As the initial article was focused on the South Tyneside changes, it probably didn't need to mention the extension to Murton.

(10 Dec 2017, 9:34 am)S813 FVK wrote As the initial article was focused on the South Tyneside changes, it probably didn't need to mention the extension to Murton.

I hope the merge of services, works for them, i do wonder how they're going to do the 61 though, as its currently a loop service (like where will it end at Murton)

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(09 Dec 2017, 10:06 pm)S813 FVK wrote So would I. I only asked due to the being no mention of a route variation for the X30 etc which may rule Stanley out of the B9TL discussion. It may be a case of them reverting it back to the X30/X31 being standalone with only the 6 and X70/X71 interworking which would allow for the full height deckers.

Here is the full list from the Email:

PB0003954/86 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Gateshead Metro and Gateshead Metro given service number 93 / 94 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/296 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Winlaton Bus Station and Gateshead Interchange given service number 49 / 49A / 49C / 64 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/351 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between South Shields, Market and Newcastle, Market Street given servicenumber 27 / 26 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/364 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Consett Bus Station and Consett Bus Station given service number X70 / X71 / X72 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/557 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Crawcrook, Main Street/Winlaton Bus Station and Wardley, Terminus given service number 69 / 69B effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/558 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Metrocentre Interchange and Wardley Terminus given service number 67 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/650 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Stanley Bus Station and Lanchester Village Green given service number 30 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/654 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between South Stanley/Annfield Plain Fines Park and Metrocentre given service number M6 / M8 / 704 / 836 / M7 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Route and Timetable.

PB0003954/655 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Stanley Bus Station and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number X30 / X31 / X32 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/687 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Gateshead Interchange and Lobley Hill, Cragside Gardend given service number 95 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/772 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Concord and Brady Square/Waterview Park, Mandarin Way givenservice number 85 / 86 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/769 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Durham Bus Station and South Shields, Market given service number 50 / 50A effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/777 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland and Heathway, Parkside givenservice number 60 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/804 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Front Street, Chester Le Street and Ringway, Castletown given service number 36 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/806 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Front Street, Low Moorsley and Heworth Interchange given service number 35 / 35A effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable.

PB0003954/810 GO NORTH EAST LIMITED, 117 QUEEN STREET, GATESHEAD, NE8 2UAOperating between Newbrough, Church Lane and Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station given service number X84 / X85 effective from 28 January 2018. To amend Timetable

Thanks - the chances of it not being accurate is very slim so it was a silly question really.

Hoping the route change for the Metrocentre Mini is to tell them that the M6 goes down Tyne Road and along Avon Road. It would appear that the service is not registered to go that way currently as Durham CC do not acknowledge it on the bus stop liners, and google shows it as going straight down Wear Road.

(10 Dec 2017, 10:07 am)S813 FVK wrote Thanks - the chances of it not being accurate is very slim so it was a silly question really.

Hoping the route change for the Metrocentre Mini is to tell them that the M6 goes down Tyne Road and along Avon Road. It would appear that the service is not registered to go that way currently as Durham CC do not acknowledge it on the bus stop liners, and google shows it as going straight down Wear Road.

Nothing is a silly question these days.

I'm hoping the 36 doesn't change dramatically, as this is only 1 of 2 buses i can get from work on a night....

How do I see the full list please?

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(10 Dec 2017, 10:43 am)Swiny1 wrote How do I see the full list please?

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The full list from the email is above, i missed off the 9, 61 and 88 as we knew those changes.

Ah right ok. Cheers.

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X84/X85 changes have appeared on Durham County Council site:

Changes from: 28/01/18

x84, x85

Newbrough Hexham Newcastle

Minor timetable changes for x84 amended running times between Ovingham & Ovington

Ex​ ​Newbrough/Hexham Mon-Fri, Sat: All departs will be 1min earlier

Ex​ ​Newcastle
Mon-Fri: Departs @08:35 & 09-40-14:40 will terminate @Hexham 2mins later.
Sat: Departs between 08:40-16:40 will terminate @Hexham 2mins later. Departs @17:50 & 18:50 will terminate @Hexham - 1min later.

(09 Dec 2017, 10:06 pm)S813 FVK wrote So would I. I only asked due to the being no mention of a route variation for the X30 etc which may rule Stanley out of the B9TL discussion. It may be a case of them reverting it back to the X30/X31 being standalone with only the 6 and X70/X71 interworking which would allow for the full height deckers.

It is indeed accurate - there are no route changes planned for the X30/X31 services.

(12 Dec 2017, 7:15 am)Dan wrote It is indeed accurate - there are no route changes planned for the X30/X31 services.

So is that you confirming some of the B9's from London will go on the Toonlink services 6, X70 and X71?

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(12 Dec 2017, 11:29 am)Michael wrote So is that you confirming some of the B9's from London will go on the Toonlink services 6, X70 and X71?

I don't think so - moreso confirming that there are no route changes to the X30/X31.

Are there problems with the current ex Brighton deckers on there. Feels like they have only had them 2 minutes

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(12 Dec 2017, 3:50 pm)Swiny1 wrote Are there problems with the current ex Brighton deckers on there. Feels like they have only had them 2 minutes

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I don’t think there are any problems with them as such, its just not ideal having 13/14 year old double deckers on a mainstream service like the Toon Link. 

It must be stressed that this is all still speculation though and it hasn’t actually been confirmed what is happening.

On Traveline, looks like the 26/27 PVR will be 17, meaning only 4 of 5305-09 is needed, 5309 i would imagine will be the spare.


What a clart on for the 26 though, had to split the service up and work it out that way, full route wouldn't appear for some reason.....

(23 Dec 2017, 2:52 pm)Michael wrote On Traveline, looks like the 26/27 PVR will be 17, meaning only 4 of 5305-09 is needed, 5309 i would imagine will be the spare.


What a clart on for the 26 though, had to split the service up and work it out that way, full route wouldn't appear for some reason.....

I reckon you need Santa to bring you an abacus for Christmas like.....PVR will be 18.

(23 Dec 2017, 3:23 pm)citaro5284 wrote I reckon you need Santa to bring you an abacus for Christmas like.....PVR will be 18.

That was the word i was looking for the other day at work haha 

Well it wasn't fault Traveline is so lame when it comes to long routes and doesn't know the location you want, i typed something in and all the options it gave me was everywhere but the north East!, the full route for the 26 doesn't appear........

(23 Dec 2017, 2:52 pm)Michael wrote On Traveline, looks like the 26/27 PVR will be 17, meaning only 4 of 5305-09 is needed, 5309 i would imagine will be the spare.

PVR is 18 as already stated (10 for 26, 8 for 27 with no interworking) but if it was 17, i'd have thought it would have made more sense to have 5305 as a spare to maintain consecutive fleet numbers (5306-5322)

(23 Dec 2017, 3:41 pm)S813 FVK wrote PVR is 18 as already stated (10 for 26, 8 for 27 with no interworking) but if it was 17, i'd have thought it would have made more sense to have 5305 as a spare to maintain consecutive fleet numbers (5306-5322)

Like i said, Traveline isn't showing the full route.... so that's why i was wrong... Traveline is quite shite tbh.

(23 Dec 2017, 3:35 pm)Michael wrote That was the word i was looking for the other day at work haha 

Well it wasn't fault Traveline is so lame when it comes to long routes and doesn't know the location you want, i typed something in and all the options it gave me was everywhere but the north East!, the full route for the 26 doesn't appear........

It must be you Michael.....I just tried on Traveline and Newcastle to South Shields bus only around 8am on Monday 29th January, gave me the 26 0801 from Newcastle, arriving at South Shields at 0928.

(23 Dec 2017, 3:44 pm)citaro5284 wrote It must be you Michael.....I just tried on Traveline and Newcastle to South Shields bus only around 8am on Monday 29th January, gave me the 26 0801 from Newcastle, arriving at South Shields at 0928.

Must be , I tried at 2pm and only the 27 appeared... haha

(23 Dec 2017, 3:42 pm)Michael wrote Like i said, Traveline isn't showing the full route.... so that's why i was wrong... Traveline is quite shite tbh.

I tend to avoid using Traveline. The timetables (PDF & HTML) for the upcoming changes show up as an error for me despite the data being inputted for the journey planner.

When working out PVRs it involves one service replacing another, I tend to use the timetable of the service being replaced as the timings don't usually change that much, if at all. For example, when working out the PVR of the 26 (had to do it separately from the 27), I just used the 88 timings between Jarrow and South Shields, merged it with the Newcastle to Jarrow section of the 27 and went from there. This can obviously then be proved right or wrong by the actual timetable which should, in theory, be released with the rest sometime next week depending on whether the Christmas period pushes it back to the start of January when things return to normal.

Map and Shuttle timetable have appeared for the closure of Timber Beach Road in Sunderland, due to roadworks, linking the new road and existing road together...

What bus will operate it, as the road where its turning at Bristol Street Motors on Alexandra Avenue is very tight.

(24 Dec 2017, 10:52 am)Michael wrote Map and Shuttle timetable have appeared for the closure of Timber Beach Road in Sunderland, due to roadworks, linking the new road and existing road together...

What bus will operate it, as the road where its turning at Bristol Street Motors on Alexandra Avenue is very tight.

One of the directors company cars?
Can't see anything in the current fleet get around that road at Bristol Street Motors... Even a loaned sprinter would struggle, particularly when a car transporter is parked up!

(24 Dec 2017, 10:33 pm)Andreos1 wrote One of the directors company cars?
Can't see anything in the current fleet get around that road at Bristol Street Motors... Even a loaned sprinter would struggle, particularly when a car transporter is parked up!

Could use one of the staff shuttle vans they have.

A change to the DFDS shuttle bus on the 1st January 2018, Journeys from the DFDS Ferry Terminal towards Newcastle are timed to leave 15 minutes later than now.

New timetable here: https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...010118.pdf

(27 Dec 2017, 5:37 pm)Michael wrote A change to the DFDS shuttle bus on the 1st January 2018, Journeys from the DFDS Ferry Terminal towards Newcastle are timed to leave 15 minutes later than now.

New timetable here: https://www.nexus.org.uk/sites/default/f...010118.pdf

PB0003954/216 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: North Shields, Tyne Commission Quay to Newcastle Central Station via Newgate Street
Service number: 327
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 01 Jan 2018



PB0003954/789 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland to Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland via University of Sunderland
Service number: 700 (701)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018


Whats the 700 change?

PB0003954/804 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Front Street, Chester Le Street to Ringway, Castletown via Fence Houses, Houghton Le Spring, Silsworth, Hylton Riverside
Service number: 36
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jan 2018

PB0003954/871 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Regent Metro Centre to Benton Metro
Service number: 900
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 13 Jan 2018

Got an email about the upcoming changes on the 28th January but the link isn't working.

I would copy and paste them but the page would be massive, 
Screenshots will also spam the page

Here's the info on service changs as I'm sure everyone wants to know them.

From 28 January 2018, there will be changes to a number of services. These changes are designed to improve reliability, and to better match where our services run with where people are travelling to.

Details of each of the changes are listed below, along with links to new timetables for each service.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 5
This service will be extended from Jarrow to North Shields via the Tyne Tunnel, replacing service 9 on this section of route.
Service 5 will no longer serve Morrisons in Jarrow.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will use stand B towards South Shields and stand D towards North Shields.
There will be minor changes to the timetable of journeys between Jarrow and South Shields as a consequence of this extended route.

Service 9
This service will continue to run up to every 20 minutes between Jarrow, The Boldons and Sunderland.
The section of route between Jarrow and North Shields will be replaced by service 5
From Jarrow, service 9 will now run to Lukes Lane Estate, via Argyle Street, Lyon Street, Hebburn Town Centre, Hartleyburn Estate and Monkton Lane Estate, replacing this section of services 88/88A.
From Sunderland, the service will be extended to Murton via New Seaham and Dalton Park, replacing service 61, and offering new cross-town connections.
In Jarrow Bus Station, the service will depart from Stand A towards Sunderland and Stand D towards Lukes Lane.
In Park Lane Interchange, the service will depart from Stand F towards Jarrow, and Stand C towards Murton.

Crusader 27 and new Crusader service 26
There will be more journeys to Newcastle, with buses between Newcastle and Jarrow now running up to every 10 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes, and every 15 minutes on Sunday daytimes. Journeys will continue to run every 30 minutes on evenings.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, journeys will run every 20 minutes as service 27 on the current route via Tyne Dock, and every 20 minutes as service 26 via Primrose, South Leam and South Tyneside Hospital, replacing this section of services 88 and 88A.
This offers new direct connections to Newcastle from areas such as York Avenue, Primrose and South Leam.
In Jarrow Bus Station, services 26 and 27 will use stand E towards Newcastle. Service 26 towards South Shields will use stand A, with service 27 towards South Shields using stand C.

Venture 30
A small number of early morning and early evening journeys are retimed.

See It Do It 35 and 36
There will be some changes to the times of some morning, early evening and Saturday journeys to improve reliability.
In Houghton-le-Spring, service 36 towards Chester-le-Street will now stop at stop number 31H05 instead of 31H04. Other stops in Houghton-le-Spring are unchanged.

Whey Aye Five-0 – service 50
There will be minor changes to times to improve reliability.

Drifter 60
There will be minor changes to the times of a small number of journeys to improve reliability.

Black Cats 61
This service will be replaced by extended service 9.
The route of new service 9 will be the same as the current service 61, with buses running between Sunderland and Murton every 20 minutes on Monday-Saturday daytimes and every 30 minutes on evenings and Sundays.

Service 64
Due to low passenger numbers, the journey which departs Gateshead at 6.08pm on weekdays will no longer run.

Service 67
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability.

Service 69
The route of this service will be revised in Winlaton.
It will now run a one-way loop, running from Blaydon to Winlaton direct via Blaydon Bank, then returning from Winlaton to Blaydon on the current route via Parkhead Estate.
Anyone wishing to travel to Parkhead Estate will be able to stay on board the bus at Winlaton without the need to buy another ticket.
Evening and Sunday journeys will continue to run direct on Blaydon Bank in both directions.
There will be some minor changes to the timetable as a consequence of this revised route to improve reliability.

South Tyne 88 & 88A
We know services 88 and 88A have not been as reliable as they should be in recent months. We’ve been working hard to deliver a solution for this, and revised services in South Tyneside will not only improve reliability for all services involved, but also offer a number of new direct connections.
Between Jarrow and South Shields, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by new Crusader service 26.
Between Jarrow and Lukes Lane, service 88 and 88A will be replaced by service 9.
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Loop 93/94
The journey at 3.10pm from Gateshead on weekdays is retimed two minutes earlier.

Service 95
the journey at 5.46pm from Lobley Hill to Gateshead on weekdays will no longer run due to low passenger numbers.

New Service H1
New service H1 will provide direct connections between Hebburn and South Tyneside Hospital between approximately 9.30am and 2.30pm.

Metrocentre Mini M6, M7 & M8
There will be minor changes to the timetable to improve reliability, and offer more journeys in the afternoon from Metrocentre.
There will also be an extra journey on schooldays from Fellside Road (for Whickham School) to Burnopfield
The service will now observe all stops, including at Swalwell Monument and MetrOasis.

Wear Xpress X6 & X7
This service will now depart from Stand A in Sunderland Park Lane Interchange.
There are no other changes to this service.

ToonLink X30 & X31
Weekday journeys at 3.02pm and 3.17pm from Stanley are retimed two minutes earlier.

ToonLink X70 & X71
Weekday journey at 9.10am from Newcastle is retimed to 9am.

Tynedale Express X84 & X85
The are minor changes to the times of journeys to improve reliability.

(03 Jan 2018, 1:35 pm)Michael wrote Got an email about the upcoming changes on the 28th January but the link isn't working.

I would copy and paste them but the page would be massive, 
Screenshots will also spam the page

Go North East have confirmed on Twitter that the email was sent in error, and another should follow shortly which should have everything working.