(13 Oct 2025, 7:16 pm)PH - BQA wrote I see them around 07:15-07:40, but even the ones I see outside my usual commute look to be the same. Appreciate there will likely be a couple later into the peak which might do better, but one or two trips a day with a decent loading surely cannot justify a 20 minute frequency for much longer.

The X47 has nowhere near enough time in it in the peaks, and is just about right during the day - but any delays and the entire thing is a shambles. The Sunday timetable may as well not exist, they run in pairs and neither of them are at the time they should be. The X47 does carry far larger passenger loadings into/out of Great Park than I ever remember the Q3 taking, the same cannot be said for the 49 though. 

A walk across the bridge and an Arriva express from Brunton Lane tends to be quicker than both the Q3 and X47, time of day dependent for the latter. It's what I do after a match, as Stagecoach seem to be playing a game of allocating the smallest available vehicle, while Arriva run multiple dupes. Given the amount of people who get off with me at Brunton Lane and start the walk over the A1, I'd say it's a fairly common thing.

It's at different times during the day around Civic Centre that I normally see them. I'd say normally an average of around 10 on them when I see them. 

From what I've heard, the Great Park groups might be trying to get their complaints heard again about the x47. Kingston Park is an absolute nightmare, I do understand the complaints.

Feel free to move this to the suggestions thread.

But could there not be a Great North Road partnership agreement put in place to sort the Great Park issues out? Yes a PVR increase, but would actually work for passengers

- 43 every 15 mins as now
- 44 every 15 mins as now
- 45 every 15 mins as now
- NEW 46 every 15 mins Great Park to Haymarket via Gosforth operated by GNE

Nice clean 5 minute frequency from Brunton Park to Newcastle, all using electric vehicles. Gosforth issue sorted out and something else could pick up the Quayside / Eastern Part of the Q3.

35 could be put back through Jesmond.

(14 Oct 2025, 3:25 pm)L469 YVK wrote Feel free to move this to the suggestions thread.

But could there not be a Great North Road partnership agreement put in place to sort the Great Park issues out? Yes a PVR increase, but would actually work for passengers

- 43 every 15 mins as now
- 44 every 15 mins as now
- 45 every 15 mins as now
- NEW 46 every 15 mins Great Park to Haymarket via Gosforth operated by GNE

Nice clean 5 minute frequency from Brunton Park to Newcastle, all using electric vehicles. Gosforth issue sorted out and something else could pick up the Quayside / Eastern Part of the Q3.

35 could be put back through Jesmond.

Arriva aren't going to back that and why should they?

There's competition there for a reason, if GoNorthEast wants to try and make something from a corridor then that's on them but you can't expect them to be given it on a plate. 

Either way if there was going to be any partnership then Stagecoach should have it anyway, with the 30/31/43/44/45/46 giving 24 buses an hour combined from Gosforth and the 46/X47 giving 8 BPH combined from the Great Park.

(13 Oct 2025, 7:24 pm)Shrek wrote It's at different times during the day around Civic Centre that I normally see them. I'd say normally an average of around 10 on them when I see them. 

From what I've heard, the Great Park groups might be trying to get their complaints heard again about the x47. Kingston Park is an absolute nightmare, I do understand the complaints.

Kingston Park is horrendous, all the routes that go through there for Stagecoach, 6, X47 and X78 (yes the X77&79 go through but not often) they all end up really late. What doesn’t help is Aldi putting a store in there, Newcastle City Councils resurfacing of the junction at Tudor Way which now the lights don’t work as intended takes 2+ minutes to cycle through to Tudor Way where the X47 comes from and doesn’t stay green long enough. The council don’t seem to care either, and with it getting close to Christmas I can see it getting worse.

Oh and btw Lidl are trying to get into Kingston Park as well so that’s just going to make things 10x worse!!

In an ideal world, the solution for Great Park would be every 30 minutes via Kingston Park and every 30 minutes via Great North Road, but that would require Great Park and GNE cooperating....

(10 Nov 2025, 3:15 pm)Kimlfixit wrote In an ideal world, the solution for Great Park would be every 30 minutes via Kingston Park and every 30 minutes via Great North Road, but that would require Great Park and GNE cooperating....

Not sure it would personally, that's just two infrequent services. I'd imagine the vast majority of people would rather have the X47 every 15 minutes over that. It just appears to be a very minor vocal minority moaning otherwise.

In an ideal world, you'd have a very frequent bus service from the Regent Centre to Great Park and people would change on the Metro imo. There's no need for buses from everywhere to Newcastle.

Unless you want to be in the Haymarket area, it would be quicker or neglible in time difference, at best, since you can get further into the city at Monument / Central

(10 Nov 2025, 3:24 pm)Storx wrote Not sure it would personally, that's just two infrequent services. I'd imagine the vast majority of people would rather have the X47 every 15 minutes over that. It just appears to be a very minor vocal minority moaning otherwise.

In an ideal world, you'd have a very frequent bus service from the Regent Centre to Great Park and people would change on the Metro imo. There's no need for buses from everywhere to Newcastle.

Unless you want to be in the Haymarket area, it would be quicker or neglible in time difference, at best, since you can get further into the city at Monument / Central

Most of the match day going folk I know get the X47 to Kingston and switch to the Metro - far far quicker. As well as Kingston Park, the X47 gets stuck on Cowgate and the Central Motorway (plus that awful new roundabout at the RVI)

(10 Nov 2025, 4:37 pm)Ambassador wrote Most of the match day going folk I know get the X47 to Kingston and switch to the Metro - far far quicker. As well as Kingston Park, the X47 gets stuck on Cowgate and the Central Motorway (plus that awful new roundabout at the RVI)

Don't blame them either, I'd probably do the same, as long as I had a ticket which I could do both, at least.

Truthfully, the X47 probably shouldn't really exist in an ideal world either and should be integrations from the Metro station aswell. Like it arguably serves nothing that other services do - even known people do use it but that's just the North East's broken transport network.

Would solve the traffic problems aswell as there's no traffic hot spots between Kingston Park and the Great Park (or Regent Centre) if you wanted to run it through as one service.

(10 Nov 2025, 3:24 pm)Storx wrote Not sure it would personally, that's just two infrequent services. I'd imagine the vast majority of people would rather have the X47 every 15 minutes over that. It just appears to be a very minor vocal minority moaning otherwise.

In an ideal world, you'd have a very frequent bus service from the Regent Centre to Great Park and people would change on the Metro imo. There's no need for buses from everywhere to Newcastle.

Unless you want to be in the Haymarket area, it would be quicker or neglible in time difference, at best, since you can get further into the city at Monument / Central

Get your tin hat on!!

(11 Nov 2025, 7:40 am)Rob44 wrote Get your tin hat on!!

Aye no arguments there. The ironic part, is the same people moaning no doubt get the bus to Eldon Square then walk all the way to Central or something and are totally ignorant to the fact that the 10 minute walk in Newcastle, is a hell of a lot longer than the short change, especially when the traffic at Kingston Park, Cowgate, the RVI etc all come into it aswell.

Storx wroteAye no arguments there. The ironic part, is the same people moaning no doubt get the bus to Eldon Square then walk all the way to Central or something and are totally ignorant to the fact that the 10 minute walk in Newcastle, is a hell of a lot longer than the short change, especially when the traffic at Kingston Park, Cowgate, the RVI etc all come into it aswell.

This has got nothing to do with new orders or electric buses please keep this to service changes section

Do we have an estimated delivery date for some of this stock

It's coming up to 4 years next February when the blue Electroliner was trialled on the 21

(11 Nov 2025, 10:54 am)Ambassador wrote Do we have an estimated delivery date for some of this stock

It's coming up to 4 years next February when the blue Electroliner was trialled on the 21

Presumably part of the 1,200 Go Ahead Group vehicle order - after East Yorkshire who's are starting being delivered?