar 2015, 7:06 pm

#2121

(15 Mar 2015, 7:05 pm)Adam Between Wrekenton and Gateshead, the 51 goes via Easedale Gardens, Kells Lane, Dryden Road and Shipcote before getting to Gateshead, taking around 20 minutes.

The 52 meanwhile goes round Springwell Estate, Leam Lane, Fewster Square, more of Leam Lane, Heworth, Felling Square, Carr Hill and Deckham before getting to Gateshead, taking about 40 minutes

I made that error once: Big Grin

bazaba

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R852 PRG

15 Mar 2015, 7:06 pm #2121

(15 Mar 2015, 7:05 pm)Adam Between Wrekenton and Gateshead, the 51 goes via Easedale Gardens, Kells Lane, Dryden Road and Shipcote before getting to Gateshead, taking around 20 minutes.

The 52 meanwhile goes round Springwell Estate, Leam Lane, Fewster Square, more of Leam Lane, Heworth, Felling Square, Carr Hill and Deckham before getting to Gateshead, taking about 40 minutes

I made that error once: Big Grin

bazaba

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Adam

717

15 Mar 2015, 7:08 pm

#2122

(15 Mar 2015, 7:06 pm)MarcTheA4 I made that error once:

haha you're not the first to make it. It is confusing as both the 51 and 52 are due at the exact same time, stopping on the same side of the road at the same stop, i.e. outside the Co-op.

Adam

15 Mar 2015, 7:08 pm #2122

(15 Mar 2015, 7:06 pm)MarcTheA4 I made that error once:

haha you're not the first to make it. It is confusing as both the 51 and 52 are due at the exact same time, stopping on the same side of the road at the same stop, i.e. outside the Co-op.

R852 PRG

4722

15 Mar 2015, 7:31 pm

#2123

(15 Mar 2015, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 And a tour of Gateshead as you got on the 54 instead of 53....think you want to give Gateshead a miss Marcus!

Chester Moor Shuttle, bit of an adventure around Sunderland then over to Washington/Heworth next week! Wink

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R852 PRG

15 Mar 2015, 7:31 pm #2123

(15 Mar 2015, 7:30 pm)citaro5284 And a tour of Gateshead as you got on the 54 instead of 53....think you want to give Gateshead a miss Marcus!

Chester Moor Shuttle, bit of an adventure around Sunderland then over to Washington/Heworth next week! Wink

bazaba

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Malarkey

6064

15 Mar 2015, 8:50 pm

#2124

Been having yet another think this evening on the Washington Local Services, as a few members been having a minor discussion on them.

82 - Birtley - Portmeads - Portobello - Washington Galleries - Albany - Concord - Donwell - Springwell - Springwell Village - Leam Lane Estate - Heworth

Will no longer serve the Housing Estates around Washington, This will be covered by the New 83/84/85/86 below.
Provides a Faster more Direct Service between Birtley and Washington Galleries
Quicker Connections to Newcastle/Gateshead and Sunderland
New Links provided between Washington Galleries and Heworth.

83/84/85/86 - Concord - Donwell (83/86) - Parsons Industrial Estate (83/84/85/86) - B&Q (84/85) - Blackfell - Blackfell Knoulberry (83/86) - Oxclose Village Centre via Castle Road (83/84/85/86) - Ayton Village Centre (83/84/85/86) - Rickleton (83/86) - Harraton (83/86) - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Sainsburys Car Park - Glebe (83/86) - Biddick (84/85) - Washington Village (83/86) - Brady Square (84/85) - Barmston Court(84/85) - Barmston Village Centre (83/86) - Barmston Waskley Way (84/85) - Peel Retail Park (83/84/85/86) - Washington School (83/86) - Sulgrave (84/85) - Concord

Merging of the Short 82 from Rickleton to Concord with Services 85/86.
83/84 will operate a Clockwise Loop of Washington while 85/86 operate an Anti Clockwise Loop.
Services will operate Every 30 Minutes, Providing a Service Every 15/30 Minutes both Clockwise/Anti Clockwise.
All areas of Washington linked together providing New and Existing Links.
No loss of Service in any Areas as a result of Service Changes.
Less Profitable Services made Profitable.
New Vehicle Investment in Services made more Commercially Viable.

Just in case anyone gets confused when looking at the above, here is a Break Down below.

83 - Concord - Washington School - Peel Retail Park - Barmston Village Centre - Washington Village - Glebe - Sainsburys - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Harraton - Rickleton - Ayton - Oxclose - Blackfell Knoulberry - Parsons - Donwell - Concord

84 - Concord - Sulgrave - Peel Retail Park - Barmston Waskerley Way - Barmston Court - Brady Square - Biddick - Sainsburys - Washington Galleries - Lambton - Ayton - Oxclose - Blackfell - B&Q - Parsons - Concord

85 - Concord - Parsons Industrial Estate - B&Q - Blackfell - Oxclose - Ayton Village Centre - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Sainsburys Car Park - Biddick - Brady Square - Barmston Court - Barmston Waskley Way - Peel Retail Park - Sulgrave - Concord

86 - Concord - Donwell - Parsons Industrial Estate - Blackfell Knoulberry - Oxclose - Ayton - Rickleton - Harraton - Lambton - Washington Galleries - Sainsburys - Glebe - Washington Village - Barmston Village Centre - Peel Retail Park - Washington School - Concord

Malarkey

15 Mar 2015, 8:50 pm #2124

Will no longer serve the Housing Estates around Washington, This will be covered by the New 83/84/85/86 below.
Provides a Faster more Direct Service between Birtley and Washington Galleries
Quicker Connections to Newcastle/Gateshead and Sunderland
New Links provided between Washington Galleries and Heworth.

Merging of the Short 82 from Rickleton to Concord with Services 85/86.
83/84 will operate a Clockwise Loop of Washington while 85/86 operate an Anti Clockwise Loop.
Services will operate Every 30 Minutes, Providing a Service Every 15/30 Minutes both Clockwise/Anti Clockwise.
All areas of Washington linked together providing New and Existing Links.
No loss of Service in any Areas as a result of Service Changes.
Less Profitable Services made Profitable.
New Vehicle Investment in Services made more Commercially Viable.

LeeCalder

1928

15 Mar 2015, 9:18 pm

#2125

barley mow?

LeeCalder

15 Mar 2015, 9:18 pm #2125

barley mow?

Malarkey

6064

15 Mar 2015, 9:22 pm

#2126

(15 Mar 2015, 9:18 pm)leestransportphotos barley mow?

It will be served by the 82 lee as it is currently.

Malarkey

15 Mar 2015, 9:22 pm #2126

(15 Mar 2015, 9:18 pm)leestransportphotos barley mow?

It will be served by the 82 lee as it is currently.

L469 YVK

3561

16 Mar 2015, 12:25 am

#2127

(15 Mar 2015, 4:58 pm)Tommy_1581 I would certainly use GNE, nice clean and bright buses.

The X32 would that go via Elephant?

It would be like this:

- X70/X71 renumbered X72 / X73.

- X31 every 30 minutes Mon to Sat (60 eve and Sun) serving: Same route as X21 from Seacrest Rd to Bedlington Fromt Street then same route as the X22 from Front Street to Newcastle.

- X32 every 30 minutes Mon to Sat (60 eve and Sun) serving: Seacrest Rd, North Seaton NSC / Fairfield Dr, Ashington Bus Station then same route as X31 from there.

- X31 / X32 every 15 minutes combined Mon to Sat (30 eve and Sun) from Newbiggin Seacrest Rd (13/17 minutes and 29/31 eve and Sun) and between Ashington and Newcastle. The PVR interworking in Newbiggin would be 11 Mon to Sat (5 eve and Sun). Both services would get 12-15 minutes layover at Newbiggin and 10 minutes at Haymarket and on a Sunday, both services would get 7 minutes at Haymarket and either 10 or 11 minutes at Newbiggin.

And these would be the fares:
- Newcastle to Bedlington = £3.20
- Newcastle to Stakeford = £3.80
- Newcastle to Ashington = £4.10
- Newcastle to North Seaton Fairfield Dr = £4.40
- Newcastle to Newbiggin = £4.70
- Ashington Express saver for all parts of all routes = £5.50 or £20.00 for the week. No monthly option available.
- 2 zone buzzfare (Orange and Blue) available for £6.20 or £24.50 for the week allowing travel across S.E Northumberland, North Tyneside, Newcastle City Centre (not Quaylink) and all Eldon Square services to Metrocentre and X66 from Gateshead.
- Cobalt Connect saver changed to allow travel between 07:00 and 09:00 , and 16:00 and end of service on all X31 / X32 between Ashington and Newcastle and services 309/310/X39 between Newcastle and Cobalt. Would also be valid between 07:00 and 09:00 and after 16:00 until end of service on a Saturday and all day Sunday.

L469 YVK

16 Mar 2015, 12:25 am #2127

(15 Mar 2015, 4:58 pm)Tommy_1581 I would certainly use GNE, nice clean and bright buses.

The X32 would that go via Elephant?

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 7:55 am

#2128

If you were in charge of the buses Davie, there would be a bus in Wrekenton every 30 seconds! (Even though there already is) haha

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 7:55 am #2128

If you were in charge of the buses Davie, there would be a bus in Wrekenton every 30 seconds! (Even though there already is) haha

MrFozz
Marxista Fozzski

5562

16 Mar 2015, 9:49 am

#2129

(16 Mar 2015, 7:55 am)leestransportphotos If you were in charge of the buses Davie, there would be a bus in Wrekenton every 30 seconds! (Even though there already is) haha

And if I was Murton and Dalton Park Transport Co-Ordinator there would be a bus every 9.8 seconds from the Colliery Inn Big Grin

MrFozz

16 Mar 2015, 9:49 am #2129

(16 Mar 2015, 7:55 am)leestransportphotos If you were in charge of the buses Davie, there would be a bus in Wrekenton every 30 seconds! (Even though there already is) haha

And if I was Murton and Dalton Park Transport Co-Ordinator there would be a bus every 9.8 seconds from the Colliery Inn Big Grin

omnicity4659

5593

16 Mar 2015, 10:03 am

#2130

Davey - how much will it cost from Fifth Avenue to Ashington Bus Station? (Arriva child single 60p, return £1.10, adult single £1.20, return £1.80)

omnicity4659

16 Mar 2015, 10:03 am #2130

Davey - how much will it cost from Fifth Avenue to Ashington Bus Station? (Arriva child single 60p, return £1.10, adult single £1.20, return £1.80)

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 10:05 am

#2131

(16 Mar 2015, 9:49 am)MrFozz And if I was Murton and Dalton Park Transport Co-Ordinator there would be a bus every 9.8 seconds from the Colliery Inn

Haha, to be fair if I was in charge of putting buses around Barley Mow there would still be the 23, 23A, 183, 777, 77 etc

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 10:05 am #2131

(16 Mar 2015, 9:49 am)MrFozz And if I was Murton and Dalton Park Transport Co-Ordinator there would be a bus every 9.8 seconds from the Colliery Inn

Haha, to be fair if I was in charge of putting buses around Barley Mow there would still be the 23, 23A, 183, 777, 77 etc

Andreos1

14269

16 Mar 2015, 3:13 pm

#2132

(14 Mar 2015, 2:15 pm)roar But the service would be aimed at people travelling into and out of the area from the Coast Road and the area the service would start from so the Chillingham Road Metro Station is of no use to them, anyone traveling from even Chillingham Road to Byker uses the bus at the moment, thats why Stagecoach services 62 and 63 do very well from Chillingham Road to Byker and the City Centre.

Which way did the N58 go? Sure it went full or part of that route.

(16 Mar 2015, 10:05 am)leestransportphotos Haha, to be fair if I was in charge of putting buses around Barley Mow there would still be the 23, 23A, 183, 777, 77 etc

Bring back the 26!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

16 Mar 2015, 3:13 pm #2132

(14 Mar 2015, 2:15 pm)roar But the service would be aimed at people travelling into and out of the area from the Coast Road and the area the service would start from so the Chillingham Road Metro Station is of no use to them, anyone traveling from even Chillingham Road to Byker uses the bus at the moment, thats why Stagecoach services 62 and 63 do very well from Chillingham Road to Byker and the City Centre.

Which way did the N58 go? Sure it went full or part of that route.

(16 Mar 2015, 10:05 am)leestransportphotos Haha, to be fair if I was in charge of putting buses around Barley Mow there would still be the 23, 23A, 183, 777, 77 etc

Bring back the 26!

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 3:18 pm

#2133

Where did the 26 even go? I've heard it mentioned but I don't know anything about it

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 3:18 pm #2133

Where did the 26 even go? I've heard it mentioned but I don't know anything about it

Andreos1

14269

16 Mar 2015, 3:20 pm

#2134

(16 Mar 2015, 3:18 pm)leestransportphotos Where did the 26 even go? I've heard it mentioned but I don't know anything about it

Gateshead to Barley Mow via Durham Road and then extended to Worswick Street post 86.

From Birtley, it did Dorset Ave, past the schools, The Drive, Bedford Ave, Vigo Lane and back onto Durham Road.
There were some variations - like going past the Codfather and Norfolk Place, before getting onto Bedford Avenue.

Generally a decker until the early 90's.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

16 Mar 2015, 3:20 pm #2134

(16 Mar 2015, 3:18 pm)leestransportphotos Where did the 26 even go? I've heard it mentioned but I don't know anything about it

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 3:21 pm

#2135

Ah right, so it basically followed the old 23 route around BM

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 3:21 pm #2135

Ah right, so it basically followed the old 23 route around BM

Andreos1

14269

16 Mar 2015, 3:29 pm

#2136

(16 Mar 2015, 3:21 pm)leestransportphotos Ah right, so it basically followed the old 23 route around BM

I think the 23 has always gone in the places the 26 hasn't. Basically filled in the gaps where there wasn't a service.

The 721 and 727 were canny too.

The 721, did Chester to Newcastle via Barley Mow (reverse of 26) and then the 777 route to Newcastle via Wrekenton.
The OK 727 chased the 721 up Old Durham Road and Lansbury Drive and then did the same route as the 26 through Barley Mow.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

16 Mar 2015, 3:29 pm #2136

(16 Mar 2015, 3:21 pm)leestransportphotos Ah right, so it basically followed the old 23 route around BM

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm

#2137

I remember getting the 777 to S'land

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm #2137

I remember getting the 777 to S'land

Andreos1

14269

16 Mar 2015, 3:38 pm

#2138

(16 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm)leestransportphotos I remember getting the 777 to S'land

Aye, think it started going via Barley Mow and Newcastle when the 26 went the journey.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

16 Mar 2015, 3:38 pm #2138

(16 Mar 2015, 3:36 pm)leestransportphotos I remember getting the 777 to S'land

Aye, think it started going via Barley Mow and Newcastle when the 26 went the journey.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

LeeCalder

1928

16 Mar 2015, 3:39 pm

#2139

Was the 26 not well used like?

LeeCalder

16 Mar 2015, 3:39 pm #2139

Was the 26 not well used like?

Andreos1

14269

16 Mar 2015, 3:44 pm

#2140

(16 Mar 2015, 3:39 pm)leestransportphotos Was the 26 not well used like?

It was, then gradually declined. Really, the 777 was just an extension/variation of the 26 - albeit hourly, instead of every 30 mins.

The 26 had Atlanteans and Metrobuses on and always seemed well used. Then they stuck Handybuses on (which were too small) and then Lances.
By that point, you had the 21 bus war though and the start of an 'obsession'.

There was the 24 (to Allerdene), 25 to Wrekenton, 26, 27 to Heworth (like the 51/52 route) and the 28 to Kibblesworth. All ended up going and then coming back in some form or another - apart from the 26/777/721.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

Andreos1

16 Mar 2015, 3:44 pm #2140

(16 Mar 2015, 3:39 pm)leestransportphotos Was the 26 not well used like?

'Illegitimis non carborundum'

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