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Hartlepool Depot desperately need newer buses as the fleet is absolutely knackered and they are still having 34605 and 34611 in daily use including last Sunday, not that I mind as they are still decent but with how old they are If a wheelchair gets on then it is a right hassle especially which is now quite often not helped by the current division running late.

I am fairly sure the 64/65 plate Transbus E300 are roughly the same size as the manviros so might fit over the pits that would help update the fleet a bit and the plan was for Stocktons buses to replace the current fleet once Stockton get the electrics. I think the fact the remaining Manviro at Stockton left in Service has not been repainted into new livery is hopefully a sign that it’s days are numbered and won’t be coming to Hartlepool or not for very long if it does end up here. Either way it desperately needs new buses and it’s the only depot not to have had anything in years.

(14 Jan 2025, 10:28 pm)col87 wrote Hartlepool Depot desperately need newer buses as the fleet is absolutely knackered and they are still having 34605 and 34611 in daily use including last Sunday, not that I mind as they are still decent but with how old they are If a wheelchair gets on then it is a right hassle especially which is now quite often not helped by the current division running late. 

I am fairly sure the 64/65 plate Transbus E300 are roughly the same size as the manviros so might fit over the pits that would help update the fleet a bit and the plan was for Stocktons buses to replace the current fleet once Stockton get the electrics.  I think the fact the remaining Manviro at Stockton left in Service has not been repainted into new livery is hopefully a sign that it’s days are numbered and won’t be coming to Hartlepool or not for very long if it does end up here.  Either way it desperately needs new buses and it’s the only depot not to have had anything in years.

It's time for the monthly reminder full sized single deckers can't fit in the pits at Hartlepool, as already suggested it's more than likely the 3 E200s from Stockton will replace these when the electrics come.

(08 Jan 2025, 10:32 am)ReDemPTiion wrote Does anyone know what the deal is with 27736/27737/27738, are the now permanently at Slatyford or will they eventually be going back to Sunderland?

My current understanding is that when the yutongs are up and running at Sunderland, all the HJS Euro 6 27’s (27728-27734 or whatever, I can’t even remember how many we have) are heading to slaty, and their 271’s will replace them since they are only euro 5 standard. Also understand that Sunderland’s 36’s are heading elsewhere, but not sure what’s replacing them. And lastly 28022-28030 are to be withdrawn and prepped for reading to come and collect them ASAP

(15 Jan 2025, 5:44 pm)benji123 wrote It's time for the monthly reminder full sized single deckers can't fit in the pits at Hartlepool, as already suggested it's more than likely the 3 E200s from Stockton will replace these when the electrics come.

Stagecoach management themselves  said Stocktons fleet would move to Hartlepool once they got the electrics.   The 64/65 plate E300s am sure are around the same size as the manviros.  22040 was also sent to Hartlepool just last year for a month and only got withdrawn because it was considered to knackered so clearly they can’t be that much of an issue.

(15 Jan 2025, 7:26 pm)col87 wrote Stagecoach management themselves  said Stocktons fleet would move to Hartlepool once they got the electrics.   The 64/65 plate E300s am sure are around the same size as the manviros.  22040 was also sent to Hartlepool just last year for a month and only got withdrawn because it was considered to knackered so clearly they can’t be that much of an issue.

Hartlepool don’t run 60 vehicles so don’t get your hopes up about bigger vehicles arriving, other than some Enviro 400s! I’d imagine they’ll end up with some 200s from Stockton and Sunderland.

Stockton’s first Yutong’s arrived today 73091-094 and 6 of the Sunderland ones have moved to Hartlepool for storage instead.

Mark McCann say 73091,92,93and 73094 were Delivered to Stockton depot today is he right?

(15 Jan 2025, 8:55 pm)tyresmoke wrote Hartlepool don’t run 60 vehicles so don’t get your hopes up about bigger vehicles arriving, other than some Enviro 400s! I’d imagine they’ll end up with some 200s from Stockton and Sunderland.

Stockton’s first Yutong’s arrived today 73091-094 and 6 of the Sunderland ones have moved to Hartlepool for storage instead.

That was quicker than I thought it would be.

I take it, all 20 of Sunderlands have now arrived?

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(15 Jan 2025, 6:36 pm)SV08GVA wrote My current understanding is that when the yutongs are up and running at Sunderland, all the HJS Euro 6 27’s (27728-27734 or whatever, I can’t even remember how many we have) are heading to slaty, and their 271’s will replace them since they are only euro 5 standard. Also understand that Sunderland’s 36’s are heading elsewhere, but not sure what’s replacing them. And lastly 28022-28030 are to be withdrawn and prepped for reading to come and collect them ASAP

Gutted to see more of the gas buses going, shame we couldn't have the 40 gas buses and 20 Electrics, what will they replace at Reading buses?


Hopefully by end of next week, we have more than 4 Yutongs in service....

(15 Jan 2025, 9:50 pm)Michael wrote That was quicker than I thought it would be.

I take it, all 20 of Sunderlands have now arrived?

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Gutted to see more of the gas buses going, shame we couldn't have the 40 gas buses and 20 Electrics, what will they replace at Reading buses?


Hopefully by end of next week, we have more than 4 Yutongs in service....

there's about 6 at the back of the depot not quite sure of the fleet numbers but I know 73062 is definitely their then there 6 waiting at hartlepool so there still waiting on a couple to turn up

(15 Jan 2025, 9:50 pm)Michael wrote That was quicker than I thought it would be.

I take it, all 20 of Sunderlands have now arrived?

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Gutted to see more of the gas buses going, shame we couldn't have the 40 gas buses and 20 Electrics, what will they replace at Reading buses?


Hopefully by end of next week, we have more than 4 Yutongs in service....

I’m not sure what they’re replacing at reading as I’m not familiar with their fleet. It’s a massive shame they are going though, they are by far the best buses to work on. As with any well built bus when something goes wrong it goes really wrong but that only happens once in a blue moon, the gas buses are not much bother now. On inspections you can almost guarantee the same 3 jobs on them then they’re straight back out the door

(16 Jan 2025, 7:13 pm)SV08GVA wrote I’m not sure what they’re replacing at reading as I’m not familiar with their fleet. It’s a massive shame they are going though, they are by far the best buses to work on. As with any well built bus when something goes wrong it goes really wrong but that only happens once in a blue moon, the gas buses are not much bother now. On inspections you can almost guarantee the same 3 jobs on them then they’re straight back out the door

What was the 3 main problems on them?

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Also, just seen this on the Stagecoach UK enthusiasts Fb page, post by Mark Hayes.


Stagecoach Manchester
Period 9


10467 SN65 OAZ Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10484 SN65 OBU Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10485 SN65 OBV Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10486 SN65 OBW Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10535 SN16 OMZ Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10578 SN16 OTS Ashton to Stagecoach North East
10579 SN16 OTU Ashton to Stagecoach North East
10580 SN16 OTV Ashton to Stagecoach North East


I think all of them are now but here's the official list of what's moved, just incase anyone needs to update their own personal fleet lists.

(16 Jan 2025, 8:35 pm)Michael wrote What was the 3 main problems on them?

Not sure on the fitters' perspective but from a driver's, any combination of:
- Engine light
- APS Light
- "Brake Linings Worn"

Neither of which are particularly major issues, as they're all yellow warning lights and don't affect performance, unlike a certain cloud-shaped light that appears on all the diseasels. Only once have I had a red engine light on a gasbus. By comparison, I've had three E400s throw one.

(16 Jan 2025, 9:15 pm)F114TML wrote Not sure on the fitters' perspective but from a driver's, any combination of:
- Engine light
- APS Light
- "Brake Linings Worn"

Neither of which are particularly major issues, as they're all yellow warning lights and don't affect performance, unlike a certain cloud-shaped light that appears on all the diseasels. Only once have I had a red engine light on a gasbus. By comparison, I've had three E400s throw one.

Ah right, I have seen the Engine Malfunction quite a few times.

(15 Jan 2025, 8:55 pm)Glen1974 wrote Mark McCann say 73091,92,93and 73094 were Delivered to Stockton depot today is he right?

If they have then they were the part of the original batch for Slatyford. Slatyford were due 73089-73106 so I wonder what fleet numbers Slatyford will get when we eventually get them.

(16 Jan 2025, 10:35 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote If they have then they were the part of the original batch for Slatyford. Slatyford were due 73089-73106 so I wonder what fleet numbers Slatyford will get when we eventually get them.

According to the 2025 Stagecoach Bus Handbook, the original plan was that Stockton's first 40 were going to be 73132-73171.

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(16 Jan 2025, 8:35 pm)Michael wrote What was the 3 main problems on them?

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Also, just seen this on the  Stagecoach UK enthusiasts Fb page, post by Mark Hayes.


Stagecoach Manchester
Period 9


10467 SN65 OAZ Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10484 SN65 OBU Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10485 SN65 OBV Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10486 SN65 OBW Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10535 SN16 OMZ Hyde Road to Stagecoach North East
10578 SN16 OTS Ashton to Stagecoach North East
10579 SN16 OTU Ashton to Stagecoach North East
10580 SN16 OTV Ashton to Stagecoach North East


I think all of them are now but here's the official list of what's moved, just incase anyone needs to update their own personal fleet lists.

All in service apart from 10486

Slatyford order was Cancelled and the order went to Stockton depot Instead because something do with Slatyford depot that all know I read.

(17 Jan 2025, 2:27 am)Glen1974 wrote Slatyford order was Cancelled and the order went to Stockton depot Instead because something do with Slatyford depot that all know I read.

It’s not cancelled the funding was for Slatyford they can’t really just cancel it. The issue is the depot is too old. To put the chargers in they’d have to remove the roof but they had noise complaints the last time they done that so I believe the plan is to knock the depot down and change it around so the buses are on the other side to where they are now.

Ok mate

(17 Jan 2025, 1:43 am)stagecoachfan wrote According to the 2025 Stagecoach Bus Handbook, the original plan was that Stockton's first 40 were going to be 73132-73171.

Stocktons original plan is 39 buses but now you add on Slatyford’s 18 for a total of 57 but because they’re going fully electric I think they’re getting 62 or 64 so I wonder where the others are coming from.

(17 Jan 2025, 10:11 am)ReDemPTiion wrote Stocktons original plan is 39 buses but now you add on Slatyford’s 18 for a total of 57 but because they’re going fully electric I think they’re getting 62 or 64 so I wonder where the others are coming from.

Stockton are due 40 of their own plus the 18 Slatyford examples - taking it to 58. There's also mention of at least 1 electric decker coming for the school runs.

19432 is now at Sunderland, on the 18.

(17 Jan 2025, 10:41 am)F114TML wrote 19432 is now at Sunderland, on the 18.

27728 is at Slatyford

(17 Jan 2025, 10:41 am)F114TML wrote 19432 is now at Sunderland, on the 18.

are you sure? its not even tracking and i thought they werent allowed to run the megabus advert ones anymore

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(17 Jan 2025, 8:38 am)ReDemPTiion wrote It’s not cancelled the funding was for Slatyford they can’t really just cancel it. The issue is the depot is too old. To put the chargers in they’d have to remove the roof but they had noise complaints the last time they done that so I believe the plan is to knock the depot down and change it around so the buses are on the other side to where they are now.

I can't help but feel like that'll be more noisy.

(17 Jan 2025, 1:31 pm)lewisparker1509 wrote I can't help but feel like that'll be more noisy.

Apparently there’s a way around it by also having the depot face the other way so towards the field out the back engineering where the buses park now and buses where engineering is now but buses parked facing towards the field this way it’s apparently classed as industrial so people can’t complain about the noise. Something I heard anyway.

slightly off topic but does anyone know the 72 at slatyford is allocated a double decker, always looks empty even at peak times whenever i see one.

(17 Jan 2025, 1:31 pm)lewisparker1509 wrote are you sure? its not even tracking and i thought they werent allowed to run the megabus advert ones anymore

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I can't help but feel like that'll be more noisy.

Yeah I saw it multiple times today.

(17 Jan 2025, 7:00 pm)toward6931 wrote slightly off topic but does anyone know the 72 at slatyford is allocated a double decker, always looks empty even at peak times whenever i see one.

interworks with the 115 school bus in the morning and afternoon

(17 Jan 2025, 7:00 pm)toward6931 wrote slightly off topic but does anyone know the 72 at slatyford is allocated a double decker, always looks empty even at peak times whenever i see one.

Does the 115 in the morning then 72’s from 8:59 until 13:35 trip then the 14:50 115 then a few 72’s and two 71’s. I’ll never understand why they chose the 72’s for the scholar work it really doesn’t need a double decker.

(17 Jan 2025, 7:57 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Does the 115 in the morning then 72’s from 8:59 until 13:35 trip then the 14:50 115 then a few 72’s and two 71’s. I’ll never understand why they chose the 72’s for the scholar work it really doesn’t need a double decker.

im assuming it's because theres other busier services available that pretty much go the same way like the 62/63, 71 and 87. like you said, it carrys no one, so it'll be better to use the least used service. and i think the 72s PVR is only one, so while the 115 is running theres no 72.

edit; i stand corrected. just checked bustimes. mostly a PVR of 2 but with a few extra buses joining in here and there

(17 Jan 2025, 7:57 pm)ReDemPTiion wrote Does the 115 in the morning then 72’s from 8:59 until 13:35 trip then the 14:50 115 then a few 72’s and two 71’s. I’ll never understand why they chose the 72’s for the scholar work it really doesn’t need a double decker.

Probably because that corridor can drop down to every twenty minutes at school times without overloading the services. Rather than having more complains here about 62s and 63s going missing to allow deckers to run scholars.

Look at Stockton - the PM school runs works off a 58 board every day (except for the set-up as UTC and Sedgefield have different finishing times on different days of the week).