(13 Jan 2022, 10:46 am)cbma06 wrote If and when service 21 gets the new electric deckers, I wonder if there’s enough of a business case for the angel deckers to go on the 20?


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Hopefully, but if anything it would be the B9's from the Cobalt and Coast, since Deptford already have some B9's with the Streetdecks going to another depot with Streetdecks - could be wrong though...

I would think:

20 - Ex Cobalt B9's
56 - B9's
Streetlites from the 20 replace the Citaro's at Deptford.


Loads of buses will be up for cascade, So it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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(13 Jan 2022, 11:02 am)Adrian wrote If any Northumberland money should be going towards Arriva, it makes you wonder why they didn't have the foresight to develop a joint bid with Transport North East? There was nothing the ZEBRA guidance to state that LTAs could only work with a single operator.

Whilst there's no denying that it is a significant investment from the exchequer, there's also a significant amount of private funding involved... the business case states: "The delivery partners of this project, in particular, the bus operators, will provide £21,860,882 in match funding of the capital  costs for buses and infrastructure. This represents 54% of the overall project cost." The delivery partners, from what I read, being Go North East, Northumberland County Council and Durham County Council:

1) Go North East – Delivery of 49 zero emission buses and associated infrastructure operating out of Consett, Riverside and Percy Main depots.
2) Northumberland County Council – Appointment of a delivery partner and associated onward delivery of 10 zero emission buses and infrastructure on routes from Hexham; and
3) Durham County Council Appointment of a delivery partner and associated onward delivery of 14 zero emission buses and infrastructure to operate on Durham’s two Park and Ride routes.

So the ZEBs used on the Hexham services, and the ones used on the Durham Park & Ride, look to be owned by the respective councils. Possibly with a leasing arrangement as part of the contract?


I think if it was a solely commercial decision, you might get them sticking to one manufacturer, but it looks like these buses will be owned by DCC rather than an operator, and in any case the tender process for the Durham P&R contract is still to take place. I don't know what influence the incoming service provider may have in the choice of new vehicles.

Re: Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) Policy. This is part of the North East Transport Plan (not to be confused with the Enhanced Partnership BSIP), and isn't solely focused at buses: https://www.transportnortheast.gov.uk/wp...t-Plan.pdf

Ah right thanks, there's too many documents haha