(13 Jun 2017, 12:26 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote 2504/5 and 1104 on the back of a lowlander going to bus heaven seen on the A1 near Durham

Wonder where 1104's been since it left Redcar last week then!

(13 Jun 2017, 3:18 pm)Cock Robin wrote Wonder where 1104's been since it left Redcar last week then!

May not have been 1104 but was definitely one of them

(13 Jun 2017, 3:18 pm)Cock Robin wrote Wonder where 1104's been since it left Redcar last week then!

(13 Jun 2017, 3:32 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote May not have been 1104 but was definitely one of them

1104 was amongst the ones I saw last week being towed north on the Tees Flyover.

When is Arriva going to alter the branding on the eco's on the X21?


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(14 Jun 2017, 3:24 pm)cbma06 wrote When is Arriva going to alter the branding on the eco's on the X21?


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I've noticed that a lot of buses seem to be missing branding, or haven't had it altered, recently.

It was mentioned that the X21/X22 services were both going to be branded as MAX, wasn't it? I assumed this was the reason for the EcoCitys not losing the branding for the old 21 service, and parts of missing branding not being replaced. I thought that there was possibly a plan in the works for the vehicle allocation on the 22/23/24, as a lot of these have missing branding too.

Odd that they put an all over ad on the back of a Frequenta 63 as well (1429). Couldn't they have done a Temsa?

(14 Jun 2017, 3:29 pm)Dan wrote I've noticed that a lot of buses seem to be missing branding, or haven't had it altered, recently.

It was mentioned that the X21/X22 services were both going to be branded as MAX, wasn't it? I assumed this was the reason for the EcoCitys not losing the branding for the old 21 service, and parts of missing branding not being replaced. I thought that there was possibly a plan in the works for the vehicle allocation on the 22/23/24, as a lot of these have missing branding too.

Yea, something was mentioned that service X21/X22 be going max sometime this year, but don't know the date, was hoping that the 23 would be going sapphire so the 22/23/24 could interwork at the destination, Shame that the north east won't be getting the revised brand of the max and sapphire.


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(14 Jun 2017, 3:35 pm)cbma06 wrote Yea, something was mentioned that service X21/X22 be going max sometime this year, but don't know the date, was hoping that the 23 would be going sapphire so the 22/23/24 could interwork at the destination, Shame that the north east won't be getting the revised brand of the max and sapphire.


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They will be. Vehicles from now on will be delivered in the new livery, however the new 'brands' don't launch until next year.

(14 Jun 2017, 4:42 pm)mb134 wrote They will be. Vehicles from now on will be delivered in the new livery, however the new 'brands' don't launch until next year.

Such a shame that the 'intermediate' brands appear to have been dropped from the plan and just Sapphire survives now.

(17 Jun 2017, 11:03 am)tyresmoke wrote Such a shame that the 'intermediate' brands appear to have been dropped from the plan and just Sapphire survives now.

What a cock up.

Maybe its just me, but can anybody see a 'MAX' logo here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nebp2/35405270365/in/feed

I'm really glad that this is only going to last a couple of years at the most - the new scheme being introduced couldn't come quick enough and, hopefully, they can do a decent job of it.

(19 Jun 2017, 3:42 pm)S813 FVK wrote Maybe its just me, but can anybody see a 'MAX' logo here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nebp2/35405270365/in/feed

I'm really glad that this is only going to last a couple of years at the most - the new scheme being introduced couldn't come quick enough and, hopefully, they can do a decent job of it.

That looks quite poor. Normally they have a MAX logo above the door or sometimes where the advert board is. The red coverings on the windows and route details / frequency right at the back look out of place. It really is annoying to see the inconsistency across the MAX brand.

North East's marketing team doing a great job as always...

(19 Jun 2017, 5:34 pm)omnicity4659 wrote North East's marketing team doing a great job as always...

Is the north east marketing done down south or is it just customer services that's down south?


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Just a very quick mock-up of what the livery could have looked like if they didn't ruin it. I've used the correct font for the branding too... and not the cheapo font they use now.

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(19 Jun 2017, 5:52 pm)cbma06 wrote Is the north east marketing done down south  or is it just customer services that's down south?


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Doxford Park, literally two rooms down from the national marketing team, of which they don't communicate with...

(19 Jun 2017, 5:59 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Just a very quick mock-up of what the livery could have looked like if they didn't ruin it. I've used the correct font for the branding too... and not the cheapo font they use now.

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Doxford Park, literally two rooms down from the national marketing team, of which they don't communicate with...

I gather this will be the final MAX livery to be developed. Such a shame it is being dropped in favour of the basic new livery, which will appear shortly.

(20 Jun 2017, 9:14 am)tyresmoke wrote I gather this will be the final MAX livery to be developed. Such a shame it is being dropped in favour of the basic new livery, which will appear shortly.

No MAX for the X21/22?

Looks like advertisers get priority!

(20 Jun 2017, 3:50 pm)peter wrote No MAX for the X21/22?

Maybe new MAX for X21/X22

(19 Jun 2017, 3:42 pm)S813 FVK wrote Maybe its just me, but can anybody see a 'MAX' logo here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/nebp2/35405270365/in/feed

I'm really glad that this is only going to last a couple of years at the most - the new scheme being introduced couldn't come quick enough and, hopefully, they can do a decent job of it.

There is the MAX logo on the other side of it though

(20 Jun 2017, 4:27 pm)Cock Robin wrote Looks like advertisers get priority!

Hasn't that always been the case really though? Seems like most of the MAX branded buses have been designed to accommodate advertising boards (Darlington Omnicity's and X93 don't seem to have any though), single deckers only tend to have them on the nearside now owing to the positioning of the emergency exit door on the drivers side, meaning it's normally just a large MAX logo on this side.

(20 Jun 2017, 4:50 pm)Jimmi wrote Hasn't that always been the case really though? Seems like most of the MAX branded buses have been designed to accommodate advertising boards (Darlington Omnicity's and X93 don't seem to have any though), single deckers only tend to have them on the nearside now owing to the positioning of the emergency exit door on the drivers side, meaning it's normally just a large MAX logo on this side.

Wonder why they haven't found a way to put advert boards on the nearside of Temsas?

Does anybody know if we are getting new buses in the north east this year, and what new branding I heard a rumour of sapphires changing to be called premiums, is that it?

(21 Jun 2017, 3:58 pm)OW1762 wrote Does anybody know if we are getting new buses in the north east this year, and what new branding I heard a rumour of sapphires changing to be called premiums, is that it?

Ashington are due some Enviro 400s for the X21/22 to displace some of the current allocation to the 43/44/45. (See here)

I believe Sapphire is still continuing currently, albeit in the new livery, with the new branding being launched next year.

(21 Jun 2017, 4:59 pm)mb134 wrote Ashington are due some Enviro 400s for the X21/22 to displace some of the current allocation to the 43/44/45. (See here)

I believe Sapphire is still continuing currently, albeit in the new livery, with the new branding being launched next year.

Someone is going to have a fun time restitching the new logo onto the top of the seats when the new brand is released!

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Someone is going to have a fun time restitching the new logo onto the top of the seats when the new brand is released!

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(21 Jun 2017, 4:59 pm)mb134 wrote Ashington are due some Enviro 400s for the X21/22 to displace some of the current allocation to the 43/44/45. (See here)

I believe Sapphire is still continuing currently, albeit in the new livery, with the new branding being launched next year.

Anything else coming I would like to see something replace the e200s on the 64, I doubt it would happen but hey wishful thinking 

(21 Jun 2017, 6:55 pm)OW1762 wrote Anything else coming I would like to see something replace the e200s on the 64, I doubt it would happen but hey wishful thinking 

Think the plan is still for the Optare Tempo's coming from Arriva Yorkshire will go on the 64 whilst the E200's will go on the 56/57/57A/86 circuit.

(21 Jun 2017, 5:31 pm)Simmy wrote Someone is going to have a fun time restitching the new logo onto the top of the seats when the new brand is released!

Imagine they'll probably just replace the front of each headrest, which will take nowhere near as long!

(21 Jun 2017, 6:55 pm)OW1762 wrote Anything else coming I would like to see something replace the e200s on the 64, I doubt it would happen but hey wishful thinking 

I think something was mentioned somewhere about those Tempos finally coming up from Yorkshire. 

1762 has been sold to Alpha for scrap now, just to update you on that one.

(21 Jun 2017, 7:06 pm)mb134 wrote Imagine they'll probably just replace the front of each headrest, which will take nowhere near as long!


I think something was mentioned somewhere about those Tempos finally coming up from Yorkshire. 

1762 has been sold to Alpha for scrap now, just to update you on that one.

Ok hope there is 8 of them and the e200s go. And thanks for the update

(21 Jun 2017, 5:31 pm)Simmy wrote Someone is going to have a fun time restitching the new logo onto the top of the seats when the new brand is released!