(23 Mar 2015, 7:01 pm)citaro5284 wrote eee Scott, did you not have a go at GNE for doing the same with the X7......
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(20 Mar 2015, 3:52 pm)Jimmi wrote Darlington changes on VOSA today.
PB0002717/200 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Middlesbrough and Darlington given service number X66/66 effective from 17-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/202 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Mowden given service number 3 effective from 17-May-2015.
PB0002717/210 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Skerne Park and Harrowgate Farm given service number 14/14a/14b effective from 17-May-2015.
PB0002717/211 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Darlington and Bishop Auckland given service number 5/5A effective from 17-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/380 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Peterlee and Sunderland given service number X21 effective from 17-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002717/396 - ARRIVA DURHAM COUNTY LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Darlington
Finish Point: Tow Law
Via:
Service Number: X1
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 17-MAY-2015
Other Details: Up to every 30 minutes Mon-Sat
(26 Mar 2015, 12:46 pm)Jimmi wrote New Durham timetables from Sunday 17th May are now online.
Can't see any major changes, all I noticed is there will be less service 6 journeys extending to Framwellgate Moor at weekday peak times. The 57A will no longer run to Durham Johnston School at school times which means the 56 will no longer drop off service on school days to do the Durham Johnston School 57A journeys. I have looked at the 24/24X timetable and from what I can see it is exactly the same timetable so unsure what is happening here.
I have only glanced at most of these timetables on weekdays so I may have missed things.
(26 Mar 2015, 12:18 pm)Jimmi wrote On VOSA today:
PB0002032/333 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Thropton and Morpeth given service number X14 effective from 24-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002032/396 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth given service number X14 effective from 24-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
(26 Mar 2015, 7:44 pm)Tommy_1581 wrote 57A/33 and X15/X18 changes are to come as well if the X14 is changing.
Also, I see that the X14 goes to Thropton? Must be keeping the X14 number all the way up to Thropton and splitting the X14 at Morpeth (similar to the X93) so it is a "X" route for MAX.
(26 Mar 2015, 7:41 pm)cbma06 wrote I wonder if their taking the 24 back out of Southway and Helford Road again, its been like a yoyo around here. The Arriva timetables should have the route information on.
(26 Mar 2015, 7:58 pm)Jimmi wrote Not a clue what is going on as the all stops timetable looks to be exactly the same too.
Honestly can't see what the timetable change is - possibly the 24X going back to term times only as it is also in the registration.
The current timetable on Arriva's website says the 24X only runs during term times but the timetable on the Durham Cartogold site doesn't say term time only and I don't think Arriva's printed timetables say term time only either.
Think it is possible the 24X could be school days only again now it will no longer run light to Sunderland to do an extra X21 on an evening.
(27 Mar 2015, 7:30 pm)Michael wrote PB0002032/396 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Morpeth given service number X14 effective from 24-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002032/428 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Berwick given service number X18 effective from 24-May-2015.
PB0002032/429 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Newcastle and Berwick given service number X15 effective from 24-May-2015.
PB0002032/485 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Variation Accepted: Operating between Alnwick and Morpeth given service number X15 effective from 24-May-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PB0002032/496 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Berwick
Finish Point: Alnwick
Via:
Service Number: X15
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Monday - Saturday, two hourly
PB0002032/497 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Morpeth
Finish Point: Newcastle
Via:
Service Number: X15
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Daily, up to hourly
PB0002032/498 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Morpeth
Finish Point: Newcastle
Via:
Service Number: X18
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Daily, up to hourly
PB0002032/499 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Alnwick
Finish Point: Morpeth
Via:
Service Number: X18
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Daily, up to hourly
PB0002032/500 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Seahouses
Finish Point: Alnwick
Via:
Service Number: X18
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Daily, up to two hourly
PB0002032/501 - ARRIVA NORTHUMBRIA LTD, 1 ADMIRAL WAY, DOXFORD INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS PARK, SUNDERLAND, SR3 3XP
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Berwick
Finish Point: Seahouses
Via:
Service Number: X18
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-MAY-2015
Other Details: Daily, up to two hourly
(27 Mar 2015, 9:28 pm)MrFozz wrote Gonna plead stupidity here...
Can someone give the idiots guide to using VOSA plz
(13 Apr 2015, 1:52 pm)Michael wrote Changes have being posted on the Arriva site for changes in Darlington & County Durham from 17th May - http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/north-east/La...dxI01.dpuf
(14 Apr 2015, 10:30 am)Michael wrote Just noticed the X21 is loosing journeys already...Not surprised...every time I see it carries fresh air and the 2 times I used it from Peterlee to Ryhope there was only me and the driver
Service X21 - Peterlee to Sunderland
The following Monday to Friday journeys will be withdrawn due to low usage;
08:02 from Peterlee to Sunderland, arriving 08:33
08:45 from Sunderland to Peterlee, arriving 09:11
17:50 from Sunderland to Peterlee, arriving 18:21
All other journeys will continue to operate, but to a slightly revised timetable.
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(14 Apr 2015, 10:30 am)Michael wrote Just noticed the X21 is loosing journeys already...
Service X21 - Peterlee to Sunderland
The following Monday to Friday journeys will be withdrawn due to low usage;
08:02 from Peterlee to Sunderland, arriving 08:33
08:45 from Sunderland to Peterlee, arriving 09:11
17:50 from Sunderland to Peterlee, arriving 18:21
All other journeys will continue to operate, but to a slightly revised timetable.
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(14 Apr 2015, 11:33 am)Jimmi wrote The weekday morning Peterlee - Sunderland and Sunderland - Peterlee are mainly as a result of Arriva taking on extra journeys on service 6 in Stockton following the closure of Leven Valley I think.
The afternoon journey currently runs off the 24X with the bus running dead from Easington to Sunderland to pick up the X21 to Peterlee and then I think it ran dead back to Durham.
(14 Apr 2015, 11:48 am)Dan wrote Yes - see posts here.Most I've seen on the X21 is about 10 with the worst being me and a young lad who got off somewhere on the 21 route in Peterlee. The other week I saw a mid afternoon journey leave Peterlee for Sunderland only carrying a mum and dad with a pram who got on along the 21 route in Peterlee.
As I've said previously - the morning peak-time extra X21 actually tended to carry more passengers than the normal Darlington run half an hour ahead. I was surprised that no further alterations were planned for the X21, given that it does run empty most of the time. I had the pleasure of the entire bus to myself from Peterlee to Grangetown (Sunderland) on Saturday - and the driver certainly received no cash from me! There was a cash fare from outside of Southmoor Academy to Park Lane (a 2 - 3 minute journey), but I guess it was just a case of the X21 was the first bus to turn up more than anything else.
(14 Apr 2015, 11:57 am)Michael wrote So which company is winning the battle of the Sunderland to Peterlee corridor? [emoji14]Probably still Arriva given they currently have 5 buses an hour between Peterlee and Sunderland.
(14 Apr 2015, 12:11 pm)Jimmi wrote Probably still Arriva given they currently have 5 buses an hour between Peterlee and Sunderland.
I know the X7 is busier than Arriva's offerings but the X7 is hourly where as the 22/23 are half hourly and the X21 is hourly so combined these MAY make more than the X7 does.
Also in regards to the 22/23 you have to factor in the areas closer to Peterlee for example passengers travelling between say Horden and Peterlee on the 23 when you are counting the passenger numbers.
I am not the best person to speak to regarding passenger numbers in this area and I am just stating my own personal findings from my trips out.
(14 Apr 2015, 12:18 pm)Michael wrote I rarely use Arriva, i was gonna do a bus review kinda thing during these holidays but a few things have come up so haven't =(
With the 22 getting upgraded to Sapphire, be interesting to see if numbers increase.. wonder if GNE will ever put WIFI and sockets on the X7.............
(14 Apr 2015, 12:26 pm)Jimmi wrote I'm meaning to have a look at the Peterlee - Sunderland services but due to other things coming up and being ill today I haven't been able to do this.
I do hope numbers improve on the 22, doubt it will pick up any more custom in the Sunderland area with the much greater presence of GNE in the area but hopefully it could maybe get more travelling from County Durham into Sunderland perhaps, also the upcoming developments at Dalton Park could potentially improve passenger numbers. The Sapphire brand could possibly sway more people to use the service too.
