73096 enter service today replace E300 22574 want RTA yesterday.

(02 Jun 2025, 11:45 pm)col87 wrote Simple solution really is get more double deckers, I think some might become surplus soon as I think Manchester could be losing services and order maybe 20 odd next year 10 for Newcastle and 10 for Stockton. That means some of the Enviro 300s could go to Hartlepool to replace the enviro 200s, most of which need scrapping as they are completely unreliable, Hartlepool could maybe even get some older enviro 400s ( double deckers will be needed for service 7 for at least two weeks over the summer holidays for the Carnival which does see nearly every service 7 completely full ) as well as service 1 which is often full from both Middlesbrough and Hartlepool as it is.

There's no services being lost in Manchester. A lot of the problems are due to the problems with the Southport electrication being delayed for over 3 year, at least, and thus having to hold onto the Diesel Deckers there. 

They did get some out by swapping them with the hybrids but there's only so far you can go.

Do believe one depot is due some, but that's delayed indefinitily aswell (Middleton).

(03 Jun 2025, 2:21 pm)Storx wrote There's no services being lost in Manchester. A lot of the problems are due to the problems with the Southport electrication being delayed for over 3 year, at least, and thus having to hold onto the Diesel Deckers there. 

They did get some out by swapping them with the hybrids but there's only so far you can go.

Do believe one depot is due some, but that's delayed indefinitily aswell (Middleton).

my mistake then I thought they were doing some franchising.

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(03 Jun 2025, 3:33 pm)col87 wrote my mistake then I thought they were doing some franchising.

The franchising has been done.

(03 Jun 2025, 3:33 pm)col87 wrote my mistake then I thought they were doing some franchising.

Yeah as someone above has said it's all done now.

btw. there was an order of 150 electric deckers which were meant to convert Stockport into a full electric depot but because of delays it's been pushed back to 2028 and 100 of them were sent across to Metroline instead.

It's never been confirmed but I'd assume it was meant to displace some of their older Enviro's out and it's just not happened so they're down a lot of buses and putting one plus two together, it's no doubt the ones which aren't on schools and they're not rushing to repaint (ie. 65/16 Plate E400MMC's)

(03 Jun 2025, 4:03 pm)Scottish city buses wrote 73054
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At Hartlepool depot

Are this buses on loan to stagecoach Stockton.

(03 Jun 2025, 4:03 pm)Scottish city buses wrote 73054
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At Hartlepool depot

I went past the depot on the 1 earlier and never seen any Yutongs just the withdrawn Man’s

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They is one thing I am wondering about this charging points at Stockton are they just for the Yutongs or can they be used for any company. Am just thinking if in future Stagecoach decided to replace some of them with Mercedes or Volvo or ADL would the charges work for or would they have to replace the charges ?

Thank mate

73096 has replaced 22890 which has succumbed to its electrical gremlins.

The 73053/4/6 are expected to be joined by 73055 and are expected to operate out of Stockton long term before being replaced and displaced to their original home - this is to cover the 1/2, X40/41 and RP1 that weren’t originally planned on being operated beyond April 2025

(05 Jun 2025, 5:12 am)Teessider2014 wrote 73096 has replaced 22890 which has succumbed to its electrical gremlins.

The 73053/4/6 are expected to be joined by 73055 and are expected to operate out of Stockton long term before being replaced and displaced to their original home - this is to cover the 1/2, X40/41 and RP1 that weren’t originally planned on being operated beyond April 2025

73096 replaced 22574 not 22890

(06 Jun 2025, 1:28 am)busesofthenortheast wrote 73096 replaced 22574 not 22890

Maybe don't question someone who works for Stagecoach - 22890 has been off the road since it broke down on Marton Road on the 24th May, and is now off fleet. With 73096 entering service, this takes 22890's place in the fleet. 22574 was involved in said RTC on Monday but for now it remains 'on fleet'.

(06 Jun 2025, 9:12 am)Kuyoyo wrote Maybe don't question someone who works for Stagecoach - 22890 has been off the road since it broke down on Marton Road on the 24th May, and is now off fleet. With 73096 entering service, this takes 22890's place in the fleet. 22574 was involved in said RTC on Monday but for now it remains 'on fleet'.

I’m not questioning anyone, I thought 73096 entered service to replace 22574 when it had the RTC, I didn’t know 22890 broke down

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(05 Jun 2025, 5:12 am)Teessider2014 wrote 73096 has replaced 22890 which has succumbed to its electrical gremlins.

The 73053/4/6 are expected to be joined by 73055 and are expected to operate out of Stockton long term before being replaced and displaced to their original home - this is to cover the 1/2, X40/41 and RP1 that weren’t originally planned on being operated beyond April 2025

I honestly thought 73096 replaced 22574, I didn’t know that 22890 broke down on Marton Road now I see why you said 73096 replaced 22890 my apologies

(06 Jun 2025, 12:53 pm)busesofthenortheast wrote I’m not questioning anyone, I thought 73096 entered service to replace 22574 when it had the RTC, I didn’t know 22890 broke down

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I honestly thought 73096 replaced 22574, I didn’t know that 22890 broke down on Marton Road now I see why you said 73096 replaced 22890 my apologies

22574 wasn’t damaged in the RTA but is now having service work done and awaiting parts

(06 Jun 2025, 1:28 am)busesofthenortheast wrote 73096 replaced 22574 not 22890

(08 Jun 2025, 6:24 pm)Teessider2014 wrote 22574 wasn’t damaged in the RTA but is now having service work done and awaiting parts

Oh I didn’t know 22574 wasn’t damaged, tbf I wasn’t sure if was damaged or not when I saw the image of it

Has 80000 entered service yet at Stockton?

Was hoping it would come down to Sunderland too.

(09 Jun 2025, 5:21 am)Michael wrote Has 80000 entered service yet at Stockton?

Was hoping it would come down to Sunderland too.

Not yet

(09 Jun 2025, 5:21 am)Michael wrote Has 80000 entered service yet at Stockton?

Was hoping it would come down to Sunderland too.

Probably won’t go out until the rest of the electrics are out and 19678 19680 and 19681 are gone.

Speaking about the electric project, whats the set back? 2nd week of June and no formal date of the full introduction? Also what would be the removal process of all the buses at Stockton currently that are Diesel powered, so an overnight swap and drop or in the day, whats your thoughts?

22890 has been fixed by Hartlepool engineering - electrical gremlin apparently has been sorted - it has subsequently returned to service at Stockton today!

(09 Jun 2025, 6:39 pm)Teessider2014 wrote 22890 has been fixed by Hartlepool engineering - electrical gremlin apparently has been sorted - it has subsequently returned to service at Stockton today!

Well that’s interesting then considering all the talk that they won’t fit over the pits, wonder if they any chance of Hartlepool keeping it,  ok might have needed but shows they is a workaround though.

(09 Jun 2025, 6:39 pm)Teessider2014 wrote 22890 has been fixed by Hartlepool engineering - electrical gremlin apparently has been sorted - it has subsequently returned to service at Stockton today!

Well that’s interesting then considering all the talk that they won’t fit over the pits, wonder if they any chance of Hartlepool keeping it,  ok might have needed but shows they is a workaround though.

(09 Jun 2025, 8:22 pm)col87 wrote Well that’s interesting then considering all the talk that they won’t fit over the pits, wonder if they any chance of Hartlepool keeping it,  ok might have needed but shows they is a workaround though.

Hartlepool fitter fixed it at Stockton depot - it went out on the 101 and a 12 yesterday afternoon. All Hartlepool will be getting from Stockton come the electric switch-on I understand will be the E200s and one of the E400s.

(09 Jun 2025, 8:34 pm)col87 wrote Well that’s interesting then considering all the talk that they won’t fit over the pits, wonder if they any chance of Hartlepool keeping it,  ok might have needed but shows they is a workaround though.

Not really, it was an unknown switch in the cab - can easily work out in the yard on that - changing an engine without a pit in the open is a totally different ball game

(09 Jun 2025, 6:39 pm)Scottish city buses wrote Speaking about the electric project, whats the set back? 2nd week of June and no formal date of the full introduction? Also what would be the removal process of all the buses at Stockton currently that are Diesel powered, so an overnight swap and drop or in the day, whats your thoughts?

I’ve been told by the operations manager of Stockton (I am a driver at Slatyford) that there was some required to be done outside the depot which was out of their control. They’ve been told they can have their full roll out Monday 23rd June as long as nothing changes.

I was on the A1 about 14:15 heading to the Metrocentre and when crossing over the Tyne there was a "Bee Network" E400MMC being towed along. Looked like it was heading for Slatyford depot?

(10 Jun 2025, 3:01 pm)logidoodah wrote I was on the A1 about 14:15 heading to the Metrocentre and when crossing over the Tyne there was a "Bee Network" E400MMC being towed along. Looked like it was heading for Slatyford depot?

After asking about myself, it's probably going the Throntons garage in Ashington. Apparently Bee Network are their biggest customers. Find it strange myself, mind you.

(10 Jun 2025, 3:01 pm)logidoodah wrote I was on the A1 about 14:15 heading to the Metrocentre and when crossing over the Tyne there was a "Bee Network" E400MMC being towed along. Looked like it was heading for Slatyford depot?

After asking about myself, it's probably going the Throntons garage in Ashington. Apparently Bee Network are their biggest customers. Find it strange myself, mind you.

(09 Jun 2025, 6:39 pm)Teessider2014 wrote 22890 has been fixed by Hartlepool engineering - electrical gremlin apparently has been sorted - it has subsequently returned to service at Stockton today!

Well that’s interesting then considering all the talk that they won’t fit over the pits, wonder if they any chance of Hartlepool keeping it,  ok might have needed but shows they is a workaround though.

73097 has enter service today at Stockton.