Noticed that some changes have been registered today including the X30/X70 group of services

Why does this registration show the X30 twice? Must be an admin oversight I suppose.

(Yesterday, 7:00 pm)L469 YVK wrote Noticed that some changes have been registered today including the X30/X70 group of services

Why does this registration show the X30 twice? Must be an admin oversight I suppose.

Happens randomly so doesn't mean anything

PB0003954/1469
New GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X70 (X70) Consett Newcastle

Start point: Consett
Finish point: Newcastle
Via Leadgate, Medomsley, Flint Hill, Burnopfield, Sunniside, Lobley Hill, Team Valley North, Gateshead.

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PB0003954/1221
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 1 (301, 301A) Whitley Bay Metrocentre

PB0003954/1204
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 16 (16, 16A, 16B) Shotley Bridge Hospital Durham

PB0003954/1209
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 47 (47) Consett Newcastle

PB0003954/1211
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 78 (78) Sunderland Consett

PB0003954/1436
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X72 (X72) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/86
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 93,94 (93, 94) Gateshead Gateshead

PB0003954/1251
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 6 (6) Lanchester Newcastle

PB0003954/365
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X15 (X15, X5) Durham Castleside

PB0003954/367
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X45 (X45) Newcastle Consett

PB0003954/1437
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X73 (X73) Stanley Newcastle

PB0003954/822
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED N21 (N21) Newcastle Durham Howlands

PB0003954/351
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 27 (27) South Shields Newcastle

PB0003954/1288
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED V5 (V5) The Dene Crookhall

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X30 (X31, X30, X32) Stanley Newcastle

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Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED X71 (X71, X71A) Newcastle Consett

301A... was 302 unavailable?

(Yesterday, 9:36 pm)F114TML wrote 301A... was 302 unavailable?

It'll be just that one bus a day from Sunniside, I guess. I don't really understand why it runs either considering the bus has to run from the Metrocentre (where the 1 starts anyway) and run dead to Sunniside.

I'm sure there's some obscure reason.

(Yesterday, 9:52 pm)Storx wrote It'll be just that one bus a day from Sunniside, I guess. I don't really understand why it runs either considering the bus has to run from the Metrocentre (where the 1 starts anyway) and run dead to Sunniside.

I'm sure there's some obscure reason.

Smells like a contract of some form.

(Yesterday, 9:52 pm)Storx wrote It'll be just that one bus a day from Sunniside, I guess. I don't really understand why it runs either considering the bus has to run from the Metrocentre (where the 1 starts anyway) and run dead to Sunniside.

I'm sure there's some obscure reason.

It's the exact same journey that existed on the 97 when it was that section of the route. Why would they cancel it. Ive been in town that early in the morning to see it come in and people do actually use it and get off. Why would they cut it. What just cause you dont understand why it runs

(Yesterday, 11:06 pm)Aaron21 wrote It's the exact same journey that existed on the 97 when it was that section of the route. Why would they cancel it. Ive been in town that early in the morning to see it come in and people do actually use it and get off. Why would they cut it. What just cause you dont understand why it runs

Who said cancel it?

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(Yesterday, 10:55 pm)F114TML wrote Smells like a contract of some form.

Yeah that's my thoughts aswell, just don't really see it's purpose though, it's a weird one mind. I could understand if the depot was at Sunniside but it isn't.

(Today, 6:07 am)Storx wrote Who said cancel it?

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Yeah that's my thoughts aswell, just don't really see it's purpose though, it's a weird one mind. I could understand if the depot was at Sunniside but it isn't.

Unless it's an early early run to give Sunniside residents an early service before the 6 & X30's/X70's start

(Today, 6:17 am)L469 YVK wrote Unless it's an early early run to give Sunniside residents an early service before the 6 & X30's/X70's start

Yeah possibly, who knows. It's a bit of an odd one though whatever it is.

(Today, 6:54 am)Storx wrote Yeah possibly, who knows. It's a bit of an odd one though whatever it is.

Why are u question it now. It's the exact same thing the 97 did. I can't see how this is confusing you at all

(11 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote Why are u question it now. It's the exact same thing the 97 did. I can't see how this is confusing you at all

Are you just trying to be obtuse for the sake of it here?

Whether it's the 1, 97, 301A, 60, 21 or whatever number is irrelevant. The discussion is why there's one random bus in the morning starting at Sunniside when the route doesn't go anywhere near it and the bus has to run from outside the Metrocentre anyway so there's no operational benefits doing so. I'm sure the section from the Metrocentre to Whickham would appreciate an extra bus in the morning and it's literally not using any resources to do so.

(10 hours ago)Storx wrote Are you just trying to be obtuse for the sake of it here?

Whether it's the 1, 97, 301A, 60, 21 or whatever number is irrelevant. The discussion is why there's one random bus in the morning starting at Sunniside when the route doesn't go anywhere near it and the bus has to run from outside the Metrocentre anyway so there's no operational benefits doing so. I'm sure the section from the Metrocentre to Whickham would appreciate an extra bus in the morning and it's literally not using any resources to do so.

No i ain't. Im just confused on why you are debating this being a journey. If gne didn't see fit to run it it would be withdrawn. Clearly there is a demand for this service. As stated above maybe its to use for other services before they start. 

Maybe someone at that part of the route it starts at gets on there and they need that service. 

What would a service that time in the morning starting from Metrocentre benefit. Think about it

(9 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote No i ain't. Im just confused on why you are debating this being a journey. If gne didn't see fit to run it it would be withdrawn. Clearly there is a demand for this service. As stated above maybe its to use for other services before they start. 

Maybe someone at that part of the route it starts at gets on there and they need that service. 

What would a service that time in the morning starting from Metrocentre benefit. Think about it

Tbh I have a feeling it's a tendered run, like someone else said.

There's definitely money going to the route as it's on the freedom requests for subsidies, so wouldn't be surprised if that's it.

More than likely just a legacy route as there's something in the back of my head saying it used to go there a very very long time ago and the one board a day has just existed ever since. 

There's quite a few around. The 83A, being another - https://bustimes.org/services/83a-hewort...-le-street which I thought was finally on the chop but still seems to exist. Really don't get that route as it does a route which doesn't exist and there's no return journey either and the 4 and 8 are running at the times it runs aswell.

(Yesterday, 9:52 pm)Storx wrote It'll be just that one bus a day from Sunniside, I guess. I don't really understand why it runs either considering the bus has to run from the Metrocentre (where the 1 starts anyway) and run dead to Sunniside.

I'm sure there's some obscure reason.

I'm sure that it's to give an early bus to the North End of Team Valley for staff starting at 0600 eg Postal Delivery staff

(8 hours ago)Storx wrote There's quite a few around. The 83A, being another - https://bustimes.org/services/83a-hewort...-le-street which I thought was finally on the chop but still seems to exist. Really don't get that route as it does a route which doesn't exist and there's no return journey either and the 4 and 8 are running at the times it runs aswell.

83A is withdrawn. Gct for some reason just haven't took it off the route. Was withdrawn in May changes. I did the 83A once under Percy Main as needed to be in Durham early and there was a fair few people on. But only till the Galleries. Didn't stop once after that till i got off at Chester and I was the only one left on it

(8 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote 83A is withdrawn. Gct for some reason just haven't took it off the route. Was withdrawn in May changes. I did the 83A once under Percy Main as needed to be in Durham early and there was a fair few people on. But only till the Galleries. Didn't stop once after that till i got off at Chester and I was the only one left on it

I used to get that from Heworth to the Galleries, but the fact is the 4 showed up like 2 minutes after and was pretty much just as quick. It's just the 83A was the first bus that got there after I got off my Metro, same with the other people who got it.

(10 hours ago)Storx wrote Are you just trying to be obtuse for the sake of it here?

Whether it's the 1, 97, 301A, 60, 21 or whatever number is irrelevant. The discussion is why there's one random bus in the morning starting at Sunniside when the route doesn't go anywhere near it and the bus has to run from outside the Metrocentre anyway so there's no operational benefits doing so. I'm sure the section from the Metrocentre to Whickham would appreciate an extra bus in the morning and it's literally not using any resources to do so.

could the bus already say operate a service to Team Valley then commutes over to start at Sunniside anyone checked the current run to see what the bus does first  before the start at sunniside ?

(8 hours ago)busmanT wrote I'm sure that it's to give an early bus to the North End of Team Valley for staff starting at 0600 eg Postal Delivery staff

Aye that would make sense, guessing it is subsidised then?

(8 hours ago)Aaron21 wrote 83A is withdrawn. Gct for some reason just haven't took it off the route. Was withdrawn in May changes. I did the 83A once under Percy Main as needed to be in Durham early and there was a fair few people on. But only till the Galleries. Didn't stop once after that till i got off at Chester and I was the only one left on it

Aye that's fair, thought it was gone but just seen the timetable still there. Thought it might have been a last minute change in mind.