(18 Jul 2025, 6:44 am)Storx wrote The 47 currently is 6 and the X5/X15 4 isn't it? I haven't fully checked but believe that's what they are.

The 47 is increasing to 7x from Monday 21/07.

The X5/X15 if merged into the Langley Park - Durham part of the X20 would need a PVR increase of 1x making it 5x.

(18 Jul 2025, 7:38 am)L469 YVK wrote
The 47 is increasing to 7x from Monday 21/07.

The X5/X15 if merged into the Langley Park - Durham part of the X20 would need a PVR increase of 1x making it 5x.

You sure on that?

I'm just looking at the timetable and the PVR still seems to be 6 to me as the round trip is just under 3 hours, they just shunt the times back by 5 minutes midday to give it a little bit more layover ie. 9.07am out returns back to Consett at 12:03pm

Just seen the Yutong with the new livery at the metrocentre. Looks smart.

(18 Jul 2025, 8:52 am)Storx wrote You sure on that?

I'm just looking at the timetable and the PVR still seems to be 6 to me as the round trip is just under 3 hours, they just shunt the times back by 5 minutes midday to give it a little bit more layover ie. 9.07am out returns back to Consett at 12:03pm

Ahhhh I see now! Think that Friday feeling os kicking in after a long week.

Good spot!

(18 Jul 2025, 7:38 am)L469 YVK wrote The 47 is increasing to 7x from Monday 21/07.

The X5/X15 if merged into the Langley Park - Durham part of the X20 would need a PVR increase of 1x making it 5x.

Isn't this page for repaints into fleet livery!

Corporate open top E400 has had Pride roadstripes and other decals applied for Northern Pride.
Seen heading into the city earlier.


https://flic.kr/p/2rhxcEB

I wonder when the new electrics arrive, are they going to be in the same livery as 8807

(19 Jul 2025, 9:42 am)citaro5284 wrote I wonder when the new electrics arrive, are they going to be in the same livery as 8807

Apparently the X66 electric ADLs will be the same livery , as will be the 58 but the electric Angels will have a livery of there own,

Be great if that red stripe was unique for each bus.

I'll not give them ideas.

Am i the only one who doesn’t understand why the electric fleet are in a widely different livery to the fleet livery? I get making a song and dance about electric buses, but that couldn’t have been done by changing a road-stripe to green? Changing the rear to a different colour with something to do with no emissions along the top band? Like i said i get the whole making it known whatever, but when they’re slashing brands left right and centre i just don’t really get keeping this one? At first voltra was for saltwell park, then quacity, now it just looks like a side company like voyager but based around electric buses. It looks like they’ve tried to clean up a branding mess with more mess. Maybe I’m being negative but I just don’t understand repainting them all into a completely different livery.

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(19 Jul 2025, 2:37 pm)Retro Nero wrote Apparently the X66 electric ADLs will be the same livery , as will be the 58 but the electric Angels will have a livery of there own,

Does this mean the loss of the metrocentre brand?

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(19 Jul 2025, 2:37 pm)Retro Nero wrote Apparently the X66 electric ADLs will be the same livery , as will be the 58 but the electric Angels will have a livery of there own,

Does this mean the loss of the metrocentre brand?

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Am i the only one who doesn’t understand why the electric fleet are in a widely different livery to the fleet livery? I get making a song and dance about electric buses, but that couldn’t have been done by changing a road-stripe to green? Changing the rear to a different colour with something to do with no emissions along the top band? Like i said i get the whole making it known whatever, but when they’re slashing brands left right and centre i just don’t really get keeping this one? At first voltra was for saltwell park, then quacity, now it just looks like a side company like voyager but based around electric buses. It looks like they’ve tried to clean up a branding mess with more mess. Maybe I’m being negative but I just don’t understand repainting them all into a completely different livery.

(19 Jul 2025, 5:26 pm)F114TML wrote Be great if that red stripe was unique for each bus.

Why?

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(20 Jul 2025, 2:10 am)ALavery wrote Am i the only one who doesn’t understand why the electric fleet are in a widely different livery to the fleet livery? I get making a song and dance about electric buses, but that couldn’t have been done by changing a road-stripe to green? Changing the rear to a different colour with something to do with no emissions along the top band? 

Nope, I don’t understand it either. 
Why wouldn’t you want your electric buses to be instantly recognisable as GNE (corporate livery).
Instead it’s like they want the electrics to look like a different company.

After using the Flixbus N10 from Glasgow to Newcastle yesterday evening which was operated by a Yutong GT12 which were absolutely superb for those of you haven't been on one, I think Go North East should order some for the X10.

(20 Jul 2025, 8:32 pm)Malarkey wrote After using the Flixbus N10 from Glasgow to Newcastle yesterday evening which was operated by a Yutong GT12 which were absolutely superb for those of you haven't been on one, I think Go North East should order some for the X10.

Can't see that happening anytime soon given all the complaints about accessibility when the Interdecks were introduced a few year back (plus Arriva's X66 when it went coach operated quite a while back).

Cascading may potentially be a bit easier now since Go-Ahead acquired the Procters Group, but even still...

5448 now in Fleet livery.

(20 Jul 2025, 10:41 pm)Jimmi wrote Can't see that happening anytime soon given all the complaints about accessibility when the Interdecks were introduced a few year back (plus Arriva's X66 when it went coach operated quite a while back).

Cascading may potentially be a bit easier now since Go-Ahead acquired the Procters Group, but even still...

Interdecks weren't the best in terms of accessibility however they were the vehicle type needed on the X10, shame they didn't last longer.

Tell what would be a good idea is to split the operations of the X10 between Proctors and Go North East as it would reduce dead mileage for journey's that start/end in Middlesbrough. 

I also think accessibility on Coaches has improved in recent years and there options there to be explored.

(20 Jul 2025, 10:41 pm)Jimmi wrote Can't see that happening anytime soon given all the complaints about accessibility when the Interdecks were introduced a few year back (plus Arriva's X66 when it went coach operated quite a while back).

Cascading may potentially be a bit easier now since Go-Ahead acquired the Procters Group, but even still...

To be fair, the interdecks are a whole different beast to normal coaches. I know there were similar complaints in the North of Scotland and they've used coaches forever up there.

It's the stairs which are horribly steep and the fact it's not straight which the less able really struggle with. 

The X66, is a bad service for them though, considering it's a normal service for a fair chunk of the service at both ends.

(22 Jul 2025, 8:09 pm)Storx wrote To be fair, the interdecks are a whole different beast to normal coaches. I know there were similar complaints in the North of Scotland and they've used coaches forever up there.

It's the stairs which are horribly steep and the fact it's not straight which the less able really struggle with. 

The X66, is a bad service for them though, considering it's a normal service for a fair chunk of the service at both ends.

GNE are in a catch 22 situation.

Use suitable single deck coaches and face capacity issues - even with the X9 restored.

Or continue operating using standard double deck vehicles and suffer reliability issues.

12M B8L low bridge MCV EvoSeti deckers are a good halfway house IMO and could have useful service life beyond the X10.

(22 Jul 2025, 9:27 pm)L469 YVK wrote GNE are in a catch 22 situation.

Use suitable single deck coaches and face capacity issues - even with the X9 restored.

Or continue operating using standard double deck vehicles and suffer reliability issues.

12M B8L low bridge MCV EvoSeti deckers are a good halfway house IMO and could have useful service life beyond the X10.

The "catch 22" that they themselves created in order to reduce milage and drivers required. Don't get me wrong but I think it was one of the "temporary" measures back in 2022/23?

This is not an allocations thread but I will just say (again) that Plaxton Panther LEs are the way forward -->

Whilst having (I think) 69 seats or something similar they could be trialled on the 60 mins freq but would enable the route to be popular and not squashed like sardines with people sitting on the stairs along the long stretches of A19.

A bonus is they fit in Eldon Sq and perfectly merge the bus/coach aspects together as in the ease of travel and comfort for long distances. This would be a good upgrade to 30 mins from this point as it would make people want to travel in style but with bus accessibility.

I really don't see why not...

(22 Jul 2025, 10:34 pm)logidoodah wrote The "catch 22" that they themselves created in order to reduce milage and drivers required. Don't get me wrong but I think it was one of the "temporary" measures back in 2022/23?

This is not an allocations thread but I will just say (again) that Plaxton Panther LEs are the way forward -->

Whilst having (I think) 69 seats or something similar they could be trialled on the 60 mins freq but would enable the route to be popular and not squashed like sardines with people sitting on the stairs along the long stretches of A19.

A bonus is they fit in Eldon Sq and perfectly merge the bus/coach aspects together as in the ease of travel and comfort for long distances. This would be a good upgrade to 30 mins from this point as it would make people want to travel in style but with bus accessibility.

I really don't see why not...

The Panther LE can only seat 53 passengers. Even with bringing the X9 back, could be risky if both routes end up at full capacity and need deckers. Double deck coaches would be too much of a step up in terms of cost and logistics.

The B8L EvoSeti (same engine as the Panther LE) would be the best of both worlds and would have useful service life after the X10.

Graphite livery is no more!!!!!
673-679 all in corporate now..

5444 & 5445 & 656 now in Fleet livery at PM

8801 & 8809 (the only red Varient) currently at Thorntons going into new Voltra Livery. 

Anyone who why its being done at Thorntons?

(08 Aug 2025, 9:16 am)WestDurhamSwift wrote 8801 & 8809 (the only red Varient) currently at Thorntons going into new Voltra Livery. 

Anyone who why its being done at Thorntons?

Would probably have to stick them on a low loader lorry to get them down to Bus & Coach World (Blackburn) or Read Commercials (Accrington) as I doubt they get there and back on a full charge and would likely cost more.