Can anyone give me a brief list of red-liveried Scania L94/Wright Solars, their allocation and usual duties? (Can't be bothered to trawl through the fleet lists!)

Thanks in advance

(28 Jan 2014, 9:06 pm)RGR756V wrote Can anyone give me a brief list of red-liveried Scania L94/Wright Solars, their allocation and usual duties? (Can't be bothered to trawl through the fleet lists!)

Thanks in advance

Assuming you're just wanting to know about the Deptford ones...

4934-37 are Northern
4942/43/5201-03 are red, with 5204 soon to join them.

1x Solar - 701
3x Solar - 29 (with the remainder of the PVR being made up by Cadets, as pointed out by citaro5284 yesterday)

All others Solars at Deptford are spares, as far as I know.

(28 Jan 2014, 9:04 pm)Davey Bowyer wrote With the showcasing by GNE, does anyone have any idea when they'll be in service?

All 17 are here now and most have being prepared for service, Maybe next week.

Of course with more changes happening this week - including the extra Citaro needed for the Blaydon Racers, we might see the citaro's moving around..

As i said though.. not really sure when they will enter service.

(28 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm)Dan wrote Assuming you're just wanting to know about the Deptford ones...

4934-37 are Northern
4942/43/5201-04 are red, with 5205 soon to join them.

1x Solar - 701
3x Solar - 29 (with the remainder of the PVR being made up by Cadets, as pointed out by citaro5284 yesterday)

All others Solars at Deptford are spares, as far as I know.

Hang on, I thought 5205 was black?

(28 Jan 2014, 9:11 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Hang on, I thought 5205 was black?

Too quick to let me edit it!

(28 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm)Dan wrote 1x Solar - 701
3x Solar - 29 (with the remainder of the PVR being made up by Cadets, as pointed out by citaro5284 yesterday)

All others are spares, as far as I know.

4934-37 are Northern
4942/43/5201-04 are red, with 5205 soon to join them.

I still don't see why the 29 is both cadet and Scania when it could just be Scania or all Cadet.

They could use them on the X7 for temp cover....

(28 Jan 2014, 9:13 pm)Michael wrote I still don't see why the 29 is both cadet and Scania when it could just be Scania or all Cadet.

They could use them on the X7 for temp cover....

That is why you do not do the allocation Michael

(28 Jan 2014, 9:13 pm)Michael wrote I still don't see why the 29 is both cadet and Scania when it could just be Scania or all Cadet.

They could use them on the X7 for temp cover....

I guess it's more appropriate to have midi and single spares, just so that the spare vehicle is as close to the 'usual' vehicle size.

One of the X84/X85s was running the Ten route today.

What with Corbridge bridge being closed I thought it was a diverted X84/X85.

(28 Jan 2014, 9:14 pm)citaro5284 wrote That is why you do not do the allocation Michael

i know, i should never do allocations but it's daft in a way on how the allocation is set out for the 29.

Still think 4 scania's should move to Peterlee for the X7 for temp untill the B10's are replaced...

(28 Jan 2014, 9:16 pm)G-CPTN wrote One of the X84/X85s was running the Ten route today.

What with Corbridge bridge being closed I thought it was a diverted X84/X85.

It was 5230 as seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46190740@N07/12188933703/

(28 Jan 2014, 9:13 pm)Michael wrote I still don't see why the 29 is both cadet and Scania when it could just be Scania or all Cadet.

They could use them on the X7 for temp cover....

If the 29 was cadet it'd require 7, the 38 is cadet and requires 2. That is 9 cadets used daily and some will be need for spares and cadets are the most appropriate cover for MPD's at Peterlee and are also used for spares.

Just out of curosity, are there many B10BLE that havent had internal refurbs, noticed 1 or 2 with the original seating.

Why were these never done, is it because they wont part of a particular brand at that time, all the solars have had refurbs havent they.

Same with the tridents, ive noticed a few are older inside.

So when it comes to withdrawning certain buses in the future, will this be taken into consideration after the age of the bus perhaps.[/quote]

(28 Jan 2014, 4:11 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote 3802 now has a front LED display like 3801, the side and rear dests remain flipdots.

So why can't 8306 not get a new display it's a joke

(28 Jan 2014, 11:04 pm)Arcticrossy92 wrote Just out of curosity, are there many B10BLE that havent had internal refurbs, noticed 1 or 2 with the original seating.

Why were these never done, is it because they wont part of a particular brand at that time, all the solars have had refurbs havent they.

Same with the tridents, ive noticed a few are older inside.

So when it comes to withdrawning certain buses in the future, will this be taken into consideration after the age of the bus perhaps.

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I don't know which ones have had the internal referb, but I believe there isn't many tridents/Renowns that haven't. I do believe all Solars have though, weren't the Fast Cats some of the last ones done? I don't really know why certain ones have and why others aren't.

To confirm, 5347 will be out in service on X66s today. It is currently at Newcastle on the 11A.

Anyone know where 5250/53/54/73 will be going? I doubt they will be going to Stanley for the X30/X31 because that requires four vehicles. Any suggestions anyone?

Northern B7 just passed me NIS on the mill inn bank; usually a bus passes NIS which works onto 60's hope someone hasn't allocated that to the 60 or it may have an accident at Dawdon!

Just looking on the GNE site at the blurb about the new depot.

The infographic indicates 160 buses will be stored there. It also states that 145 will be washed and refuelled every night.

http://www.simplygo.com/news/new-super-d...rce=social&utm_medium=hootsuite&utm_campaign=new_

Anyone any idea why there aren't 160 buses washed and fuelled each day?
Obviously not each and every vehicle will be out every day, but curious as to why they make the statement about the 145 lucky ones who are fed and bathed each night.

(29 Jan 2014, 9:29 am)andreos1 wrote Anyone any idea why there aren't 160 buses washed and fuelled each day?
Obviously not each and every vehicle will be out every day, but curious as to why they make the statement about the 145 lucky ones who are fed and bathed each night.

Exactly that reason, not every bus is out, so why wash a bus which has not been in service

(29 Jan 2014, 9:49 am)citaro5284 wrote Exactly that reason, not every bus is out, so why wash a bus which has not been in service

But we both know there is no way in this world, that each and every day only 145 vehicles will come back to the depot.
Spares will be out to replace a failed vehicle, vehicles will be used in transferring staff to Gateshead Interchange, whilst others will head out on a road test.
Chances are, that in addition to the allocated 145 vehicles, those vehicles I mentioned above, will also be needing a top up or scrub - hence the question.

Not having a pop, but it seems a very specific, and an essentially incorrect and irrelevant statement for them to make.

(29 Jan 2014, 10:06 am)andreos1 wrote But we both know there is no way in this world, that each and every day only 145 vehicles will come back to the depot.
Spares will be out to replace a failed vehicle, vehicles will be used in transferring staff to Gateshead Interchange, whilst others will head out on a road test.
Chances are, that in addition to the allocated 145 vehicles, those vehicles I mentioned above, will also be needing a top up or scrub - hence the question.

Not having a pop, but it seems a very specific, and an essentially incorrect and irrelevant statement for them to make.

I'd agree. It'd read better with "145" replaced with "All". Although 163,000 miles a week is also quite specific. :p Nevertheless though, the statistics are impressive. Was Sunderland Road or Winlation previously a VTS? Or is this something additionally being brought to the new depot?

Are buses washed on a nightly basis at present? I had thought they were done at all depots at the end of service, along with refuelling, cleaning, etc.

If the statement had said: "Every bus gets washed every day," then your question would have been, "So what about the ones that haven't been out that day, or are in the workshop? Seems a very specific, and an essentially incorrect and irrelevant statement for them to make."

No pleasing some people...

(29 Jan 2014, 10:18 am)eezypeazy wrote If the statement had said: "Every bus gets washed every day," then your question would have been, "So what about the ones that haven't been out that day, or are in the workshop? Seems a very specific, and an essentially incorrect and irrelevant statement for them to make."

No pleasing some people...

I disagree. The majority of people reading that infographic (non-enthusiasts) would assume each and every bus is out every day. Therefore the expectation would be that every bus is washed and refuelled every night.

(29 Jan 2014, 10:18 am)eezypeazy wrote If the statement had said: "Every bus gets washed every day," then your question would have been, "So what about the ones that haven't been out that day, or are in the workshop? Seems a very specific, and an essentially incorrect and irrelevant statement for them to make."

No pleasing some people...

Remember that time we were discussing QCS and I went to get a bath?
You said it was too much information.

Sometimes I get a shower, sometimes a bath and a shower - it tends to vary.

It is the same with meal times.
It varies on a day to day basis, depending on the situation or circumstances.

A bit like the amount of vehicles washed in the new depot or as aureolin mentioned, the mileage the vehicles operate.

As I said to Citaro, this isn't me having a pop. It is me having a point of view (and as a certain fella often used to say), doing it in an open forum.

Quite a sweeping statement there mind eezypeazy, telling me what I would have said...

(29 Jan 2014, 10:15 am)aureolin wrote I'd agree. It'd read better with "145" replaced with "All". Although 163,000 miles a week is also quite specific. :p Nevertheless though, the statistics are impressive. Was Sunderland Road or Winlation previously a VTS? Or is this something additionally being brought to the new depot?

Are buses washed on a nightly basis at present? I had thought they were done at all depots at the end of service, along with refuelling, cleaning, etc.

I believe vehicles were sent to Sandy Lane for testing at one point, although not sure if this was a recent, long term or permanent thing as Saltmeadows has (happy to stand corrected), testing facilities.

(29 Jan 2014, 10:31 am)andreos1 wrote Remember that time we were discussing QCS and I went to get a bath?
You said it was too much information.

Sometimes I get a shower, sometimes a bath and a shower - it tends to vary...

It took me months to get your personal hygiene arrangements out of my mind... Now you've gone and put that image back in there again!

(Goes off to lie down in a darkened room with a damp flannel pressed to forehead...)

(29 Jan 2014, 10:38 am)eezypeazy wrote It took me months to get your personal hygiene arrangements out of my mind... Now you've gone and put that image back in there again!

(Goes off to lie down in a darkened room with a damp flannel pressed to forehead...)

Its ok, I am clean, just like 145 of the GNE fleet will be once they have moved to the new depot.
Imagine if we got washed as often as the remaining 15 vehicles?
Pooey!

But I agree, maybe it is too much information telling the world how many times we get washed.
Particularly if it varies on a day to day basis.

526 NA52 AWJ and 530 NA52 AWP have been Sold to Western Greyhound

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33747326@N05/12201790273/

(28 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm)Dan wrote Assuming you're just wanting to know about the Deptford ones...

4934-37 are Northern
4942/43/5201-03 are red, with 5204 soon to join them.

1x Solar - 701
3x Solar - 29 (with the remainder of the PVR being made up by Cadets, as pointed out by citaro5284 yesterday)

All others Solars at Deptford are spares, as far as I know.

Just while we are on Topic of the 29, would it be worth swapping the 3 Solars with 3 Merits from The Riverside Depot to then have the 29 operated by pretty much the same Vehicle Type.