(28 Jun 2013, 4:31 pm)citaro5284 wrote(28 Jun 2013, 1:00 pm)gtomlinson wrote I'll have a think about this.
It's more likely (and the plan is) to build a bus station towards Pilgrim Street/Newbridge Street to keep Southbound (basically GNE) out of the City X=Centre and reduce congestion
Of course until Pilgrim Street is redeveloped (a long long long time away) nothing will happen as GNE aren't going to want passengers dumped in a dead part of the city as opposed to the horrifically designed Eldon Square
And of course there is the departure charges which Nexus currently charge every time a bus leaves a bus station - They need to be reasonable for a new station or bus companies will still operate around the City Centre.
(29 Jun 2013, 12:38 pm)BJ10VUS wrote(28 Jun 2013, 4:31 pm)citaro5284 wrote(28 Jun 2013, 1:00 pm)gtomlinson wrote I'll have a think about this.
It's more likely (and the plan is) to build a bus station towards Pilgrim Street/Newbridge Street to keep Southbound (basically GNE) out of the City X=Centre and reduce congestion
Of course until Pilgrim Street is redeveloped (a long long long time away) nothing will happen as GNE aren't going to want passengers dumped in a dead part of the city as opposed to the horrifically designed Eldon Square
And of course there is the departure charges which Nexus currently charge every time a bus leaves a bus station - They need to be reasonable for a new station or bus companies will still operate around the City Centre.
Do they have departure charges for all bus stations, including smaller ones like Jarrow and Hetton-le-Hole?
(29 Jun 2013, 1:13 pm)Andreos1 wrote Now it makes sense bus companies owning their own stations in the past or driving "around" town.
In Sunderland, I wonder how much difference those charges make in relation to the profitability of a Stagecoach service being stable and consistent over a GNE service, which is subject to changes on what seems like an all too regular basis.
(29 Jun 2013, 1:03 pm)BJ10VUS wrote I've actually done some Google searching and managed to find the following. Not how up-to-date the information is, but this is the charge per bus departure.
Eldon Square - 62.7p
Haymarket - 55p
Gateshead - 47p
Park Lane Interchange - 47p
Four Lane Ends - 26p
That's pretty expensive, to be honest. Consider a bus service like the X66 - there's probably about 700 departures per week? This is just guess work...
700 x 47p - £329
£329 x 52 = £17108 per year
(29 Jun 2013, 3:53 pm)Daniel wrote(29 Jun 2013, 1:03 pm)BJ10VUS wrote I've actually done some Google searching and managed to find the following. Not how up-to-date the information is, but this is the charge per bus departure.
Eldon Square - 62.7p
Haymarket - 55p
Gateshead - 47p
Park Lane Interchange - 47p
Four Lane Ends - 26p
That's pretty expensive, to be honest. Consider a bus service like the X66 - there's probably about 700 departures per week? This is just guess work...
700 x 47p - £329
£329 x 52 = £17108 per year
Crikey, I didn't think that the costs would be so high just for one service!
Here's a question for you all... If a service is secured by Nexus and is operated by say, Go North East... Do Go North East pay for it, or does the tender?
(29 Jun 2013, 3:53 pm)Daniel wrote Crikey, I didn't think that the costs would be so high just for one service!
(29 Jun 2013, 1:22 pm)BJ10VUS wrote(29 Jun 2013, 1:13 pm)Andreos1 wrote Now it makes sense bus companies owning their own stations in the past or driving "around" town.
In Sunderland, I wonder how much difference those charges make in relation to the profitability of a Stagecoach service being stable and consistent over a GNE service, which is subject to changes on what seems like an all too regular basis.
I think it's ridiculous that bus companies are charged to use a bus station. Thinking Go North East and the amount of services that operate through Gateshead Interchange and Park Lane - that must amount to hundreds of thousands of pounds a year. I see why Stagecoach's X34 only serves Gateshead Interchange in one direction!
(01 Jul 2013, 10:24 am)CatsFast101 wrote Will all interchanges charge for departures? So like Hetton or Seaham? Peterlee Bus Station or Hartlepool Interchange? Or is it just large bus station? I mean things like Peterlee will probably still need a bit maintenance especially Peterlee with there auto senor doors.
(24 Oct 2014, 3:32 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote Does anyone think there should be Modifications made to Sunderland Park Lane Interchange, if so what would like to see done?
Here is a few I have thought of.
- Pedestrianize the Current Stockton Road/Mary Street Entrance/Exit to Park Lane and have the Entrance/Exit on the Main Stretch of Stockton Road alongside the Current Entrance to where the 42 and 60 etc Stop, This would therefore result in Traffic Lights having to be re-positioned, it would also prevent Serious Accidents such as Pedestrians been knocked over by a Bus, This Afternoon alone I witnessed 3 close shaves in the space of 20 Minutes.
- Modifications to both sets of Layovers and Stands as Buses seem to have Difficulty getting past if there Buses on Both the Layover and the Stands at the same time, *Cough* Particularly on the Centre Piece where the 56/X36/29 and 700 all Stop.
- Widening of the Road next to where the 2A/2C/8/39/73 and 78 Stop, Often gets congested due the poor Alignment of Vehicles on those Stands, Particulary the 39/SA Stand.
- Male/Female and Disabled Toilets Refurbished so that are more Public Friendly and are Properly Maintained as they are Rank, surprised no one has been Raped or something in there with those horrid Blue Lights.
(24 Oct 2014, 3:34 pm)Tom wrote Completely agree, those toilets are vile. I don't use them and generally go to Debenhams or somewhere if I need to use the toilet.
(24 Oct 2014, 3:52 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I would rather Risk Shitting Myself whilst walking to Debenhams or The Bridges to use the Toilets there, than use the Toilets in Park Lane.
(24 Oct 2014, 4:18 pm)Andreos1 wrote Speaking of toilets, have you returned to Eldon Square toilets recently or are you still scarred from getting locked in that time?
(24 Oct 2014, 3:52 pm)NEBCD Malarkey wrote I would rather Risk Shitting Myself whilst walking to Debenhams or The Bridges to use the Toilets there, than use the Toilets in Park Lane.I nearly did shit myself a while back when I had a case of the Russian Revolutions, I barely made it to Ladbrokes at the top of Blandford Street