(03 Sep 2023, 6:19 pm)mb134 wrote Assuming 1539/9 are kept in reserve pending the X16, I feel like it may have been a more sensible decision to transfer 1538/9 down to Durham and keep the newer pair in Northumbria for the demanding and busy Morpeth express corridor. It would also have ensured relative feature parity with the other vehicles on the corridor, rather than 2 vehicles which haven't been repainted since new and are lacking WiFi, charging, or e-leather seating.

In fairness it's probably more about keeping the batch together. The routes they're generally used on in Durham, the 6, 22, 23 and 24 are just the same in terms of spec.

I'm happy to be corrected but I believe that all of the Pulsar's at Durham are Sapphire now other than 1407. They move around so much I lose track.

(03 Sep 2023, 6:32 pm)Storx wrote In fairness it's probably more about keeping the batch together. The routes they're generally used on in Durham, the 6, 22, 23 and 24 are just the same in terms of spec.

I'm happy to be corrected but I believe that all of the Pulsar's at Durham are Sapphire now other than 1407. They move around so much I lose track.

Aren't the Pulsars moving down there replacing E200s though, so in theory going onto the 64?

Durham are also gaining 1462 and 1497 which aren't Sapphire. 1407 is leaving Durham now.

(03 Sep 2023, 6:38 pm)mb134 wrote Aren't the Pulsars moving down there replacing E200s though, so in theory going onto the 64?

Durham are also gaining 1462 and 1497 which aren't Sapphire. 1407 is leaving Durham now.

Not too sure with Durham nowadays, I've completely lost track on what's supposed to be on what as it just seems like first out first route allocations as there's not much sense to it.

Personally if I was Arriva I'd seriously be looking at using 1512 - 1533 on the likes of the 1/5 (Darlington), X4 (Redcar), 5/5A (Stockton) and move the Streetlite's off them as they're blatently not fit for purpose on them. They're effectively never used at Darlington and Stockton already pretty much on what they're meant to. They're wasted on the 22/23/24 imo.

(03 Sep 2023, 7:08 pm)Storx wrote Not too sure with Durham nowadays, I've completely lost track on what's supposed to be on what as it just seems like first out first route allocations as there's not much sense to it.

Personally if I was Arriva I'd seriously be looking at using 1512 - 1533 on the likes of the 1/5 (Darlington), X4 (Redcar), 5/5A (Stockton) and move the Streetlite's off them as they're blatently not fit for purpose on them. They're effectively never used at Darlington and Stockton already pretty much on what they're meant to. They're wasted on the 22/23/24 imo.

Stockton shouldn't be running Streetlites on Service 5, that isn't the official allocation anymore. Service 15 is the 'home' for them I think, but they are never allocated correctly.

Agree that Service 1 and 5 in Darlington needs bigger buses than the short SL's that they have now. I know they are getting full size Streetlites from Newcastle this weekend, but that will only cover the Gas Buses.

(03 Sep 2023, 7:35 pm)RobinHood wrote Agree that Service 1 and 5 in Darlington needs bigger buses than the short SL's that they have now. I know they are getting full size Streetlites from Newcastle this weekend, but that will only cover the Gas Buses.

There seems to be a need for larger vehicles on quite a few of the Darlington routes now. The last few times I've used the 1, 7, and X66 they've all had loads that have pretty much filled a single decker. I've only used the X67 once since the changes and, while it only carried around 15, it was a Saturday lunchtime run from Darlington so probably isn't the sort of trip to base anything on.

(03 Sep 2023, 7:35 pm)RobinHood wrote Stockton shouldn't be running Streetlites on Service 5, that isn't the official allocation anymore. Service 15 is the 'home' for them I think, but they are never allocated correctly.

Agree that Service 1 and 5 in Darlington needs bigger buses than the short SL's that they have now. I know they are getting full size Streetlites from Newcastle this weekend, but that will only cover the Gas Buses.

Never realised they were officially off the 5, not sure they're ever on the 15 mind, that seems to be pretty much Pulsar operated.

I've completely lost track what's meant to be on what down there. It just seems to be whatever goes lately. The OCD in me really wants to move stuff around and clean allocations up though. One thing to give credit with GNE is they keep batches together whereas Arriva is allover the place.

(31 Aug 2023, 4:17 pm)Storx wrote Assuming some of the boards on the 57/57A are getting upgraded to full singles? If I'm right there's only 2853/2854/2859 at Ashington which could run it since 2852 is technically a spare.

Also interesting to note on there unless something is missing, it seems the solution to the problems to Redcar is to send two buses to Wakefield...?

Redcar should get 1431 as Stockton didn't lose a thing as per

(04 Sep 2023, 8:21 pm)megansmith wrote Redcar should get 1431 as Stockton didn't lose a thing as per

Stockton gain 1431 due to a PVR increase - something Redcar didn’t have!

(04 Sep 2023, 8:21 pm)megansmith wrote Redcar should get 1431 as Stockton didn't lose a thing as per

They lost 1923 and 1534 IIRC.

1431 and 1414 (eventually) will end up at Stockton.

Redcar need to drop more vehicles, as even with the movements this weekend, they are still around 20% spare.

(05 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm)RobinHood wrote They lost 1923 and 1534 IIRC.

1431 and 1414 (eventually) will end up at Stockton.

Redcar need to drop more vehicles, as even with the movements this weekend, they are still around 20% spare.

nothing wrong with 1534 so no replacement reqiredv

(06 Sep 2023, 1:22 pm)megansmith wrote nothing wrong with 1534 so no replacement reqiredv

Unfortunately Arriva think differently to you if they are withdrawing it for scrap. There will be a reason.

(04 Sep 2023, 8:29 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Stockton gain 1431 due to a PVR increase - something Redcar didn’t have!

Redcar’s PVR increases by two next weekend once the college buses start, believe one sits in a 63 board but otherwise there’ll be two more as they do 3 of them.


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(06 Sep 2023, 4:24 pm)RobinHood wrote Unfortunately Arriva think differently to you if they are withdrawing it for scrap. There will be a reason.

I liked the SB200 Centros, ever since they first came up here the first time round. Does the differing bodywork compared to the Pulsar fleet make them too non-standard, even if the chassis, engine etc are similar?

tyresmoke

Redcar’s PVR increases by two next weekend once the college buses start, believe one sits in a 63 board but otherwise there’ll be two more as they do 3 of them.


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SHALL BE INTRESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS THEN

(06 Sep 2023, 8:53 pm)solsburian wrote I liked the SB200 Centros, ever since they first came up here the first time round. Does the differing bodywork compared to the Pulsar fleet make them too non-standard, even if the chassis, engine etc are similar?

I would expect that to be the case, yes. Non-standard glass sizes, body panels and potentially electrical systems just creates another variation that no longer needs to be accounted for. Not to mention, they are 15 years old now, slightly older than the Pulsar 2's, so logically one of the next vehicles to naturally be withdrawn.

(06 Sep 2023, 1:22 pm)megansmith wrote nothing wrong with 1534 so no replacement reqiredv

Still going strong this afternoon, passed it on a 5 just outside Guisborough [emoji28]


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(07 Sep 2023, 6:05 pm)tyresmoke wrote Still going strong this afternoon, passed it on a 5 just outside Guisborough [emoji28]


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Stockton may have had some issues today. 
Saw a 15 branded Pulsar and a StreetLite on the X12.

(07 Sep 2023, 7:51 pm)Andreos1 wrote Stockton may have had some issues today. 
Saw a 15 branded Pulsar and a StreetLite on the X12.

Yeah the branded stuff goes anywhere at Stockton these days… though they actually managed 4 of the 9 on the 15 today!


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1431 was sat in Darlington faverdale yard this morning VOR

A bus is bus doesn't matter if it is branded aslong as it turns up

(20 Sep 2023, 2:53 pm)ross13 wrote 1431 was sat in Darlington faverdale yard this morning VOR

Won’t be back for a while, but supposed to be transferring to Stockton sometime

(21 Sep 2023, 10:32 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote Won’t be back for a while, but supposed to be transferring to Stockton sometime

Wasn't VOR yesterday was sat in main service line but wasn't used

(22 Sep 2023, 10:32 am)ross13 wrote Wasn't VOR yesterday was sat in main service line but wasn't used

If it wasn’t VOR and useable then surely it would have been used, despite supposedly being transferred out some time, and we wouldn’t have had to loan 1538/1539 from Ashington

(21 Sep 2023, 10:32 pm)Stuartphin1639 wrote Won’t be back for a while, but supposed to be transferring to Stockton sometime

change of plain Stockton aren't getting 1431 1414 went instead 1431 is now desired to Redcar Whitby

(24 Sep 2023, 7:56 am)megansmith wrote change of plain Stockton aren't getting 1431 1414 went instead 1431 is now desired to Redcar Whitby

1431 is VOR with chassis defects.
1414 transferred instead as Stockton needed extra vehicle for PVR increase.
1409 will be the next Pulsar to leave Darlington's fleet once 1610 is back from engine repairs. Other than 1538/9 which will of course return to Ashington at the end of October for the X16.
Redcar won't be getting any transfers - they've got more than enough vehicles for their PVR, plus let's not forget that in 5 or so weeks time, the summer timetables end and they'll be plenty of spare vehicles at Redcar then.....

(24 Sep 2023, 8:04 am)Kuyoyo wrote 1431 is VOR with chassis defects.
1414 transferred instead as Stockton needed extra vehicle for PVR increase.
1409 will be the next Pulsar to leave Darlington's fleet once 1610 is back from engine repairs. Other than 1538/9 which will of course return to Ashington at the end of October for the X16.
Redcar won't be getting any transfers - they've got more than enough vehicles for their PVR, plus let's not forget that in 5 or so weeks time, the summer timetables end and they'll be plenty of spare vehicles at Redcar then.....

i know Stockton aren't getting 1534 that's permeant based at Redcar  as its been conform by many drivers at Redcar

(24 Sep 2023, 8:09 am)megansmith wrote i know Stockton aren't getting 1534 that's permeant based at Redcar  as its been conform by many drivers at Redcar

1534 will be withdrawn before the end of the year. It is certainly not a permanent fixture in Redcar.

(24 Sep 2023, 8:15 am)RobinHood wrote 1534 will be withdrawn before the end of the year. It is certainly not a permanent fixture in Redcar.

incorrect

(24 Sep 2023, 8:34 am)megansmith wrote incorrect

1534 is a reserve fleet vehicle - it's not a permeant member of the fleet at Redcar. As it's the oldest single decker in the fleet and its sisters have both already gone for scrap, the chances of it lasting much longer is very very slim.

(24 Sep 2023, 8:34 am)megansmith wrote incorrect

Stop thinking u know everything