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Aaron21



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04 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm #1,381
Gne have disabled comments on twitter or x whatever u wanna call it. I do do do wonder why. Can't be the amount of complaints they would get for not running services
Aaron21
04 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm #1,381

Gne have disabled comments on twitter or x whatever u wanna call it. I do do do wonder why. Can't be the amount of complaints they would get for not running services

Ambassador



1,788
04 Dec 2023, 5:14 pm #1,382
(04 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Aaron21 Gne have disabled comments on twitter or x whatever u wanna call it. I do do do wonder why. Can't be the amount of complaints they would get for not running services

Metro do the same, it does help them reach out and track genuine support and feedback queries over random rants

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Ambassador
04 Dec 2023, 5:14 pm #1,382

(04 Dec 2023, 5:10 pm)Aaron21 Gne have disabled comments on twitter or x whatever u wanna call it. I do do do wonder why. Can't be the amount of complaints they would get for not running services

Metro do the same, it does help them reach out and track genuine support and feedback queries over random rants


Wistfully stuck in the 90s

Adrian



9,552
05 Dec 2023, 10:02 am #1,383
(04 Dec 2023, 2:30 pm)DeltaMan As unwise as some of the staff comms were, I can't recall seeing defamatory comments in what has been made public or anything derogatory being shared from his or Feathams social media accounts.....

Maybe not from their social media accounts, but company communication tools, the website and mailing lists were all used in some vein attempt to whip up frenzy towards striking workers. Some of the staff comms in particular were outrageous and lacked basic professionalism. 

(04 Dec 2023, 5:01 pm)Ambassador As much as I hate the comms from GNE, the behaviour of some drivers on that GNE Facebook strike debate group has been incredibly ill advised. I get the emotional context and getting riled up by the average thicko who uses Facebook 

Would have hoped the Union might have given some advice out

I haven't seen the posts in question, but generally I don't condone people getting involved in spats on social media. I agree it would have been pertinent to put out some advice, but I'd say this was also inevitable, given the company's insistence on playing out this dispute in the public domain. As soon as you start doing that, people start talking about it, and those involved in the dispute feel that they have to defend their position - which usually ends up going too far.

I think there's a lot of lessons to be learned here for everyone, but I don't think suspending people en-mass and going down the route of disciplinaries, in an industry that is already marred by a disciplinary culture, is the best way forward. They're already going to be dealing with issues at each depots between those who stuck it out and those who scabbed, those who voted to accept and those who didn't and managers who undermined the dispute. 

Sometimes it's better to simply speak to people, try and draw a line under it and move on.

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Adrian
05 Dec 2023, 10:02 am #1,383

(04 Dec 2023, 2:30 pm)DeltaMan As unwise as some of the staff comms were, I can't recall seeing defamatory comments in what has been made public or anything derogatory being shared from his or Feathams social media accounts.....

Maybe not from their social media accounts, but company communication tools, the website and mailing lists were all used in some vein attempt to whip up frenzy towards striking workers. Some of the staff comms in particular were outrageous and lacked basic professionalism. 

(04 Dec 2023, 5:01 pm)Ambassador As much as I hate the comms from GNE, the behaviour of some drivers on that GNE Facebook strike debate group has been incredibly ill advised. I get the emotional context and getting riled up by the average thicko who uses Facebook 

Would have hoped the Union might have given some advice out

I haven't seen the posts in question, but generally I don't condone people getting involved in spats on social media. I agree it would have been pertinent to put out some advice, but I'd say this was also inevitable, given the company's insistence on playing out this dispute in the public domain. As soon as you start doing that, people start talking about it, and those involved in the dispute feel that they have to defend their position - which usually ends up going too far.

I think there's a lot of lessons to be learned here for everyone, but I don't think suspending people en-mass and going down the route of disciplinaries, in an industry that is already marred by a disciplinary culture, is the best way forward. They're already going to be dealing with issues at each depots between those who stuck it out and those who scabbed, those who voted to accept and those who didn't and managers who undermined the dispute. 

Sometimes it's better to simply speak to people, try and draw a line under it and move on.


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Thomas12



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14 Dec 2023, 12:41 am #1,384
It's such a shame to see the demise of the Percy Main services after the industrial action. The drivers have turned awful for some reason, and reliability is shocking.

There was an angry driver on the 1 tonight for no apparent reason, shouting at passengers to hurry up and get on. And on the way there the driving standard were atrocious.

Will be sticking with Stagecoach and Arriva going forward, from what was once a regular customer.
Thomas12
14 Dec 2023, 12:41 am #1,384

It's such a shame to see the demise of the Percy Main services after the industrial action. The drivers have turned awful for some reason, and reliability is shocking.

There was an angry driver on the 1 tonight for no apparent reason, shouting at passengers to hurry up and get on. And on the way there the driving standard were atrocious.

Will be sticking with Stagecoach and Arriva going forward, from what was once a regular customer.

Rob44



1,457
27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm #1,385
Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472
Rob44
27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm #1,385

Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472

Shrek



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27 Dec 2023, 11:09 pm #1,386
(27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm)Rob44 Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472
Get him trained, he'd probably be safer than the drivers in North Tyneside since the strike ended. They certainly seem more aggressive and less patient these days!
Shrek
27 Dec 2023, 11:09 pm #1,386

(27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm)Rob44 Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472
Get him trained, he'd probably be safer than the drivers in North Tyneside since the strike ended. They certainly seem more aggressive and less patient these days!

28 Dec 2023, 11:25 am #1,387
(27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm)Rob44 Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472

He's a good lad is wor Dave, he's listed as one of the Operational Supervisors in their office.
deanmachine
28 Dec 2023, 11:25 am #1,387

(27 Dec 2023, 1:13 pm)Rob44 Hope the cat gets there pay rise as he's on the payroll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-67803472

He's a good lad is wor Dave, he's listed as one of the Operational Supervisors in their office.

Ambassador



1,788
14 Jan 2024, 10:27 pm #1,388
Im sure the website is run cheaply in house by a vaguely competent yes man but there’s still a story on the first page of the news pushing the anti driver rhetoric from the strike days.

The others have finally been removed but the ‘evil drivers amazing Ben’ story remains.

They might want to get head office to pay for an SEO specialist to push unites anti GNE stuff and GNEs anti unite stuff down the search feed too. Sure there’s money in BSIP to hire someone vaguely competent….
Ambassador
14 Jan 2024, 10:27 pm #1,388

Im sure the website is run cheaply in house by a vaguely competent yes man but there’s still a story on the first page of the news pushing the anti driver rhetoric from the strike days.

The others have finally been removed but the ‘evil drivers amazing Ben’ story remains.

They might want to get head office to pay for an SEO specialist to push unites anti GNE stuff and GNEs anti unite stuff down the search feed too. Sure there’s money in BSIP to hire someone vaguely competent….

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